I like to have two identical (as possible) shafts, have had the tip fly off and without the backup wouldn't have any option but to grab a wallabushka.
Give me the real story on having two shafts for a cue
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Spare shaft
If you don't use the spare shaft and you take care of the Butt and decide to sale the cue/
You will be selling a used cue that looks new with one unused shaft that hopefully still straight.
There is no better cue, its stay straight and has held up over the years and resale should be close to what you paid for the cue.. If you got the custom cue at a descent price.
For a long time I repaired cues, then started to make shafts and now I produce a couple of cues a year.
I have at least four matched shafts for my main player, and have another couple hand full of shaft that fit my main player.
I am not a world beater. different size of shafts don't really bother me.
Doesn't bother me to adjust to different tips either.
I like hitting center cue ball or close to center cue ball and that is my first steps in setting up my aim and stroke
So switching shafts and tips have little effect on my game ..
One shaft that I have loaned out at the time I put a clear plastic tip on it to practice hitting center cue ball .
Its deadly if you are not hitting exact center cue ball, the cue ball with deflect.
You look like some idiot that cant hit $hit. :thumbup:
On the other shafts I have different tip on each one .
Kamui, ultra skin , triangle . 4th shafts has clear plastic tip.
I can let a future customer who doesn't know what tip they want try out my cue with different tips to see which one they like the most.
Ps I am making and selling shafts solid maple and non laminated LD shafts 3/8x 10
3/8x11.
If you don't use the spare shaft and you take care of the Butt and decide to sale the cue/
You will be selling a used cue that looks new with one unused shaft that hopefully still straight.
There is no better cue, its stay straight and has held up over the years and resale should be close to what you paid for the cue.. If you got the custom cue at a descent price.
For a long time I repaired cues, then started to make shafts and now I produce a couple of cues a year.
I have at least four matched shafts for my main player, and have another couple hand full of shaft that fit my main player.
I am not a world beater. different size of shafts don't really bother me.
Doesn't bother me to adjust to different tips either.
I like hitting center cue ball or close to center cue ball and that is my first steps in setting up my aim and stroke
So switching shafts and tips have little effect on my game ..
One shaft that I have loaned out at the time I put a clear plastic tip on it to practice hitting center cue ball .
Its deadly if you are not hitting exact center cue ball, the cue ball with deflect.
You look like some idiot that cant hit $hit. :thumbup:
On the other shafts I have different tip on each one .
Kamui, ultra skin , triangle . 4th shafts has clear plastic tip.
I can let a future customer who doesn't know what tip they want try out my cue with different tips to see which one they like the most.
Ps I am making and selling shafts solid maple and non laminated LD shafts 3/8x 10
3/8x11.
For me the question would be Why not?? An extra shaft makes the cue worth more in the long run. When I started playing in the early '70s I never saw a player order a cue with one shaft. The thought at the time was losing a tip from one shaft in a tournament or a money game you had a back up. Nowadays with glue being better it's often on the chance of a shaft being dented with no cue repair person around. I've almost always oredered/bought with two shafts and always will.
Edit: There is a school of thought that not playing with one shaft makes it easier to sell the cue. I've never found that to be true, though, in all the years I've played. I've never had a problem selling a quality cue and I play with both shafts alternately. Always will.
Edit: There is a school of thought that not playing with one shaft makes it easier to sell the cue. I've never found that to be true, though, in all the years I've played. I've never had a problem selling a quality cue and I play with both shafts alternately. Always will.
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I haven't seen this one - wow!
I'll give you 5 reasons
1. Tip
2. Tip
3. Tip
4. Tip
5. Tip
It's the most important thing you own, and when it fails you are screwed....unless that other shaft is waiting ready to go. :smile:
Once when the change of whether was coming through, I was having some trouble getting control of my draw shots.
I switched to a shaft with a medium tip from the one with the soft tip.
The control was there immediately.
I know I would have gotten it under control with the other shaft/tip, but why wait & play not up to snuff when a quick change fixed it.
For me it's versatility. Like has been said, no two shafts are exactly alike & neither are two tips.
Best 2 All.
I switched to a shaft with a medium tip from the one with the soft tip.
The control was there immediately.
I know I would have gotten it under control with the other shaft/tip, but why wait & play not up to snuff when a quick change fixed it.
For me it's versatility. Like has been said, no two shafts are exactly alike & neither are two tips.
Best 2 All.
excellent example, PT. hahahaha, Mike got some style points for that one!I had in mind the one where Earl broke his shaft by slapping the ground, but couldn't find it.
Good one, sir!
Dave
There is more.....we know Earl is passionate...
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...7b67C0QJwpmoOcDJQ&sig2=WU2tbWsHMfNfjGsXzf9UNg
...and so is Johnny....but in this case, the cue had a weakness also..the Schon he
used in the 90s would've withstood this pressure.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...h6cSchfAVw4G7pOyg&sig2=lI2-CeTNyvceWbQaSMY_KA
Thanks everyone for weighing in. I can see that it is a no brainer to many about having a second shaft.
You are the best, that's exactly what was in my mind for Earl!
I have never used the second shaft but enjoy having it for whatever reason. Shaft A might lose a tip or get sent out for service(refinish...remove dings, etc). I'd rather have one than not.
I think the main reason I want more than one shaft is that even with the same dimensions,
shafts hit differently....it gives you the option of a hit more suited to you.
I had snooker cues made for me in the late 70s...two butts and seven shafts....
..one shaft belonged on the light butt...and one shaft belonged on the heavy butt..
....the other five were practice shafts.
...and these seven shafts were all hand-picked by me before hand.
I can't always order what I want...I gotta FIND what I want.
shafts hit differently....it gives you the option of a hit more suited to you.
I had snooker cues made for me in the late 70s...two butts and seven shafts....
..one shaft belonged on the light butt...and one shaft belonged on the heavy butt..
....the other five were practice shafts.
...and these seven shafts were all hand-picked by me before hand.
I can't always order what I want...I gotta FIND what I want.
West Texan
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I had the spare for the tip issue. Had thought about putting a soft tip on one and medium tip on the other for different places, heavy or lighter cue balls, but have decided it doesn't make a whole lot of difference
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I have several cues that have 4 shafts, different tapers, one 30" shaft, different ferrules. It's options. If you love how the shaft you have now plays & you get a second one made it is almost sure to play differently, it may be subtle, maybe extreme but it will be different & you might like it more than what you currently have. End of the day, it's about options
After seeing Mike, Johnny and Earl break their cues, I can't stop laughing .
These guys are the best of the best. I quess even the best loss it.
Here's the reason why.......and some of my cues have 3 shafts.
If you ever damage your cue shaft, by accident whether you or another person caused it, you have a brand new shaft to switch to.
I also like having an extra shafts in case I ever had to leave one with a repair person for a tip replacement. I still have another shaft to play with.
Having shafts that include a popular size, like 13mm, makes it easier to sell the cue and at the same time, you can also have a smaller shaft like 12.75mm to use. That's a great combination to have if you like playing with shafts smaller than 13mm. I've since settled on 12.75mm whereas in the past, I'd typically have ordered 13mm &12.75mm shafts.
Sometimes a player wants a shaft for a particular game. I like to play 3 cushion and snooker and my 13mm & 12.75mm shafts are a little thick for those games. I'd prefer to use a 12.25mm shaft but I wouldn't to play with that shaft for pool. Ergo, I order extra shafts and 2 of my cues have 3 shafts........the 3rd shafts are my billiard & snooker cue shafts.
My basic orientation is to always have a back-up.... grocery & cleaning items, sports equipment, etc.and pool balls & pool cues are no exception. I keep a brand new set of Centennials on the shelf whilst I play with another different set of Centennial pool balls. Cues only need one shaft to function and surely that's all that's required. However, if you order a custom, you might as adhere to "in for a penny in for a pound" and order the cue with a 2nd shaft ........JMO.
Matt B.
If you ever damage your cue shaft, by accident whether you or another person caused it, you have a brand new shaft to switch to.
I also like having an extra shafts in case I ever had to leave one with a repair person for a tip replacement. I still have another shaft to play with.
Having shafts that include a popular size, like 13mm, makes it easier to sell the cue and at the same time, you can also have a smaller shaft like 12.75mm to use. That's a great combination to have if you like playing with shafts smaller than 13mm. I've since settled on 12.75mm whereas in the past, I'd typically have ordered 13mm &12.75mm shafts.
Sometimes a player wants a shaft for a particular game. I like to play 3 cushion and snooker and my 13mm & 12.75mm shafts are a little thick for those games. I'd prefer to use a 12.25mm shaft but I wouldn't to play with that shaft for pool. Ergo, I order extra shafts and 2 of my cues have 3 shafts........the 3rd shafts are my billiard & snooker cue shafts.
My basic orientation is to always have a back-up.... grocery & cleaning items, sports equipment, etc.and pool balls & pool cues are no exception. I keep a brand new set of Centennials on the shelf whilst I play with another different set of Centennial pool balls. Cues only need one shaft to function and surely that's all that's required. However, if you order a custom, you might as adhere to "in for a penny in for a pound" and order the cue with a 2nd shaft ........JMO.
Matt B.
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For me personally I like having more than one shaft for:
1. One shaft feels better that the other.
2. I don't have to visit the cue tip installer as often (its 30 miles away).
3. I might feel like I want to "change" shafts to just play with something different.
1. One shaft feels better that the other.
2. I don't have to visit the cue tip installer as often (its 30 miles away).
3. I might feel like I want to "change" shafts to just play with something different.
If having your own cue is something you deem necessary, then an extra shaft is a no brainer, imo.
Should one shadt fail, you want to change cues, or shafts?
Should one shadt fail, you want to change cues, or shafts?
A few considerations and observations:
Your shaft will decrease in diameter each time it is cleaned. If done correctly, it won't be that much of a loss, but over the long run, it will eventually get thin. How many shafts are out there that started out life as 13 mm and are now 12.2 mm or less?
You have shaft collars made out of phenolic that changes color from lot to lot and even within the same lot. If you want a shaft to match the cue it was made for, the time to order the second shaft is at the time of the build. This will yield the closest match of phenolic and matching rings for the cue.
If you have a cue built, it is not guaranteed that the maker will be around when it comes time to buy a second shaft. There are tons of makers that are no longer alive and you may be left with a cue that is worth a lot of money but with small shafts. You will not be able to sell the cue for as much as if it had good shafts.
Often times the extra shaft is cheaper at the time of build than it would be to buy it years later. There are a lot of makers out there that you can't buy a shaft from for the same money as you could 10-15 years ago.
Your shaft will decrease in diameter each time it is cleaned. If done correctly, it won't be that much of a loss, but over the long run, it will eventually get thin. How many shafts are out there that started out life as 13 mm and are now 12.2 mm or less?
You have shaft collars made out of phenolic that changes color from lot to lot and even within the same lot. If you want a shaft to match the cue it was made for, the time to order the second shaft is at the time of the build. This will yield the closest match of phenolic and matching rings for the cue.
If you have a cue built, it is not guaranteed that the maker will be around when it comes time to buy a second shaft. There are tons of makers that are no longer alive and you may be left with a cue that is worth a lot of money but with small shafts. You will not be able to sell the cue for as much as if it had good shafts.
Often times the extra shaft is cheaper at the time of build than it would be to buy it years later. There are a lot of makers out there that you can't buy a shaft from for the same money as you could 10-15 years ago.
I have 2 WX700 shafts for my Mezz, one with a Kamui Black Medium and one with a Kamui Black Soft. Some days I play better with soft, other days with medium.
Another reason I have had two shafts is that I can keep my current favorite tip on one and experiment with different tips on the other.
Another reason I have had two shafts is that I can keep my current favorite tip on one and experiment with different tips on the other.
why 2 shafts for 1 cue
from what i have seen its a good excuse on days when ur hitting them bad :thumbup:
from what i have seen its a good excuse on days when ur hitting them bad :thumbup: