Friend makes cue offer...

Ken,

Nothing wrong with what you did and congrats on your new purchase. People will come to you because they know you have money and will buy cues if the price is right - they set the price. No deception there at all. People sometimes need quick cash and you gave him more than a pawn shop would, what's the big deal?

It's different if someone pays you for an estimate, low-balling them and then buying it yourself for profit is double-dipping in my mind and should be frowned upon. When in doubt, send all cues to Kevin Brown to post on eBay :).

I once bought a plainjane zebra wood Tad for $400 because a guy I knew needed money and asked me if I were interested. It had thinner shafts, but in good condition. I drove to a 2nd pool hall that was on the way home and a friend of mine wanted the cue and offered me $800. We had done some deals so I would rather have him buy it today then make a few hundred more and delay the sale. So in 3 hours (had to get the money) I doubled my $400. In 5 weeks he sold it for $1600 and doubled his. That was fine with me, in fact I love it when people make money of a cue they bought from me so they will come to me 1st when they need something.

So I feel I helped two people out, the original guy needing money and the guy that made $800 on our deal. All that & I made $400 in 3 hours. Everyone felt good about the deal. Once I sell something at a price I'm willing to sell it at, I don't care what the buyer does with the cue, it's now theirs...I hope they make money.

Good luck with yours, Ken.

Dave
 
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My Uncle Joe bought a mint 1917 Ford Model T off of an elderly lady near where he lived. Her husband had bought it new, then passed away, and since she didn't drive had kept it locked in a shed under a tarp for over 60 years. Uncle Joe gave her $750.00 for it.
He put in new oil, filled it with gas, and cranked it up. When it started on the fourth try, Joe climbed into the drivers seat, put it in gear, and took off down the woman's driveway.
Just as he was pulling out onto the highway, a semi came over the hill and smashed headon into the old Ford, killing Uncle Joe.
I don't know if he and that old woman were friends, or what. :wink:
 
I meet people halfway . . .

John,

I always meet people halfway or a little bit more. Good people think I am a very good person. People with a lack of redeeming social values think I am worse than them. Funny thing, from their perspective everyone is right. It is no real surprise that we bang heads yet again. You are more than a little shy on redeeming social values.

Hu
(I see you still duck and run concerning the so called threat or threats I made)


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You're doing good Hu. I am sure that this amazing fighting spirit you have served you well when you were snapping off the "predators". And I am certain you distributed the money you took from them to the many helpless victims of said "predators".

You are certainly the epitome of polite so I agree with you that perhaps this shouldn't continue. After all it's incredibly polite to essentially call a man a thief because he was the recipient of some good fortune in the pool room. I am sure that Ken regrets his purchase and is on the way to pay more for the cue right now due to your admonition.

We are all better people thanks to your moral guidance, polite way of reprimanding us, and tenacious, never-give-up attitude.

And you're probably right, it's possible that I heeded your general call to donate to the flower fund and you didn't specifically solicit me. Still the offer stands to assist you any time you need it for such a good and noble cause.

If so, then my apologies for mixing up the order of communication.
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ShootingArts said:
John,

I always meet people halfway or a little bit more. Good people think I am a very good person. People with a lack of redeeming social values think I am worse than them. Funny thing, from their perspective everyone is right. It is no real surprise that we bang heads yet again. You are more than a little shy on redeeming social values.

Hu
(I see you still duck and run concerning the so called threat or threats I made)
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Yes I have heard that you are very saintly. People around you are closer to heaven just by proximity.

I suspect that very few people and certainly not me could ever measure up to your moral standards. You're absolutely right I have no value to society compared to you. Your value is inestimable. Thank you for hanging out with degenerates like me and allowing me to read your message of compassion and empathy. It's wonderful to see that the same high standards of morality that you claim to bring to transactions is also evident in your communications here.

I appreciate your admonitions and resolve to work becoming someone who is worth something to society. Can you give me some advice on where to start? I looked for your autobiograpghy online as I have always been told it's best to study those whom you wish to emulate and I can't fathom being a better beacon of morality and social good than you are. Unfortunately there weren't any books I could find on St. Hu, Robin Hood of the Poolroom, patron saint of car dealers everywhere. So if you would be so kind as to tell me where I can purchase a copy I will pay the book store double for it in your honor.
 
You know how everyone has their "dream" golf foursome or "dream" dinner?? Usually its with celebrity's or a passed away parent or grandparent. Well I have a new dream dinner. ITs JB, HU, and Roy Mallot:thumbup:

good night.
 
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lawman888 said:
You know how everyone has their "dream" golf foursome or "dream" dinner?? Usually its with celebrity's or a passed away parent or grandparent. Well I have a new dream dinner. ITs JB, HU, and Roy Mallot:thumbup:

good night.
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I was wondering how long it would take you you to get a jab in at Roy. The thing is that if you had communicated with Roy with even a tenth of the coherence you have shown here during your time on AZ then you would know him to be a fair and accommodating guy. As well he has a heart of gold for people he respects. You are not on that list and never will be. Sucks to be you and want something and have someone have the stones to tell you your money is no good. That still hurts you doesn't it?

Funny how so many top collectors seem to get along great with Roy if he is such a bad guy.

No one really cares about your opinion either. Nice try with the sucker punch though. You sound like you are still in agony over the verbal whipping Roy gave you.

Next time don't come at a high end dealer like he's the clerk at 7-11 and you will get a different reception.
 
JB Cases said:
I was wondering how long it would take you you to get a jab in at Roy. The thing is that if you had communicated with Roy with even a tenth of the coherence you have shown here during your time on AZ then you would know him to be a fair and accommodating guy. As well he has a heart of gold for people he respects. You are not on that list and never will be. Sucks to be you and want something and have someone have the stones to tell you your money is no good. That still hurts you doesn't it?

Funny how so many top collectors seem to get along great with Roy if he is such a bad guy.

No one really cares about your opinion either. Nice try with the sucker punch though. You sound like you are still in agony over the verbal whipping Roy gave you.

Next time don't come at a high end dealer like he's the clerk at 7-11 and you will get a different reception.
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I just called a psychiatrist. I told him I was not on Roy Mallot's list of people he respects. He told me I might as well go on a coke and whiskey binge because my life had no meaning.
I then told him JB told me that no one cares about my opinion, the shrink noticed I was still angry over the verbal whipping from Roy, and advised me to go into hiding.

Well, to all those I have bought cues and cases from in the past few weeks, I will be in seclusion till I get over the verbal whippings of JB and Roy.

Sorry:boring2:
 
Tramp Steamer said:
My Uncle Joe bought a mint 1917 Ford Model T off of an elderly lady near where he lived. Her husband had bought it new, then passed away, and since she didn't drive had kept it locked in a shed under a tarp for over 60 years. Uncle Joe gave her $750.00 for it.
He put in new oil, filled it with gas, and cranked it up. When it started on the fourth try, Joe climbed into the drivers seat, put it in gear, and took off down the woman's driveway.
Just as he was pulling out onto the highway, a semi came over the hill and smashed headon into the old Ford, killing Uncle Joe.
I don't know if he and that old woman were friends, or what. :wink:
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Nice moment of humor in this action packed Hu vs JB 15 rounder.

I am not sure who is ahead on points it looks like it is going to be a close one here folks.
 
lawman888 said:
I just called a psychiatrist. I told him I was not on Roy Mallot's list of people he respects. He told me I might as well go on a coke and whiskey binge because my life had no meaning.
I then told him JB told me that no one cares about my opinion, the shrink noticed I was still angry over the verbal whipping from Roy, and advised me to go into hiding.

Well, to all those I have bought cues and cases from in the past few weeks, I will be in seclusion till I get over the verbal whippings of JB and Roy.

Sorry:boring2:
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Well, whatever your thing is apparently something is still bugging you because you dragged Roy's name into this discussion.

Glad you are spending money. I am sure that whoever is getting it appreciates the business.

I guarantee you that no matter how much money you have you won't be getting a JB Case from me ever.

Bet on that.
 
JB Cases said:
Well, whatever your thing is apparently something is still bugging you because you dragged Roy's name into this discussion.

Glad you are spending money. I am sure that whoever is getting it appreciates the business.

I guarantee you that no matter how much money you have you won't be getting a JB Case from me ever.

Bet on that.
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LOL Thank God:thumbup:
 
JB Cases said:
Well, whatever your thing is apparently something is still bugging you because you dragged Roy's name into this discussion.

Glad you are spending money. I am sure that whoever is getting it appreciates the business.

I guarantee you that no matter how much money you have you won't be getting a JB Case from me ever.

Bet on that.
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Haha.... this guy! I would probably take that as a blessing in disguise......
 
I got no dog in this hunt.....but I will reflect on a couple of observations I have made during the interchange here.

1. If your gonna post up accusations of inappropriate behavior you should have proof such behavior did indeed take place.

2. I regard both of the warring parties as knowledgeable and intelligent in matters of pool.

3. One or both of you should simply ignore the other. Respect for another is usually shown by the attention one pays to his/her opinions. Since neither of you seem to regard the other as worthy of respect, it baffles me why you choose to continue this tirade......Dan
 
I always carry cash.....people know it and when they are hurting for money, they come see me and I get some great deals. Bought a couple old Joss West cues and a Richard Black really cheap.

Today I was at the store getting gas and a guy was paying for his 12.00 worth of gas in .50 cent peices, and 2 1928 Silver Peace Dollars......I told him I would buy them and he said sure.....Does anyone know what just 1 1928 Silver Dollar is worth ;)
 
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I got no dog in this hunt.....but I will reflect on a couple of observations I have made during the interchange here.

1. If your gonna post up accusations of inappropriate behavior you should have proof such behavior did indeed take place.
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I didn't say that his behavior was inappropriate. I said that the threats he made were understood by me. And since he made that threat I took it to mean that he has no intention of being friendly unless I comply. Now, knowing that I normally would not want to further incur his wrath but the moral judgments he decided to pass on me in this thread were too much.

Hu knows exactly what I meant when I referenced his threat. I understood it and acquiesced in that thread in the name of trying to preserve peace.

2. I regard both of the warring parties as knowledgeable and intelligent in matters of pool.
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We are not warring. Hu is the moral compass of this forum. He has set the tone for others to live by and has made it clear to me at least that he will wreck anyone's thread if they disagree with him. Sadly I see myself also doing that and am trying to get better. I have never threatened anyone with doing it as a deliberate act though.

3. One or both of you should simply ignore the other. Respect for another is usually shown by the attention one pays to his/her opinions. Since neither of you seem to regard the other as worthy of respect, it baffles me why you choose to continue this tirade......Dan
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Oh I have a lot of respect for cyberbullies. They can make your life hell if they choose to. In this thread alone I have been told by Hu that I have no value to society, that I am tantamount to a thief and have no idea what a "friend" is.

Cyberbullies like Hu have nothing to lose by perpetrating terroristic posting practices. People like him can and do insult a person however they wish to knowing that they are unlikely to face any consequences. I certainly respect the power of the troll and while the best thing is to ignore them it's not easy when they focus their attention on you.

Anyway, you're ultimately right. Feeding them with replies and acknowledgment only furthers the problem.

As for being knowledgeable about pool........well anyone could lurk here for a while and then post the type of content that Hu posts and they would seem knowledgeable about pool as well. I will reserve the right to be skeptical of Hu's actual playing experience until I find anyone that he ever played who can back up anything he has ever said about fleecing the hustlers among other things.

Just my opinion of course. That and 99cts will get you a cup of coffee.
 
several killers, at least one convicted murderer, and a serial child molester

JB Cases said:
Yes I have heard that you are very saintly. People around you are closer to heaven just by proximity.
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John,

Among my friends over the years I include several suspected killers, two convicted murderers, and someone that later turned out to be a serial child molester. The friendship with the last one ended the moment he told me he was indeed guilty of the crime. However, I note these people's less than sterling behavior in the world for a reason. Every one of them had a better understanding of the words friend and friendship than you do. Now you have admitted that every claim you have made about me is BS, no coming to you asking you for funds, no threats made against you, all in your own mind. We will add all of your claims about threats against your thread gross distortions now, by moving this BS to your thread and letting those that still have a supply of popcorn read for themselves.

Every conflict you have ever had with anyone on these forums, and there have been many, is now open to reinterpretation. We now know if you say you were set upon by four huge thugs and savagely beaten and kicked for hours it may actually mean that a four year old girl gave you a dirty look.

(the post that started this whizzing competition)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=2431045#post2431045

For those disinclined to change threads here is the text. As anyone can see, few people would whine about such a post. Most would consider it constructive. Not "our" John!

Neil,

Sounds like you have CTE working properly. Regardless of how well anything works we still rely on our own vision and bodies to line up things properly and when the difference in making and missing a shot can be measured in a few thousandths of an inch in where we hit the object ball, the eyes and body, the devices we aim with, just aren't that accurate.

Something else I pointed out a long long time ago, a 95% accurate system is a monster increase if a person is only an 80% shooter. A system doesn't have to be 100% perfect to make most shooters very happy. I can set up a few low percentage shots on a table and "prove" that no method of aiming is 100% accurate because most people will miss these shots more often than not. The aiming method may or may not actually be perfect, human accuracy isn't good enough to make the shots consistently.

Hu
(Gone to John's thread linked above, bring the popcorn and beer if you are coming)
 
JB Cases said:
I didn't say that his behavior was inappropriate. I said that the threats he made were understood by me. And since he made that threat I took it to mean that he has no intention of being friendly unless I comply. Now, knowing that I normally would not want to further incur his wrath but the moral judgments he decided to pass on me in this thread were too much.

Hu knows exactly what I meant when I referenced his threat. I understood it and acquiesced in that thread in the name of trying to preserve peace.



We are not warring. Hu is the moral compass of this forum. He has set the tone for others to live by and has made it clear to me at least that he will wreck anyone's thread if they disagree with him. Sadly I see myself also doing that and am trying to get better. I have never threatened anyone with doing it as a deliberate act though.



Oh I have a lot of respect for cyberbullies. They can make your life hell if they choose to. In this thread alone I have been told by Hu that I have no value to society, that I am tantamount to a thief and have no idea what a "friend" is.

Cyberbullies like Hu have nothing to lose by perpetrating terroristic posting practices. People like him can and do insult a person however they wish to knowing that they are unlikely to face any consequences. I certainly respect the power of the troll and while the best thing is to ignore them it's not easy when they focus their attention on you.

Anyway, you're ultimately right. Feeding them with replies and acknowledgment only furthers the problem.

As for being knowledgeable about pool........well anyone could lurk here for a while and then post the type of content that Hu posts and they would seem knowledgeable about pool as well. I will reserve the right to be skeptical of Hu's actual playing experience until I find anyone that he ever played who can back up anything he has ever said about fleecing the hustlers among other things.

Just my opinion of course. That and 99cts will get you a cup of coffee.
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Just locking this into a quote for posterity. Too funny since this all started over John's cyber bullying in his thread!

Hu
 
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