Full splice jig
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I'm making a full splice jig to sell and will post pictures in a couple weeks. I have no clue on price yet.
The full splice jig posted a few months ago was my first attemt at building one. This new jig is built with aluminum 80/20.
The full splice jig posted a few months ago was my first attemt at building one. This new jig is built with aluminum 80/20.
Is the jig for a radial arm, bandsaw, or tablesaw? I have a radial arm saw I don't use for much. I was thinking of trying to build a jig on that.
I'm building one for a radial arm saw which is already sold but I can build another. I'm also building a couple band saw jigs. I'll give the price after I make sure I quoted the first jig correctly.
anything for a table saw?
Does the jig cut the forearm and butt side of the cue? Are veneers possible with it?
Where there is a will there is a way I suppose, but a table saw and a full splice jig is like mixing water and oil. It isn't really suitable for the kind of cuts needed for full splice construction.
Kelly
I agree, a bandsaw is the only way to go. I couldn't even fathom using a radial arm saw.
I agree, a bandsaw is the only way to go. I couldn't even fathom using a radial arm saw.
That is interesting you say that. I think if the jigs were permanently attached, and you had a dedicated radial arm saw for each part, the radial arm saw would be better than the bandsaw. I guess it all depends on which part you can get to move with the most precision. Can you build a jig with a crank to feed the stock, or do you build a heavy sturdy jig and rely on a quality radial arm saw to move the cutter?
Kelly <admits he has only a general idea of the jigs>
Radial arms and table saws can be used to cut the forearms of a fullsplice. Bandsaws for the butt. So two jigs would be needed if you wanted to do it this way. One for the table saw or arm saw and another for the bandsaw. No oil and water...just another way to get it done.
Mark Bear
If you can dedicate a good bandsaw and get it cutting smooth enough (I never can) it would work nice and maybe the best.
As you said, I think if you attach a perminent fixture to a radial arm saw, it should work nice. The way I envision it, you would have to clean up a little left over wood at the bottom of the ponint are because of the round blade. I could be wrong, probably am.
If it is a perminent fixture, you could just put a stop on the arm, so it only travels so far. I'm hoping something like this will work because I have a nice radial collecting dust and using up space.
As you said, I think if you attach a perminent fixture to a radial arm saw, it should work nice. The way I envision it, you would have to clean up a little left over wood at the bottom of the ponint are because of the round blade. I could be wrong, probably am.
If it is a perminent fixture, you could just put a stop on the arm, so it only travels so far. I'm hoping something like this will work because I have a nice radial collecting dust and using up space.
this is ammusing, interested to see if someone will actually come up with one of these for sale. Most guys who make "a good" full splice have made there own jigs through trial and error and tons of frustration "self taught"...don't see them mass producing there jigs to make a couple of hundred bucks. But nothing surprises me anymore.
FYI: the best full splice cues are made without the use of a table/radial arm saw.:wink:
FYI: the best full splice cues are made without the use of a table/radial arm saw.:wink:
Chisels and files?
I have Scott's jig, got it from Lee, make me an offer.
I'll post pictures of the new jigs when they are finished. After the forearm and handle are cut the cue can be assembled with or without veneers. Adding veneers is not easy. There are a lot of angles to figure out to make them perfect.
I just had a Hernia surgery and was on Meds that kept me from working. I'm back to work but everything is behind schedule. I'll get the jig finished soon.
I just had a Hernia surgery and was on Meds that kept me from working. I'm back to work but everything is behind schedule. I'll get the jig finished soon.
That's why I gave mine away! Almost had a tragedy when a "V" bit in the chuck opposite the blade caught my sleeve and was pulling my arm into the saw. That was a couple of years after Dickie almost decapitated himself with one. He had a piece of cocobolo he was trying to rip into turning squares, kick back, hit him along the side of his head and continue through a piece of 1" plywood wall coming to a stop about 15 feet past the wall. Radial arm saws are pretty much obsolete these days, not to mention dangerous.
Damn, that is scary. Yeah, I would never use a radial arm for ripping. I use to use it for cutting trim and stuff. That is about it. I have a nice Bosch miter saw for that now. I guess I do use the radial arm for doing butterfly splices on the butts of sneakies but I have the wood clamped in a mill vice. I agree, they are dangerous. Pretty much everything is when you use it outside of what it was designed for. I've had some near misses using the table saw...outside of its designed use, naturally.
Be careful fellas.
Hand methods always get fitted the best( I'm with joeyincal here)
A tool is only as(Safe), good as the owner- But older radial arms can have a tendency to (walk A machinist friend said - just like a jig that cuts holes in expensive wooden doors,metal -so they fit every time anywhere in the country. He used aBig tabled Gorden pantograph that was adapted for full splice. I have seen the over sized band saw methods .they work good. Gus did use Radial arm style full splice. And there are thick and thin veeners. Jerry- R- has great experience replacing venners. So keep up the tradition Scott Gracio for helping make these jigs- cool really cool. mark
A tool is only as(Safe), good as the owner- But older radial arms can have a tendency to (walk A machinist friend said - just like a jig that cuts holes in expensive wooden doors,metal -so they fit every time anywhere in the country. He used aBig tabled Gorden pantograph that was adapted for full splice. I have seen the over sized band saw methods .they work good. Gus did use Radial arm style full splice. And there are thick and thin veeners. Jerry- R- has great experience replacing venners. So keep up the tradition Scott Gracio for helping make these jigs- cool really cool. mark