Future tips?

Mr. Wiggles

Mr. Wiggles

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Reading a post about tips and made me think of a tip I tried back in the early eighties, maybe? Called the Future Tip. Blue or maybe blue green. Synthetic all the way as I remember. Thing played great, but constantly fell off! Three times and I was done. Anyone else remember the Future tip?
 
Mr. Wiggles said:
Reading a post about tips and made me think of a tip I tried back in the early eighties, maybe? Called the Future Tip. Blue or maybe blue green. Synthetic all the way as I remember. Thing played great, but constantly fell off! Three times and I was done. Anyone else remember the Future tip?
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Apparently not...does anyone remember this section is still here? ;)
 
Yeah I remember them seems like they had a ceramic matrix design and they were hot for a short time. There were some tips made from the material of a super ball too, wierd things happened with them.
 
Here's a little proof you know what you're talking about
 

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poolplayer2093 said:
so they played pretty good huh?
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As compared to what? They were not even as good as a LePro. I had them and gave them a try, they were terrible. They did nothing extra ordinary and better the maybe the worst tips on the market at that time. Today they would have no market tips have gotten so much better, layered and such.
 
Mr. Wiggles said:
... Anyone else remember the Future tip?
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Yes. They were made from polyurethane. The ones I tried were extremely hard -- really "clicked" when hitting the cue ball. I kind of liked them, but I never found anyone else who did.

Edit: my experience with them was in the early 90's.
 
I was addicted to them for several years and had several other players turned on to them as well... The blue was the medium the brown was the soft and the black was their billiard tip and was super hard.... I played with the blacks and almost cried when I shattered my last one breaking with it...

The blacks were prone to miscue and over a long period would develop stress fractures if you broke with them....

I actually bought a few from Cuesmith on here 2 years ago and I want to say I think he still has some put back. A friend of mine is playing with a blue every day just like he did in the late 80s....

They even had a tip that didn't require chalk but they were ahead of their time.

They are the main reason I am playing with a BK2 phenolic tip and all... Leather cannot come close to the Coefficient of Resilience found in synthetics......
 
I was exposed to them when these were still readily available.

I never tried to use them as a playing tip,as mentioned they were super-ball type shit,felt crazy but could apply spin that was phenomenal,but uncontollable too. I did however use them for breaking and jumping.

I've had the same one (black) on the Schon shaft I use with my McDaniel jump cue butt for over 15 years. I don't believe anything is better,period.

I used them on my break cue for years before "making" my own break tips,the Madman and Samsaras have come out since,and BOTH are harder,believe it or not. The bottom line on these is the same,awesome. If I had more than one black one left,I'd have them on ALL of my break shafts.

Even though this was a plastic,it wasn't even close to being as hard as phenolics. Of those,the Samsara is in my opinion the closest to hardness. It wasn't so hard it wouldn't flatten out on cue ball impact,it actually had a slight amount of "give" to it. A well hit break left you with a chalk mark on the ball the full width of your tip,and and least with me,it also left the cue ball stuck in the middle of the table like it died of a brain hemmorage :grin-square:.

The only drawback to these was getting them to stay on due to their texture and what I now consider to be inferior CA glues readily available at the time.

The ones I got to stick were sanded on like 60 grit brown sanding belt-type paper,and a gluing method similar to what is now known colloquially as the Searing method where you more or less apply glue twice.

You sanded the tip,applied CA glue,spread it out without letting it set,blew on the tip to try and get it to set,then added another dab of glue,clamp and let it set a couple hours,although CA quality and technology have advanced a LOT since the early 90's,so maybe that's not the best way now.

If I knew I had a backup in case it failed after cutting to size,I'd try the one I have with Gorilla or epoxy these days and clamp it.

The friend that gave me my last few is no longer with us,but told me back then he was close friends with Bill Howard,the guy that marketed these.

They cut nice in a lathe,and can even be easily cut to size using a Porper Grazer pencil-eraser type cutter. They feel like hard rubber when using a file to shape them,and smell like melting electrical tape when being worked.

I have 2 blue and a green if anyone is interested,but won't part with the black. Tommy D.
 
polyurethene was my exact thought into new cue tip technology. i have alot of experience with it and you can get it in many different durometers and colors. after polyurethene cures it has a very dense surface due to surface tension. i have machined it on a lathe and it creates a beautiful texture for cue tip application. i actually though about developing tips but apparently the cat is already out of the bag.
 
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