It is a standard snooker player stance. The first time you see it, you do have to wonder, "Doesn't that hurt?!?"
Gareth Potts 8 pack of 9-ball on a Chinese 8-ball table
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I remember trying a slow spin kick on such cloth. The cue ball arrived at the far rail with nothing.
One could argue that the "correct" cloth should be such that the speed and spin go down together so the ratio remains constant. Pool cloth seems much closer to that than fuzzy snooker cloth.
The most satisfying snooker I ever played was on a 5x10 with carom cloth....
...where you could play the shots you dream about.
A spin wizard in Toronto did a stop shot with extreme spin...we timed it..it spun for 37 seconds.
Don Feeney was there...he told me quietly...guy in Chicago does that on a carom table...
...was timed at THREE MINUTES
I think you can only get to three minutes if something special is going on like a funny place in the cloth or it's sitting on a new spot sticker. My own record is 45 seconds and it was on undoctored cloth but I did use a cheat -- I shot a ball into a cue stick.
That shot was early 90s....but I think they knew about silicone? Back then.
Not sure I’d say it’s standard. He’s got some serious torque going on in his torso, and his elbow is cocked over his back, a la Joe Swail.
Man, that was impressive. The one in the seventh rack was ridiculous on that table; bridging over a ball, cutting down the rail, and playing on the two which was pretty tight to the cushion.
Also love that he’s soft breaking with a Rush
It’s much more amusing imagining that he’s intentionally soft breaking with the Rush just to take the piss.
He does seem to have a little "side arm" as we say at pool (elbow closer to the body than the grip hand).
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Here's a good shot of the torque:
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Or just to collect the sponsorship.:thumbup: Corey often breaks with his playing cue.... Also love that he’s soft breaking with a Rush
Based on my own experience shooting on a Chinese snooker table, I'm buying in to the original post suggesting that, in terms of difficulty, this is comparable to a sixteen-pack at pool in 9-ball. With the balls up the rail virtually unplayable, there are many layouts that present just miracle chances for a runout.
That some fancy shooting right there!
That some fancy shooting right there!
It has been a sometimes rule in big tournaments that the 2 is always racked in back. It did seem to come up to the head of the table a lot in this run, which made the starts easier.
Looks like it's all to get the cue under his opposite eye. I'm not cross dominant like him, but I do a little of the same thing to get it to the right place. He's so contorted because of the snooker square feet position.
Seems like that elbow position would put a swoop in his stroke.
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Does anybody play straight pool on those tables? Wonder what runs would look like...
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Have to disagree there, Bob. I'm sure it started out as a standard snooker stance, but is no longer. I've watched a ton of snooker and studied Ronnie O quite a bit, and none of those guys have the angle difference between where their feet/legs are set and where their shoulders are set. It's like he opens his right leg way up
After watching the run, it seems to me the cloth made all the difference. Its like the best of both worlds. Simonis is so fast, the balls fly all around (even with a soft break) and end up in a totally random pattern. But Simonis is ultra slick when its new and makes pockets play incredibly loose. This cloth..I do not have the same impression as I watch. I understand its new and slick, making pocketing the ball easier than at any other time in the cloth's life. But the way the balls open up in a very feathery way, its as if the cloth is slick enough to get them to spread out, but not so fast that bump around randomly. Rather the balls seem to runout towards the pockets and sort of die away from each other.
I know Potts game, and I realize he is a world class shooter etc. He gets all the credit for doing something most people in the world can never accomplish.
My observations have more to do with being interested in how different combinations of equipment work together. ( Something the pool/snooker/C8B could explore more IMO.)
I know Potts game, and I realize he is a world class shooter etc. He gets all the credit for doing something most people in the world can never accomplish.
My observations have more to do with being interested in how different combinations of equipment work together. ( Something the pool/snooker/C8B could explore more IMO.)
I've played it only once up in the loft of a bar way outside Beijing. Here's a buddy at the table. I bet even a single rack run would be hard with the house cues we had. The best one, since the ferrule was broken off evenly, is shown in the other pic.
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It may depend on the shot, but I think Hendry's stance (from the waist down) looks a lot like Potts', or vice versa. There are some other snooker players who seem similarly torqued.
I agree about Ronnie -- looks a lot more comfortable.