George Breedlove's side of the story - it's different.

Williebetmore

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I happened to run into George Breedlove yesterday, who was VERY distressed about the recent AZB threads in the IPT forum regarding his statement/proposition at the recent IPT event (I was not the one that brought this to his attention - Stevie L is my buddy:) ). He states emphatically that what was posted on AZB is NOT what happened; and he is very upset that people would think such things about him. He asked me to post this to help set the record straight. At the end, I'll list the link to the thread, and the actual proposition which is and always has been in effect.

It was implied on this forum that he was using his "day job" as an excuse for losing a match; and he states that this was NOT the case. He stated that the only time he mentioned his proposition was BEFORE his match with Ralf Souquet (NOT after a loss), and ONLY in direct response to a question from a journalist about his proposition (which has been in effect for quite some time BEFORE the IPT tournament).

The reason he was asked the question was because of a match earlier this year in Indy between George and a champion player passing through town. This champ is a full-time world renowned player - plays all day, every day, has sponsorship. The champ passing through was looking for action, George was called, came from work, and agreed to a 10-ahead set for 1K. George wins the first set in about 45 minutes. The perturbed champ insists on a change of venue, they change pool halls, and start another set. After about 6 hours it is still very even (though the champ several times approached the hill). The champ is very disgruntled, slamming racks and balls around, insisting on a raising of the stakes in a somewhat insulting manner. As many know, George gambles his OWN money, and has a lot of heart - to question otherwise is somewhat impolite; but on the other hand, he is working full-time, he's tired, and the bet has already been agreed upon. It seemed the pro was trying to take advantage of the situation.

At this point, George re-iterated his standard proposition (turned down by this particular pro) - IT IS A REAL PROPOSITION OPEN TO ANY PLAYER; if you want to make some real money, then he will wager 50K of his own. You work for him for 30 days, then play the set for 50K. The work is tough, very physical, probably a minimum of 75 hours a week; not much sleep. If you have the month to spare and the 50K, it can happen no matter who the player is. It is obvious that he does not think that the top champions can maintain a level of play to exceed his with this type of schedule. Anyone who disagree's just needs to put up the funds, and come to Indy for a month - it will be fun. He was NOT using this proposition as an excuse for losing any match. He believes his skills are fine even with very little play and no practice; and he WELCOMES any challengers to this proposition.

In any case, George's response in Vegas was to a journalist asking about the proposition; and he told her the terms of it. No excuses were being made; just the thought of that is very abhorrent to him.

Anyway, he just wanted people to know that he was not an excuse maker.

P.S. - To Stevie L. he says he would never take your proposition; he does not believe he could make 3 freaking balls in a row if he had to work at a desk for a week.

P.P.S. - Here is a link to the thread with which he was upset (not mad, just distressed that people would think that about him):

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=37177&highlight=breedlove
 
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:D I love it. Pot leaf guy just corrected the surgeon. That will teach you to try to type fast between patients.:rolleyes:
 
just kinda proves that what some people post on AZB can and does upset other people. this Forum should remain professional, no matter how big or small the topic. hopefully with that type of attitude influencing our posts this Forum will live long and prosper.

nice job George.............

DCP
 
you know i was just messin' witcha willie. and good jorb on protecting GB's rep.

-s

//it's all spelled the way i wanted.
 
Ktown D said:
:D I love it. Pot leaf guy just corrected the surgeon. That will teach you to try to type fast between patients.:rolleyes:

hey, i got rid of the <illegal item> avatar. too late to keep it low-key now, eh?

-s
 
Williebetmore said:
P.S. - To Stevie L. he says he would never take your proposition; he does not believe he could make 3 freaking balls in a row if he had to work at a desk for a week.

:eek: Now I finally know why I can't make three freaking balls in a row! :mad: And all this time I thought it was my stroke... :D
 
Williebetmore said:
You work for him for 30 days

Willie,

For the 30 days a player works for him, what is the hourly rate? I assume it is hourly, not salaried since it is 75 hours a week. Does he offer benefits: medical insurance? 401k? Vision? Flextime? What about parental leave? Any signing bonus? Is vacation time given on day one or accrued? Any chance for advancement? Management opportunities? Some many unanswered questions, how could anybody take the offer seriously?

:D
 
Just goes to show how hearsay works... one guy says something, another guy tells a third guy what he THINKS he heard, etc.
 
George Breedlove is one of my favorite players. I also enjoy watching Jamie Baraks.
 
mthornto said:
Willie,

For the 30 days a player works for him, what is the hourly rate? I assume it is hourly, not salaried since it is 75 hours a week. Does he offer benefits: medical insurance? 401k? Vision? Flextime? What about parental leave? Any signing bonus? Is vacation time given on day one or accrued? Any chance for advancement? Management opportunities? Some many unanswered questions, how could anybody take the offer seriously?

:D

MT,
I don't know the wage and benefit info (I'll find out). I'm assuming the 50K for one month's work would be enough reward for anyone who thought they could win. I doubt the hourly wage he pays his crews would be a deal breaker one way or the other - though it might mitigate the pain a little for someone who loses the wager. If George is getting decent work out of the fellow, I suspect he is willing to pay him.

In any case, it IS a serious offer; I'm sure the participants can hammer out the details (I'm assuming you are not entertaining the idea).
 
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Williebetmore said:
MT,
I don't know the wage and benefit info (I'll find out). I'm assuming the 50K for one months work would be enough reward for anyone who thought they could win. I doubt the hourly wage he pays his crews would be a deal breaker one way or the other - though it might mitigate the pain a little for someone who loses the wager. If George is getting decent work out of the fellow, I suspect he is willing to pay him.

In any case, it IS a serious offer; I'm sure the participants can hammer out the details (I'm assuming you are not entertaining the idea).

What is his work? It sounds like he has quite an extraordinary commitment to it, especially for someone whose wife makes enough money to support a family (or do I have the wrong idea about Jennette's income?).

-Andrew
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
...with that type of attitude influencing our posts this Forum will live long and prosper.

DCP







Eric >couldn't resist
 

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Andrew Manning said:
What is his work? It sounds like he has quite an extraordinary commitment to it, especially for someone whose wife makes enough money to support a family (or do I have the wrong idea about Jennette's income?).

-Andrew

Drew,
George owns and operates Midwest Outdoor Products in Camby (with outlets around central Indiana). They design, manufacture, and install very high quality decks (I have one on my house for those that have made a pilgrimage to the shrine that is Betmore's Basement), gazebo's, playhouses, sheds, outdoor furniture. The crew's work is typically carrying, sawing, nailing, digging (I would have said screwing since they use screws on the decks instead of nails, but I knew that would only result in a host of offers from the sex-starved members of the forum).

No business runs properly without the commitment of the owner; George seems more dedicated than most I have dealt with. I have not reviewed anyone's financial statements so I can't comment on your other question.
 
How long would I have to work to have the oppertunity to hook up with his wife......I am just kidding!!! It is a thought though. You might get more takers.. LOL
 
All About George

I've known George Breedlove from long before he even met Jeanette. He is one first class, stand up guy all the way. He has always been a class act every time I have been around him. I have always said it would take a real man to be married to a celebrity like Jeanette. And that man is George. Jeanette choose well.

He is very much his own man, with talent and heart to match anyone. George is a man of principles and values. And a plus for the billiard industry. He doesn't need his wife's support. He can carry his own weight. Together they are a powerful couple. He may not know this, but George is one of my favorite people in the pool world. I'm always pulling for him.

The only working man I can compare him with is Ernesto Dominguez. Ernesto works long hours recovering and repairing pool tables. It is tedious and back breaking work. He can still pick up a cue on the weekend and play with the best players in S. California. And is not adverse to taking on a road man for some serious cash.
 
more on this, WBM

I played Buddy, Mike, Nick, etc. for more than 40 years. I tried to remember even once where one of us cheated the other and I could not.
The player you're talking about, WMB, has no class at all. He cheats on a regular basis and, if given the chance will also "muscle" the opposition. It's absolutely disgraceful and he should be ashamed of himself.
I tried to reason with this gentleman(?) once. Well, you can't have a battle of wits when the other side is unarmed.
Bobby Jones, the late great golfer was once asked if he'd cheat if given an absolutely risk free situation. His response,"You might as well ask me to rob a bank." We need that kind of attitude in pool.
I'm worried about the integrity of the IPT. First you have guys like George, who called a foul on himself in a $2,000 entry fee qualifier where he probably would have qualified if he had not called the foul on himself. Then you have the guys who lately have looked for every insignificant, chicken shit foul they can find, like the one where the cue ball was no where near to scratching and had maybe a sixteenth of an inch to go and the player picked it up and, you guessed it, got a foul called on him.
If I were a class act like George, I'd never gamble against low-lifes like the one we're talking about. Anyway, thanks, Don for clearing this matter up.
 
Grady said:
I played Buddy, Mike, Nick, etc. for more than 40 years. I tried to remember even once where one of us cheated the other and I could not.
The player you're talking about, WMB, has no class at all. He cheats on a regular basis and, if given the chance will also "muscle" the opposition. It's absolutely disgraceful and he should be ashamed of himself.
I tried to reason with this gentleman(?) once. Well, you can't have a battle of wits when the other side is unarmed.
Bobby Jones, the late great golfer was once asked if he'd cheat if given an absolutely risk free situation. His response,"You might as well ask me to rob a bank." We need that kind of attitude in pool.
I'm worried about the integrity of the IPT. First you have guys like George, who called a foul on himself in a $2,000 entry fee qualifier where he probably would have qualified if he had not called the foul on himself. Then you have the guys who lately have looked for every insignificant, chicken shit foul they can find, like the one where the cue ball was no where near to scratching and had maybe a sixteenth of an inch to go and the player picked it up and, you guessed it, got a foul called on him.
If I were a class act like George, I'd never gamble against low-lifes like the one we're talking about. Anyway, thanks, Don for clearing this matter up.

All true about the above players, who would never stoop to cheating to win. One thing I will say for Grady, and I saw him gamble many times. He was the first to grab a ball and put it up if he fouled. His opponent didn't have to say a word. Grady only wanted to win on the square.

So, If I hear Grady complain about a call, I know there is something to it. In fact, I'm gonna lean way Grady's way. He can probably spot a good hit better than most officials. I ref'd for Grady several times, including the finals of the Brunswick Open in Vegas. We never had a problem, ever.
 
Grady said:
The player you're talking about, WMB, has no class at all. He cheats on a regular basis and, if given the chance will also "muscle" the opposition. It's absolutely disgraceful and he should be ashamed of himself.
I tried to reason with this gentleman(?) once. Well, you can't have a battle of wits when the other side is unarmed.

I'm trying to change for the better.
 
Williebetmore said:
I happened to run into George Breedlove yesterday, who was VERY distressed about the recent AZB threads in the IPT forum regarding his statement/proposition at the recent IPT event (I was not the one that brought this to his attention - Stevie L is my buddy:) ).

It was implied on this forum that he was using his "day job" as an excuse for losing a match; and he states that this was NOT the case. He stated that the only time he mentioned his proposition was BEFORE his match with Ralf Souquet (NOT after a loss), and ONLY in direct response to a question from a journalist about his proposition (which has been in effect for quite some time BEFORE the IPT tournament).



Anyway, he just wanted people to know that he was not an excuse maker.

P.S. - To Stevie L. he says he would never take your proposition; he does not believe he could make 3 freaking balls in a row if he had to work at a desk for a week.

Hi Don,

I wish now I wouldn't have posted the thread because there's plenty of people that aren't as nice as George I could get on about things they say (myself included).


I will say that his comments are still on the.....IPT....site under archives and it reads that he said it after he BEAT Sammy Jones BUT DIDN'T make the next round. I know they just want to stir up a little (the IPT) and I guess we just have to get used to it.


BUT.........


I knew he wouldn't take me up on it.



Anyway, tell him I'm sorry and I'll buy dinner when we cross paths and if he's nice I won't have Marty Sawinski imitate him or Jeanette.




P.S. the reply to Grady is in jest, I hope he doesn't mean me, I've loved him forever and I thought it was mutual
 
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