This will be me for the whole session, POP shirt and a bottle of SJ.
That's what I'm talkin about!!!
Frost vs Alex - 1 Pocket Match on Monday for $40,000
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That's what I'm talkin about!!!
Make sure all of you sweaters and bettors ship Daniel at POV some cheddar for his streaming efforts, he might be there for awhile and he did a great service doing the Swanee stream. You can go to http://www.povpool.com/donate/ .
Wayne Pullen, One Pocket Rich Grenier and Billy I should be in the booth doing commentary for this one. Going to be great stuff.
I haven't played Alex, but I have watched him play and I do know a little about one pocket. It's not like I haven't played top players to notice the difference. I've played Earl Strickland, Danny Smith, Jesse Boweman and Darren Appleton in tournament play. I've also gambled with Joey gray, David G, and Scott Frost and Chris Gentile. Scott is a different animal.
Believe me, it's not just Scott's firepower that makes him tough.
As for the time Scott got beat by Whitey in Des Moines, I give him a pass. He had just gotten demoralized by Shane on a bar table and wasn't in the right frame of mind to take down the cash.
I believe Scott played Whitey in Des Moines as recent as 6 months ago and beat him.
I know how long you been around and you play anyone. You know more about one pocket than most. I wasn't being sarcastic, I thought you did play Alex that's why I said that.
Alex is also a different animal. There's no one on that list that you would bet on playing Alex besides Scott Frost.
Beat doesn't quite tell the story. I think Whitey got past 4 balls in a game only one time in a race to 8, and Scott had to make 12 each game.
That is just crazy stuff, wish I would have stopped by as I was on my road trip then and passing through Des Moines. I sent Scott a picture of some Des Moines sign on HWY 80 and said I was in his stomping grounds, I almost $hit when he said he was there too playing Whitey and to come back but I was in route to Denver on a time schedule.
You are right. Everyone else on the list probably needs at least a ball or two to gamble with Alex. I still think Scott has an edge in this match.
Am I the only one that ever wonders if these guys read this stuff and just laugh? I mean does Scott or Alex look at thread and think, WTF are these guys going on about?
I'm just curious. I've never been good enough for other people to talk about my game, so I'm just curious. I would love to hear what any player thinks, when he listens to, or reads about other people bench racing there game against some one else's.
Still can't wait for some action Tonight!!!!!
I'm just curious. I've never been good enough for other people to talk about my game, so I'm just curious. I would love to hear what any player thinks, when he listens to, or reads about other people bench racing there game against some one else's.
Still can't wait for some action Tonight!!!!!
Yes, that game was 9-5, 4 ahead twice. The second matchup was 12-7, race to 8. Both were blowouts. One to each of them.
where is this action room you mention? I wouldnt mind placing a little sweater
It is interesting to read all of the opinions on here, some are totally clueless and others are spot on. The match is being staked on both ends, 10 hour time limit each day. 8 ahead between these two guys will not take all that long, 10 hours a day for 2-3 days I am guessing but someone could run over the other in 1 day but not very likely. Someone asked who is the last person he beat even for the cash, well that was Efren Reyes I believe in the past 2-3 times. You do not see Efren jumping up to play Frost anymore, his own words were "Scott is the best now.".
For those of you who think Alex runs balls better then Scott in one pocket are crazy, I have seen the guy run 15 and out more times then I can count, 16s, 17s, and even 18 and out all in the same day! Sure it was Dippy Dave he ran those balls against but for all of you without a clue, Dippy probably plays better then most people on the forum especially in one pocket but still got 18-4. The best player in your area who is not a pro will probably get 10-6 (and not like it) from Scott just to put it into perspective on just how good he is, the spot is an illusion when you do not get a shot and the other guy runs to his number just as easily or better then you run to your number. Alex might be a straighter shooter but he does not run the balls better, there are more to running balls in one pocket and even 14.1 then being the straighter shooter, you need to know how to run the balls also.
Is Alex the better all around player?, sure he is, he is probably the best all around player in the world right now but this is not an all around, its one pocket. I think in 8 ahead the best player will rise to the top, that is what this is all about, the best player in a long session for some serious money. If Scott plays one pocket and moves on Alex then Alex is in trouble, if they turn it into a shooting exhibition it is a coin flip. I think Scott runs ball better then Alex in one pocket, banks better but we can call that a tie too if you believe it and moves better but we are not calling that one a tie, all advantages are slight but all ad up in the end. These are just my opinions on it all though, obviously you know who I am rooting for and my opinion is backed with cash too. So all of you no betting people with opinions get in the action room and make your opinion worth something! :thumbup:
8 ahead...
With the way these two guys play there is no doubt 8 ahead is the right format. Honestly, it might even be too short. See these two are both top tier players and any normal (4 or 5) ahead set would not do them justice. One pocket is a funny game and sometimes it looks like a lopsided match, maybe one guy catches some breaks and wins 2 or 3 in a row. For the best player to be decided in one pocket there has to be hours of play. Lots of things come up in a short session that can make it look like one guy has the best of the game, but that may not always be the case. Especially when we are talking about world class players.
With the way these two guys play there is no doubt 8 ahead is the right format. Honestly, it might even be too short. See these two are both top tier players and any normal (4 or 5) ahead set would not do them justice. One pocket is a funny game and sometimes it looks like a lopsided match, maybe one guy catches some breaks and wins 2 or 3 in a row. For the best player to be decided in one pocket there has to be hours of play. Lots of things come up in a short session that can make it look like one guy has the best of the game, but that may not always be the case. Especially when we are talking about world class players.
I laugh about the shit people say on AZB all the time. It really does have a lot of comedic value to it, hahaha.
Get guys like Chris Banks, people with shitty grammar structure that correct other people's grammar and spelling, guys who call out pro's but are too scared to play them with every ball in the world.
If you're a decent player and you go to pool halls, you'll hear a lot of people talking about your game. People talk about wondering whether or not they can beat you if they match up, people talk to other people how little of a tip you have on your ferrule. You'll hear people telling other people to watch you because they like your mechanics or how you stay down on a shot...gossip is everywhere in pool.
arent they supposed to be playing already? POV is showing replays of swanee, am i missing something?
I suspect Scott has a "small" edge here. Alex plays great everything but Scott at his best should beat Alex by a small margin. This is a great match and I hope it's captured for us all to watch later.
As a small note I think Scott prefers Diamonds and this will go down on GC. Should not matter but interesting note. Rails are generally not quite as lively and this might slow down SF from playing some of his power 4rail for shape shots. He'll adapt. This one is close. I suspect it will either go SF quickly or be a very long drawn out affair.
Strap on kids. Smells EPIC. Might become the Color-Of-Money match for one pocket.
regards,
Nick "What the F am I doing on the East Coast now" B
As a small note I think Scott prefers Diamonds and this will go down on GC. Should not matter but interesting note. Rails are generally not quite as lively and this might slow down SF from playing some of his power 4rail for shape shots. He'll adapt. This one is close. I suspect it will either go SF quickly or be a very long drawn out affair.
Strap on kids. Smells EPIC. Might become the Color-Of-Money match for one pocket.
regards,
Nick "What the F am I doing on the East Coast now" B
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