Official BCAPL response / other info
If, by "BCA", you mean either a BCAPL league or an independent league that is using BCAPL rules, the following applies.
Suggested guidance is available in "BCAPL 8-Ball Scoring Anomalies", which is part of the "BCAPL 8-BAll League Scoring and Handicapping" section of the BCAPL League Operator's Manual. Your League Operator should have that information. In all cases, shooter's intent is considered in determining scoring. Situation 1, while not the
exact OP situation, provides the most accurate guidance:
"Shooter approaches the table with an 'Open Table.' The shooter calls the 1-ball, pockets the 1-ball, but unintentionally pockets the 8-ball as well - thus losing the game. The opponent is credited with 10 points for the win and the shooter receives 1 point due to the 1-ball no longer being on the table...”
Please remember, this is a
suggested system. While your league's exact point system may vary, the principle of crediting the pocketed stripes to the shooter in the OP situation would apply. Or, it may be that your League Operator has a detailed system providing other guidance.
To help leagues that are not provded such guidance by their operator, the "Applied Rulings" section of the BCAPL rule book will be updated with an entry for BCAPL Rule 2.7.2 to direct inquiries concerning detailed handicap-based scoring guidance to the information above, via either the League Operator or the BCAPL website.
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If, by "BCA", you mean an independent league that is using WSR, then unfortunately you are on your own, unless your League Management has the sense to write extensive regulations to fill in the huge gaps left by WSR, which offers no guidance whatsoever to, nor seems to have any interest in assisting, amateur league play concerning scoring in a ball-count points based system.
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Buddy Eick
BCAPL National Head Referee
BCAPL Director of Referee Training
Technical Editor, BCAPL Rule Book
bcapl_referee@cox.net
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http://www.playbca.com/Downloads/Rulebook/CompleteRulebook/tabid/372/Default.aspx
* The contents of this post refer to BCA Pool League (BCAPL) Rules only. The BCAPL National Office has authorized me to act in an official capacity regarding questions about BCAPL Rules matters in public forums.
* Neither I nor any BCAPL referee make any policy decisions regarding BCAPL Rules. Any and all decisions, interpretations, or Applied Rulings are made by the BCAPL National Office and are solely their responsibility. BCAPL referees are enforcers of rules, not legislators. BCAPL Rules 9.5.3 and 9.5.4 and the BCAPL Rules "Statement of Principles" apply.
* No reference to, inference concerning, or comment on any other set of rules (WPA, APA, VNEA, TAP, or any other set of rules, public or private) is intended or should be derived from this post unless specifically stated.
* For General Rules, 8-Ball, 9-Ball, 10-Ball, and 14.1 Continuous: there is no such thing as "BCA Rules" other than in the sense that the Billiard Congress of America (BCA) publishes various rules, including the World Pool-Billiard Association's "World Standardized Rules" for those games. The BCA has no rules committee. The BCA does not edit, nor is responsible for the content of, the World Standardized Rules. The Official Rules of the BCAPL is a separate and independent set of rules and, to avoid confusion, should not be referred to as "BCA Rules".
* Since 2004, there is no such thing as a "BCA Referee". The BCA no longer has any program to train, certify or sanction billiards referees or officials.
* The BCAPL has no association with the Billiard Congress of America other than in their capacity as a member of the BCA. The letters "BCA" in BCAPL do not stand for "Billiard Congress of America, nor for anything at all.
* The BCAPL has not addressed every imaginable rules issue, nor will it ever likely be able to, as evidenced by the seemingly endless situations that people dream up or that (more frequently) actually happen. If I do not have the answer to a question I will tell you so, then I will get a ruling from the BCAPL National Office and get back to you as soon as I can. If deemed necessary, the BCAPL will then add the ruling to the "Applied Rulings" section of The Official Rules of the BCA Pool League.
* All BCAPL members are, as always, encouraged to e-mail Bill Stock at the BCAPL National Office, bill@playcsi.com, with any comments, concerns or suggestions about the BCAPL rules.