Gold Crown 4 pocket size and angle? Including sides!?!

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Sean Hallett

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I'm trying to find out what the original pocket sizes and angles are for a Gold Crown 4, can anybody help me out? I've managed to find these on the TDF thread but obviously it doesn't mention side pockets

mfinkelstein3 - 9':1.00, 5 1/8":0.88, 7/8":1.03, 1 1/2": 0.97 - 0.88 (GC III)
StraightPoolIU - 9':1.00, 4 7/8":0.91, 3/4":1.02, 1 1/4":0.95 - 0.88 (GC I)

So out of them 2 examples the corners are 5 1/8 and 4 7/8". What size would the side pocket be in relation to each of them? And what angle/ mouth throat difference for the sides?

Before anyone asks I do want the original size and I don't want to tighten it up right now. I'm from the UK so I can only get snooker table fitters to put the new cushions on when my table arrives tomorrow. They probably don't know the exact size so I could really do with some input please
 
And I'll add that I have serious doubts the GC pockets were cut with any measureable degree of concern for accurate/ consistent angles.
 
I've just read that side pockets are always 1/2 inch bigger than corner pockets.
Now I just need to find out if a Gold Crown 4 is 5 1/8 or 4 7/8" in the corners. I know they have the same difficulty because of the angle difference but how do you think each one plays? Rail shots easier on 4 7/8 because of angle and other shots easier on 5 1/8" because bigger pocket?
 
Sean Hallett...It makes no difference!

1) Get table (already done).

2) Get table set up by a competent mechanic (happening soon).

3) Play on table...preferably for several hours, or at least several days.

4) Enjoy yourself!

You have a good table. Quit worrying about minutia and just play! Aim for the middle of the pocket, and the ball will go in (provided you hit the correct speed). :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Sean Hallett said:
I've just read that side pockets are always 1/2 inch bigger than corner pockets.
Now I just need to find out if a Gold Crown 4 is 5 1/8 or 4 7/8" in the corners. I know they have the same difficulty because of the angle difference but how do you think each one plays? Rail shots easier on 4 7/8 because of angle and other shots easier on 5 1/8" because bigger pocket?
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Scott Lee said:
Sean Hallett...It makes no difference!

1) Get table (already done).

2) Get table set up by a competent mechanic (happening soon).

3) Play on table...preferably for several hours, or at least several days.

4) Enjoy yourself!

You have a good table. Quit worrying about minutia and just play! Aim for the middle of the pocket, and the ball will go in (provided you hit the correct speed). :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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The problem is that i'm not going to get a mechanic where I am who understands US tables. They are really good snooker table fitters but they are relaying on me for pocket sizes and angles etc. I'm just not sure which of them 2 examples would normally be found on a Gold Crown 4?
 
garczar said:
Standard GC's are almost always 4&3/4" and tournament is 4.5" corners. Again, put this in the "Ask a Mechanic" section here on AZ. You'll get more/quicker answers.
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I've never seen a GC that was not modified being that tight. 5" to 5 1/8" is more like it.

To the OP, if you go to my table specs on the TDF page, I have an original GC4, with the original pockets. I got it from a private owner, it was never inside a pool room, and only had 2 recloths before I bought it. So the measurements on mine is probably pretty good.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I've never seen a GC that was not modified being that tight. 5" to 5 1/8" is more like it.

To the OP, if you go to my table specs on the TDF page, I have an original GC4, with the original pockets. I got it from a private owner, it was never inside a pool room, and only had 2 recloths before I bought it. So the measurements on mine is probably pretty good.
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Thanks for the info. :thumbup:
 
Sean Hallett said:
I'm trying to find out what the original pocket sizes and angles are for a Gold Crown 4, can anybody help me out? I've managed to find these on the TDF thread but obviously it doesn't mention side pockets

mfinkelstein3 - 9':1.00, 5 1/8":0.88, 7/8":1.03, 1 1/2": 0.97 - 0.88 (GC III)
StraightPoolIU - 9':1.00, 4 7/8":0.91, 3/4":1.02, 1 1/4":0.95 - 0.88 (GC I)

So out of them 2 examples the corners are 5 1/8 and 4 7/8". What size would the side pocket be in relation to each of them? And what angle/ mouth throat difference for the sides?

Before anyone asks I do want the original size and I don't want to tighten it up right now. I'm from the UK so I can only get snooker table fitters to put the new cushions on when my table arrives tomorrow. They probably don't know the exact size so I could really do with some input please
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For the pocket angles, use 102 degrees for the sides and 141 degrees for the corners.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I've never seen a GC that was not modified being that tight. 5" to 5 1/8" is more like it.

To the OP, if you go to my table specs on the TDF page, I have an original GC4, with the original pockets. I got it from a private owner, it was never inside a pool room, and only had 2 recloths before I bought it. So the measurements on mine is probably pretty good.
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Stock GC4 has 5" corner pockets and 5 1/2" sides.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I've never seen a GC that was not modified being that tight. 5" to 5 1/8" is more like it.

To the OP, if you go to my table specs on the TDF page, I have an original GC4, with the original pockets. I got it from a private owner, it was never inside a pool room, and only had 2 recloths before I bought it. So the measurements on mine is probably pretty good.
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That is really helpful! I wasn't sure what version it was but I will copy them specs
 
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