giving away or selling a defective cue

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I just finished a beatiful cue the other day that turned out great. After a few days I went to install a leather wrap and notice a slight warp at the A-joint. I just figured I would cut my losses and use it as my personal break cue and be able to at least show off how my leather wrap turned out to potential customers. A fellow pool player and freind fell in love with the cue. After showing him the warp while rolling it on a pool table and explaing why I would never sell it to anyone he instisted he did not care and wanted to buy it at a reduced price. I don't really like the idea of having a warped cue out there but he insist he does not care and would not advertise it to anyone as being warped. What are your thoughts on my situation. I have thought about just giving to him or sell it for a couple hundred bucks but that still does not resolve my worries of people looking at it as defective work.

Thanks for your opinions.
 
josie said:
I just finished a beatiful cue the other day that turned out great. After a few days I went to install a leather wrap and notice a slight warp at the A-joint. I just figured I would cut my losses and use it as my personal break cue and be able to at least show off how my leather wrap turned out to potential customers. A fellow pool player and freind fell in love with the cue. After showing him the warp while rolling it on a pool table and explaing why I would never sell it to anyone he instisted he did not care and wanted to buy it at a reduced price. I don't really like the idea of having a warped cue out there but he insist he does not care and would not advertise it to anyone as being warped. What are your thoughts on my situation. I have thought about just giving to him or sell it for a couple hundred bucks but that still does not resolve my worries of people looking at it as defective work.

Thanks for your opinions.
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Don't sell it. Do you know why it went off? Finding out what happened is more value to you then selling the cue. If you sell it at some point this cue will be representing you in public maybe three owners down the line and you will be bad mouthed. There is no up side to selling it beyond you getting a few dollars in your pocket now. When you say no that should be it, it is not a debate, if he doesn't like it, too bad.
 
josie said:
I just finished a beatiful cue the other day that turned out great. After a few days I went to install a leather wrap and notice a slight warp at the A-joint. I just figured I would cut my losses and use it as my personal break cue and be able to at least show off how my leather wrap turned out to potential customers. A fellow pool player and freind fell in love with the cue. After showing him the warp while rolling it on a pool table and explaing why I would never sell it to anyone he instisted he did not care and wanted to buy it at a reduced price. I don't really like the idea of having a warped cue out there but he insist he does not care and would not advertise it to anyone as being warped. What are your thoughts on my situation. I have thought about just giving to him or sell it for a couple hundred bucks but that still does not resolve my worries of people looking at it as defective work.

Thanks for your opinions.
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I'll take it....:grin: Send it this way..
 
macguy said:
Don't sell it. Do you know why it went off? Finding out what happened is more value to you then selling the cue. If you sell it at some point this cue will be representing you in public maybe three owners down the line and you will be bad mouthed. There is no up side to selling it beyond you getting a few dollars in your pocket now. When you say no that should be it, it is not a debate, if he doesn't like it, too bad.
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My guess it moved because it was a highly figured piece of birseye maple that I did not core or splice points into. I think what I learned from this is to core highy figured woods especially if there are no points to act as another lamination in the forearm. The funny thing is it did not move until it sat a month in a case. I used jatoba for the handle which is very stable. I had an earlier cue move on me after a few months but then straightened out again the next time I checked it. One thing I thought of later was that it was the same time of year when it straightened out as it was built and could be different humidities for the time of year(just a guess). It is my personal playing cue and has stayed straight every time after that when I checked it. The movement I am talking about is minimal where you can see it on a lathe and barely see anything rolling it on a table.
 
start a leasing division and lease it to him.100.00 deposit and 10.00 a month for 36 month.at the end he can buy it or turn it in.also he can cancel the lease at any time.

bill
 
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I always have wanted to have a "picture" box that shows how a cue is put together (similar to what Gus did in that interview - except in a case you could hang on the wall). From the bumper to the tip - just not glued together. Has anyone ever done this?

Chris
 
My opinion is: Don't sell it, don't give it away, and don't use it for your player. Keep it as a souvenir if you like, maybe in a collection on things that didn't work.
We all have heard the story of the best auto mechanic that they ever knew who drove the rattiest car around but I believe a cuemaker and his craft is judged by the shooting stick that he uses. Not only that but your personal shooter is also one of the best means to get new business locally when your just deciding to hit a few balls in a pool room. I sure wouldn't want to give a stick to a potential customer to 'test drive' knowing that it had a roll to it. Even the excuse of "I know it's got a roll in it, and I wouldn't sell it, but I kept it to shoot with" doesn't have a good ring to it in my book. Long story short, I think seconds or defects that are placed in the public's eye will always haunt you.

Please no flames, it's gonna be hot enough where I'm going,
Alan
 
Cut it in half now. I have only let one out of the shop. The cue was sound but the inlays had glue lines. I finished the cue thinking I would put it on the wall in my home room for my friends to use. I covered my logo before finishing as I did not want my name on it. Fast forward 2 years, I ended up giving it to the counterman at my local poolhall as he needed a cue and did not have any money. I told him he could not sell it and it comes back to me if he ever does not want it. Well, it ended up in the hands of another person about a year later after he quit working. now I don't have an issue with him having it other than the fact that it should have never been given to him in the first place. Now I am just waitng to see who ends up with it next.
I will never let another one out like that.
 
Run the Century said:
I always have wanted to have a "picture" box that shows how a cue is put together (similar to what Gus did in that interview - except in a case you could hang on the wall). From the bumper to the tip - just not glued together. Has anyone ever done this?

Chris
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I recently made something like this for my new poolroom :)
 

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Hi, just curious about this thread. My new cue, when i roll the butt, the joint side or the forearm wobble, meaning it doesn't stay flat on the surface (going up and down). Is this what you mean defective? If i compare this to my predator, the butt rolls perfect.

Is this will affect the playability of the cue?
 
The_Marvelous said:
Hi, just curious about this thread. My new cue, when i roll the butt, the joint side or the forearm wobble, meaning it doesn't stay flat on the surface (going up and down). Is this what you mean defective? If i compare this to my predator, the butt rolls perfect.

Is this will affect the playability of the cue?
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I personally don't think it will affect the playability of your cue but I also think you deserve a straight cue when you purchase one. Did you buy the cue new from a maker or is it a production cue? When I first started experimenting with cue building I played with a few "bent" cues and played as good as I do with a straight one.
 
If you would not be ashamed to have everyone in a pool-hall roll it across a table and comment on the warp, then by all means give or sell it to your friend.
Rest assured said friend may let someone else hold it, resulting in its warp showing up...
Disassemble it to learn why it is warped. It may be something that may show up later in another cue after it has left the nest. Better to know your cues will stand the test of time.
 
josie said:
I just finished a beatiful cue the other day that turned out great. After a few days I went to install a leather wrap and notice a slight warp at the A-joint. I just figured I would cut my losses and use it as my personal break cue and be able to at least show off how my leather wrap turned out to potential customers. A fellow pool player and freind fell in love with the cue. After showing him the warp while rolling it on a pool table and explaing why I would never sell it to anyone he instisted he did not care and wanted to buy it at a reduced price. I don't really like the idea of having a warped cue out there but he insist he does not care and would not advertise it to anyone as being warped. What are your thoughts on my situation. I have thought about just giving to him or sell it for a couple hundred bucks but that still does not resolve my worries of people looking at it as defective work.

Thanks for your opinions.
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I would personally fix it or cut it up on the Band saw, I would never let a defective cue leave my possession defective. Every cue we build represents us and once a defective cue leaves our possession we never know who will get it and what that can lead to.

JIMO
 
JoeyInCali said:
Keep it as your player.
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If he did this and someone comes up to his cue as it lays on a table and goes "Hey, this is Josie's cue, he made it." Then they roll it to look at the inlays or whatever. FLOP FLOP FLOP They'll be going hmmm. I would find what part is warped, forearm or handle and just replace it.
 
Craig Fales said:
If he did this and someone comes up to his cue as it lays on a table and goes "Hey, this is Josie's cue, he made it." Then they roll it to look at the inlays or whatever. FLOP FLOP FLOP They'll be going hmmm. I would find what part is warped, forearm or handle and just replace it.
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That's easy.
Sign the cue George Bubka in the forearm.
 
I'm not a cue maker. But in this case I'll respond. Some of us people (like me). Would gladly pay for it at a reduced price. I would require you take all references to you from the cue. I would not tell anyone where it came from. I'd tell them I got it from E-Bay or something. But that's me. I can't afford too many customs. But would love to have a cue like that. I'm sure it plays fantastic. I also would not let it out of my hands. I'd make that a promise. I do NOT break promises. I would be proud to own a cue like that.

BTW I work as a technician at a Dodge dealer. And I do understand your position. I never like to send anything out the door I would not trust my family in. I hope you find a solution to your delemma.

Mark Shuman
 
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