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Just had a two day lesson with Mark Wilson, and he had me turn mine a little more onto the shot line. Worked out great for me. Awesome Instructor.
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On all the shots you can use a normal stance, yes. Feels pretty good....
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I have Robin Dryer as a instructor and he told me to line up your front foot with the line of your shot and not the pocket. He also said to align your body with your shot and then step into your stance. I notice when I step into my stance doing this method my front foot with naturally align with the CB to OB line. This is just works best for me. Whatever works best for you keep it up.
Although I respect the techniques of others, I see absolutely no reason how orienting the foot (toes?) affects any shot.
I can see how golf necessitates paying "attention" to the lower extremities, namely the hips, legs, and by definition, the feet.
However, these elements are truly part and parcel of the moving golf shot. The only thing in pool that "moves" is the arm.
Why is there a need to "point" anything other one's cue—and eyes?
Comfort should be the only prerequisite for the feet and the rest of the "incidental" body.
Is this simply another shooting "secret?"
Oh brother (where art thou)!
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You stated....
'' I see absolutely no reason how orienting the foot (toes?) affects any shot.''
Why is that?
At the advanced levels you will actually use your left foot to favor one side of....
It's important to "set" the left side of the body relative to the "line of the shot" every time so both sides of your body (pool's a two sided game) are consistent day in, and day out. Distance from the cue ball is also important to make sure you're body is connected to the cue ball properly.
I recommend putting the left foot PARALLEL to the "line of the shot" so it's easy.
At the advanced levels you will actually use your left foot to favor one side of the pocket or the other. The feet are the foundation of the stroke, so it's important to move your feet to change your shot line slightly instead of interfering with your upper body angles. 'The Game is the Teacher'
It's important to "set" the left side of the body relative to the "line of the shot" every time so both sides of your body (pool's a two sided game) are consistent day in, and day out. Distance from the cue ball is also important to make sure you're body is connected to the cue ball properly.
I recommend putting the left foot PARALLEL to the "line of the shot" so it's easy.
At the advanced levels you will actually use your left foot to favor one side of the pocket or the other. The feet are the foundation of the stroke, so it's important to move your feet to change your shot line slightly instead of interfering with your upper body angles. 'The Game is the Teacher'
The lead foot helps to favor one side of the pocket over the other?
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The CB and the pocket are the only two thing that can remain the same on every shot. I see players get up too close with their body when CB is on or very close to a rail. That's one of the things I got from one of you're DVD's. With my hand on the butt of the cue I put tip of the cue 1" in back of the CB while standing, then I get down on the shot with my body. JT
a lot of "bad days" in pool are a result of getting too far from the cue ball
That's correct, I have 4 connection points for the cue/body relationship and the one you mentioned is for distance. With the hand on the hip (like it's on a "six shooter") the distance of the tip will land an inch or two behind the cue ball.....this puts the shooter in the exact same position day in, day out so they are never "reaching" for the cue ball.
I believe a lot of "bad days" in pool are a result of getting too far from the cue ball....this throws everything off and unless you "real eyes" it's the distance it can lead some frustrating days. 'The Game is the Teacher'
That's correct, I have 4 connection points for the cue/body relationship and the one you mentioned is for distance. With the hand on the hip (like it's on a "six shooter") the distance of the tip will land an inch or two behind the cue ball.....this puts the shooter in the exact same position day in, day out so they are never "reaching" for the cue ball.
I believe a lot of "bad days" in pool are a result of getting too far from the cue ball....this throws everything off and unless you "real eyes" it's the distance it can lead some frustrating days. 'The Game is the Teacher'
There is a very good practice drill that will help you with your foot placement and your allignment. As you get down and are ready to shoot, DO NOT move your feet or take ANY practice strokes and pocket the object ball with one stroke. If you can consistently pocket balls without having to readjust your feet or take any practice strokes then you know you are walking into the shot on the correct line for YOU.
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Tried to point my lead foot at the pocket behind me on a bank shot, and now I can't walk...
Tried to point my lead foot at the pocket behind me on a bank shot, and now I can't walk...
For me "the shot line" means the line the cue ball will travel along to the object ball. It's also the line the stick is pointed along. Is that what you mean?
To me ''walking up'' is the third line. Since Mark Wilson is a Tall man, he's very concerned about this important pre shot aspect. He like myself are Very tall, and thus angles are Effected More so than a shorter person.
I remember a guy once we called ''twinkle toes''. He did everything well and, during his walk up to the shot when he stopped, he did a dance with his feet :happydance: for almost 1/2 second then immediately got down into shooting position.
An experiment and how-to mark your stance position...
To experiment with this, a player needs some constant, some standard, to vary from. Here's what I use on my home table...
I put blue painters tape from the center of one side pocket to the center of the other. This makes a blue line across the center of the table. That's my practice shot line. I set up the cueball on the center spot and shoot an object ball that is sitting on the blue line into the side pocket. This creates the same set-up every time so I can practice varying from that standard, that constant, so to speak.
I then get into my stance and look down at my feet. I take two more short pieces (2") of the blue tape and put one behind each heel on the floor, perpendicular to my foot. That creates the standard set-up position. The tape stays on the floor without damaging it and can be repositioned when it is needed.
Now, with my constant, or standard, position being able to be repeated very accurately, I can begin to adjust and measure the results of a changing stance/set-up/foot-position/bridge, etc. If I find, after hundreds of shots practiced this way, that my stance set-up is off a little, I move the heel tape postion(s) just a little bit, to my new standard set-up position. I then practice and test this new position just like I did the last one to be sure it's what I want and need.
After about 3 years of doing this, I have my set-up position locked down tight. I place a cb on the center spot and do my set-up without first looking at the tape marks. I then look down at the tape marks behind my heels to see how close to my standard I set up myself. If I'm way off, I re-do the set-up routine and examine why I missed that mark in the first place. After a while, the accuracy of my set-up becomes much more precise and consistent.
I don't know if that will work for you like it did for me, but what if it does?
One other thing for those with bad backs.....I have to place my left foot off line a little to keep my back from being overworked and stressed, as would happen if my left foot was parallel to the shot line. My left foot now points just to the right of the cb (I'm right handed). fwiw
Jeff Livingston
To experiment with this, a player needs some constant, some standard, to vary from. Here's what I use on my home table...
I put blue painters tape from the center of one side pocket to the center of the other. This makes a blue line across the center of the table. That's my practice shot line. I set up the cueball on the center spot and shoot an object ball that is sitting on the blue line into the side pocket. This creates the same set-up every time so I can practice varying from that standard, that constant, so to speak.
I then get into my stance and look down at my feet. I take two more short pieces (2") of the blue tape and put one behind each heel on the floor, perpendicular to my foot. That creates the standard set-up position. The tape stays on the floor without damaging it and can be repositioned when it is needed.
Now, with my constant, or standard, position being able to be repeated very accurately, I can begin to adjust and measure the results of a changing stance/set-up/foot-position/bridge, etc. If I find, after hundreds of shots practiced this way, that my stance set-up is off a little, I move the heel tape postion(s) just a little bit, to my new standard set-up position. I then practice and test this new position just like I did the last one to be sure it's what I want and need.
After about 3 years of doing this, I have my set-up position locked down tight. I place a cb on the center spot and do my set-up without first looking at the tape marks. I then look down at the tape marks behind my heels to see how close to my standard I set up myself. If I'm way off, I re-do the set-up routine and examine why I missed that mark in the first place. After a while, the accuracy of my set-up becomes much more precise and consistent.
I don't know if that will work for you like it did for me, but what if it does?
One other thing for those with bad backs.....I have to place my left foot off line a little to keep my back from being overworked and stressed, as would happen if my left foot was parallel to the shot line. My left foot now points just to the right of the cb (I'm right handed). fwiw
Jeff Livingston
In pool a lot of the steps we take are interconnected and effect the outcome of the shaft direction on back swing and delivery, and the more experience and knowledge you gain will provide some clues; just like finding a cure for cancer. Some people say your feet/toe has to be towards the intended line; yet others argue; similarly, many pros have completely different stance. I find out that no matter where your feet are crossing the line on the line, one foot player, what ever, if you do not pause before you pull the trigger (continues muscle/ legements movement); your stroke will be as straight as it is while warming up; if you pause; and your feet crosses the line of aim, moving your dead mussels during the back swing causes a tucking inward action, which puts inside english on the forward delivery and causes the CB to always go left of intended target; Here is where you need to be careful and try and error for best feet/body position until you find the best straight stroke, if all else fails aim with this fact (cue go to left) all the time and will get same results, or stroke like Efren, pre-warmups, pause, warmup shoot no pause.
I know AZBers will call me crazy, i will take it, but i am sure others will think about it.
I added in this rev : if your back swing (stroke) is very short (like-forgot his name- old ESPN commentator/player) it does not matter where your feet are.
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