Gambling One Pocket with Tight or Big pockets?

[Black-Balled]

I believe you because I have no reason not to....

But, 21-3 is very hard to believe.

Was the guy Ronnie was playing blind?

Seriously hard to believe.

Difficult to answer, but what would a similar amount of weight would that be in 9 ball? The wild 3-9?

Againt folk who couldnt run 3s too.often, of course.
The world was different, back then. People who went in the pool room generally bet money.

As for drawing a prallel with a 9b spot, it isnt really possible, given the different way each game is won.

 

[garczar]

Againt folk who couldnt run 3s too.often, of course.
The world was different, back then. People who went in the pool room generally bet money.

As for drawing a prallel with a 9b spot, it isnt really possible, given the different way each game is won.

Exactly, people weren't near as gunshy/scared then. He'd offer these huge spots to get guys out of their chair. BTW, Ronnie played one-handed jacked-up better than a lot of people could with both hands. Guy re-wrote the book on one-hole. Before RA it was a boring bunt-hide-bunt-hide game. Ronnie was offensive to the max and he GOT THE CASH, a LOT.

 

[lfigueroa]

There are plenty of YouTube vids of guys running 15 and out. None of them will be doing that on 4 1/8" pockets.

er, OK.

Lou Figueroa

 

[haystj]

Ronnie was offensive to the max and he GOT THE CASH, a LOT.

I have to wonder how much someone would have to bet to get 21-3.....

I don't consider myself a gambler but heck I would have to play anyone at that spot for $100 a game (and I am a $20 a game player).

Now, $500 a game would bring my pucker factor way up to the uncomfortable level.

 

[fjk]

Logic error. Your situation's specific- he only out shot you- does not apply to situations where the "better than" includes moving skill.

You're right. Let me specify: there was no doubt he was a better player too. What I meant was when I made a bad mistake, it cost me a lot of balls because of the easy pockets. When I made a bad mistake on the snooker table, it wasn't costing me 6,8 or 10 balls. In my case, the tighter pockets favored the weaker player.

 

[dabarbr]

A huge difference for the better player on big pockets is the banking aspect. On thigh pockets most cross corner banks are shot with lag speed but with the looser pockets the better player will bank these shots with whatever speed is necessary to get position on the next ball to start a big run.

With bigger pockets, if the lesser player has a ball next to his hole, the better player will most likely disregard that ball if there is a cross corner bank with the chance of running some balls. With thigh pockets he might reconsider that bank and deal with the ball that is near his opponents pocket.

I think most players that give up big spots would prefer to play with big pockets. If they are giving up spots like what's mentioned here then it would stand to reason that they are also fair movers in one pocket.

 

[deanoc]

i played many the game with big spots and foung 5 inch or 4.75 is better for me

i play quite a bit better on loose tables and also have trouble getting balls out of their hole
where as they get them out of mine

in rare occasions when playing 9 ball players one pocket,tight pockets helped me

it kept them from firing at anything

if you prefer tight pockets ,play tight pockets if you have trouble with them,as i do,don't

i think tight pockets are ruining the game

 

[haystj]

i think tight pockets are ruining the game

I agree with this. The fun part of pool is making balls.


We certainly don't see recreational golfers using the same equipment the PGA tour guys are using,,,,, for the reason that the game of golf is more fun when you actually solidly hit the ball.

I certainly enjoy watching 2 pros go at it on a table with 4.25" pockets but I am not thrilled playing on it.

 

[lfigueroa]

i played many the game with big spots and foung 5 inch or 4.75 is better for me

i play quite a bit better on loose tables and also have trouble getting balls out of their hole
where as they get them out of mine

in rare occasions when playing 9 ball players one pocket,tight pockets helped me

it kept them from firing at anything

if you prefer tight pockets ,play tight pockets if you have trouble with them,as i do,don't

i think tight pockets are ruining the game

Agreed. I always felt the guy I was giving weight to had better odds dribbling balls in that would never go on a tighter table. Or he'd hang them up and they'd be impossible to take out. On tighter equipment I also felt I could use distance to greater advantage.

I also agree about the tight pockets thing on two levels. First, some rooms have taken it to an extreme. Some geniuses out there think super tight pockets are perfect for 1pocket and there are some tables out there that turn the game into something other than pool.

Second is something I've mentioned before: tight pockets, and by that I mean Diamonds and shimmed GCs, have ruined the game for the casual player. Don't get me wrong. I think Diamonds are perfect for competitive play but for the casual player that wants to play with his buddies or show off to his girl friend, they are a disaster. No one can pull a stick off the wall and show off. No one can succeed because the equipment is too demanding for the civilians.

Lou Figueroa