Gambling advice needed

Rpm

Rpm

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I matched up last with a weaker player playing 9 ball, we started out with me giving him the breaks and the wild eight, after a few sets he wanted the wild 7 8 and winner breaks. I ended up 300 winner playing 100 a set. When we finished he asked if i could play again this weekend but he wants more weight, specifically the wild 7 8 and the breaks. is there another spot you guys could suggest that approximately the same as the wild 7 8 and the breaks where i don't have to give up all the breaks?
 
Rpm said:
I matched up last with a weaker player playing 9 ball, we started out with me giving him the breaks and the wild eight, after a few sets he wanted the wild 7 8 and winner breaks. I ended up 300 winner playing 100 a set. When we finished he asked if i could play again this weekend but he wants more weight, specifically the wild 7 8 and the breaks. is there another spot you guys could suggest that approximately the same as the wild 7 8 and the breaks where i don't have to give up all the breaks?
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Called 6-out. Winner breaks.
 
Rpm said:
I matched up last with a weaker player playing 9 ball, we started out with me giving him the breaks and the wild eight, after a few sets he wanted the wild 7 8 and winner breaks. I ended up 300 winner playing 100 a set. When we finished he asked if i could play again this weekend but he wants more weight, specifically the wild 7 8 and the breaks. is there another spot you guys could suggest that approximately the same as the wild 7 8 and the breaks where i don't have to give up all the breaks?
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if you can beat him giving that up, then why not? offer him half the breaks (flip when you win). you're already giving him the world. i would stand my ground and not give him any more. he'll play again, they always do.
 
How many 100 sets did you play to get three sets up? If it was less than 5 sets I'd give him the the call 6 out with alt breaks. If he can run 5balls most of the time ...I wouldn't. It's really hard for any of us to say w/o seeing you both matched up. Johnnyt
 
Tell him you will give him the 6 8 and winner breaks. Rack the 7 ball on the wing so that if it goes on the break, then its like you are giving him the 7 8 again. If it doesnt, then have a little cusion to play safe with providing that you can get to the 6 first. JMO.

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At 9 sets and you 3 up I see it as you beating him 2to1 overall. I'd play the same game and give him the break. To be honest, for most players who aren't top speed the break isn't really that big of an advantage on MOST tables, and sometimes it can be BETTER to give away the break. The only stipulation I'd make is his money balls come back up on the break and he keeps shooting (except for the 9 if you play like that).
 
Gerry said:
At 9 sets and you 3 up I see it as you beating him 2to1 overall. I'd play the same game and give him the break. To be honest, for most players who aren't top speed the break isn't really that big of an advantage on MOST tables, and sometimes it can be BETTER to give away the break. The only stipulation I'd make is his money balls come back up on the break and he keeps shooting (except for the 9 if you play like that).
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Good thinking Gerry. Your right we tend to forget that the avg player doesn't get much out of the break. Johnnyt
 
you can also look at winner or alt. break, giving him the 7, 8 and last 2 or 3. personally, I would just assume give him the last 3 or 4 and not any wild balls through the rack. Of course, you have to be pretty sure that you can run those last 3-4 balls on a consistant basis to give that.

Dags...

P.S. You can also talk about putting games on the wire along with the 7,8. Not sure how close the sets were, but 2 or 3 to 9 isn't out of line. There are many ways to handicap a matchup. Mix and match'em till you find what you feel is a good game.
 
easy-e said:
Called 6-out. Winner breaks.
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You could

1) Keep adjusting the spot up till you can not win anymore, that's real smart.
2) Tell him the spot stays the same, and come back when his game is better.

You guys that adjust the spot all the time, giving up more and more, so you will have to shoot perfect to win just slay me. Seems to me, the reason you play to begin with is TO WIN MONEY. Adjusting spots all the time, decreases your chances of doing that.

And to those Greenhorns that don't know any better, the lessor player does not name the spot, the better player tells the lessor player what he will give him, take it or leave it. The lessor player, after all, is the one trying to become known as an up-n-coming player by beating a better player.

ARETHA - How do you spell that word again????
 
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Rpm said:
I matched up last with a weaker player playing 9 ball, we started out with me giving him the breaks and the wild eight, after a few sets he wanted the wild 7 8 and winner breaks. I ended up 300 winner playing 100 a set. When we finished he asked if i could play again this weekend but he wants more weight, specifically the wild 7 8 and the breaks. is there another spot you guys could suggest that approximately the same as the wild 7 8 and the breaks where i don't have to give up all the breaks?
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If you want to adjust, give him the game he asks for but he would have to call the 7/8 on the break, not wild. Or suggest alternate breaks so you can't string racks.
 
I have one rule you might want to consider when it comes to adjusting.. Never change the spot between meetings. The old saying "On any given day" can still apply in pool as well. If I am on the giving side, I tell the opponent I'll give them the same start where we left off and see how things go from there. I tell them that if they bring their game, then we might even have to adjust the other way. They take that as admitting they have a better game to show in them and usually agree to meet up again. I am one of those guys that can play so bad on an off day, I look like l am a 4 one day and an 8 or 9 on a good day. So if I can get a big spot in between meetings after I know I shot like an 8 year old, I will be smiling inside when we meet and frowning outside like I lost my best friend. So, if your opponent has any amount of unpredictability like me in his game, adjusting between meetings is a dangerous way for you to find that out. You sound like you are pretty good and ready to give up the world. Ever come to Boise? I am only a 5 (tee, hee, hee )and definitely need some of that generous weight you like throwing around so easily.
 
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Giving weight

First off that is a lot of weight to be giving up. He should not be playing you imo if he needs that much. As to your question Id offer the last two and 3 games on the wire race to 11
 
If he has a bad break, tell him you will give him the 2 ball and rack it behind the 9. Chances are you will be the one shooting the 2 and then your playing even.
 
Gambling advice? Sure. Never gamble at pool. Make games that you are sure to win. Like a business. Invest your post money only when it is sure to net you a return on investment. I may or may not be kidding here:D
 
thanx for the answers

I think i'll offer him the same game with the explanation of how he was supposed to win the last time and i got lucky, if he doesn't take it i'll look for more even action.
Rpm
 
Giving someone the breaks at a B or C level is not too much of an advantage, the only real risk is the 9 ending up in a good place for a early combo or go in on the break. Infact, based on how I play at least, a B will most likely do worse with the breaks as they can run 5-6-7 but not 8 a lot of times, giving you 2-3 ball outs. Maybe play called 9, spots up on the break, then it applies to you as well, so its an even spot, but at the same time will prevent the dangers of giving up the breaks and a possible 9 on the break.
 
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