Give-away For A Road Player

shamadam said:
You better be kidding, you missed it too! LOL. I'm not even going to try.:D
That is unless you do spell it Connecticut, them I'm the dummy and sorry.
Nah...I was 99% sure I was correct, but I checked twice before posting just to make sure...lol.
 
JDB said:
I would like to see Connecticut spelled correctly at least once in your post when you are making a joke about someone not being able to spell it correctly...LOL.. Just Kidding.

I knew it started with a "C"...thats more than I can say for Alcano :D

Southpaw
 
On the table, some easy observations..... I look for how a person walks up to a shot and addresses the cueball. I also like to watch a player break, if they are squatting whitey consistantly..... somethings up. Cueball action is something that if the roadie is smart is hidden until its needed, so there is another one.
Off the table.... there is so much bad acting going on it could fill volumes. :D
First "hustler" I ever played was a nice old guy at first. We went back and forth playing bar table 8 ball (I was around 9-10 years old at the time) Then he starts barking at my dad. Well dad had more Budweiser in him than common sense, and went off from like 50 cents a game to 10 bucks a game....... After losing about 50 or 60 bucks to the old bastard, DAD GOT PISSED AT ME!!!!! :D Asked me how I could get hustled like that.....LOL
Oh the childhood bar memories......... :eek: :D
Chuck
 
There are a lot of different types of road players that all act differently, and a lot of guys who can't play that might appear to be road players. I find the best way to find out is just to play them.

I don't get why people are so afraid that the person they are matching up with might be a roadie. These same people will usually play a local in a game they have no chance to win day after day. Are people afraid that roadies have some magical power to get them to bet more than they should?

I welcome the opportunity to play someone new, even if they might run over me. I learn so much more playing someone I've never played before than I do playing the same guys I always play where I can predict 90% of their shots.
 
okinawa77 said:
A lot of the things that have been said, are things I do when I go into a pool hall, but I am not a Road Player. And no where near Road Player skill level. Maybe that is why no one will play any games with me. They must think I am good.

Yesterday, I went to a place in Japan called Flannell. Naoyuki Oi was there, and he wouldn't approach me for the first 4 hours. We started talking and we played a few games. He said I was a good shooter, but I don't think I am. I think I am just an alright shooter. I don't know why, but for some reason people think I am better than I really am. I mean, I can make some really tough shots, but when it comes down to it....I usually don't win sets or matches as often as a high skill level player does.

I guess the fact that I have a cheap Adam cue that is falling apart which I carry in a cloth case, and I usually look around while I'm in the pool hall to see if anyone wants to play, and I usually pick the toughest table in the joint (tightest pockets/9 footers) which is usually the table up front, and I tend to miss the easy shots rather than the hard ones. And I have gotten compliments for having a good stroke. And I usually carry around a wad of hundreds, just in case someone wants to play for money...but I expect to lose money, not win any. I don't flash my money though, but I have a wallet that hold my bills in a money clip. So, whenever I open my wallet, people can see my bills.

So, I guess after reading these tell tale signs of a road player, I should probably do something different. Because after a while, it sucks playing pool by myself. I have gotten used to it, but sometimes it is nice to play a few games with someone. Maybe I should get a shirt that says, "I'm not a Hustler or Road Player, I just love to play pool"......or would that be something a Hustler or Road Player would do???

You should get a shirt that says on the front, "I don't like to gamble for money but some people think I am a really good pool player. On the back it says, "Don't say I didn't warn you". :)
JoeyA
 
Southpaw said:
This is a funny story...about 5 years ago a couple of guys come into the poolroom in Athens, GA. nearing the end of an open tournament. The two guys were American and they had a friend of theirs that was Phillipino who was looking for action. A friend of mine asked the Phillipino guy where he was from, the guy answered, "Conn...ett..icut". My buddy said "spell Conneticut...." and the guy froze like a deer in headlights. Turned out, it was Ronnie Alcano....

Southpaw

Was one of the guys a short stocky guy with a mustache?
 
I love it

What about the guy who comes up and asks to play some cheap $5 or $10 a game. Says he really likes 8 ball but will play 9 ball. Beats you 4 out of every 5 games with a really goofy stroke and makes you feel like your giving the games away because he can only get out when you miss with three, maybe four balls on the table. ;) Fires at the 9 ball a lot and seems to get really lucky when he misses and hooks you. :)
 
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reminds me . . .

Nine Ball said:
seems to get really lucky when he misses and hooks you. :)

Reminds me of a story from years ago. I had a habit of getting lucky with the leaves when I missed a ball. We picked up a new "regular" at the end of the bar for a few nights. Third night he was there, he complimented me on my game. I said something along the lines of "everybody gets some good rolls now and then."

He said, "The first night I thought you were lucky. The second night I still wasn't sure. The third night in a row? Nobody in the world is that lucky!" Never saw him again and never had a clue who he was. He knew a lot of names and had done some traveling but he never mentioned his.

Hu
 
Road players

1) Have very wrinkled shirts.
2) Nurses his first beer forever, or doesn't drink.
3) Uses a rubber band around his money (or his buddy does). Most good players will hide their big roll, and just show 50-60 dollars when paying for something though.
4) Hasn't shaved for 2-3 days.
5) Has worn or kind of beat up sneakers.
6) Asks who the best players in town are.
7) Tries to get next to a local fast, joking around a lot.
8) Tries to appear as a working man that just lives 30 miles away, and doesn't get into 'town' very much.
9) Never carries a cue in to begin with, until the game is made.
 
Southpaw said:
This is a funny story...about 5 years ago a couple of guys come into the poolroom in Athens, GA. nearing the end of an open tournament. The two guys were American and they had a friend of theirs that was Phillipino who was looking for action. A friend of mine asked the Phillipino guy where he was from, the guy answered, "Conn...ett..icut". My buddy said "spell Conneticut...." and the guy froze like a deer in headlights. Turned out, it was Ronnie Alcano....

Southpaw

Yeah I was there. Ronnie was going by the name 'Tom' except when you called him that he didnt respond cause he just couldnt remember his 'name'.
 
In the game of Rotation..

..the guy's first shot is a miscue, and then..

..he's missing the lowest numbered ball but fluking them stripes (fyi, it's not a fluke) and then continue on with that funny bridge..

..miscues again coz he forgets to chalk and makes sure you are aware that he forgot to chalk up.

..and if he consistently misses a spot shot about 4-5 inches thick on the head rail, makes the ball two rails down the corner where he is closest to and utters "hehe.. i got lucky" that to me is a very clear sign..

if you ever get to the point in a match when you see these signs, it's too late.. you've been fished.


JoeyA said:
In honor of hang-the-nine, I was wondering what the responses might be for quickly spotting a top player who is unknown.

One thing that is hard for top players (road players) to disguise is a good stroke.

The first thing that I look at is what the possible road player is looking at when he comes in the door or sits at the bar. That can tell you a lot about what the person's interest is.

Any other things that help you spot a road player?

JoeyA
 
License plates??

Smorgass Bored said:
In most of the rooms or bars/lounges that I made my home base, I (and most other regulars) knew everyone. Since many roadplayers traveled with someone (usually a shortstop) to share driving, expenses, action, etc., we always looked out for strangers coming in minutes apart.

We also kept an eye/ear out for out of state license plates and accents. Few roadplayers ever actually snuck up on us, as we were a very alert/wary group of players... imo :)
D.

Hmmm,,:rolleyes: License plates:cool: accents:eek: guess I need to take a cab from now on and not talk to anybody:D :D ...
 
dead giveaway

Seeing one of these nearby: (And someone complaining they can't reach the shot)
 

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