Gold Crown VI

Biloxi Boy

Man With A Golden Arm
Anyone bought, or played on extensively, a new Gold Crown VI? Not interested in value analysis, comparison to Diamonds, etc. Not concerned with where the parts are made or the tables assembled. I am simply trying to determine the quality of the tables themselves -- do they play or not. As always, thank you all for the benefit of your experience and knowledge.
 
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He will be #1 on my mechanics list. I've been working on finding "the right" (later "any") table mechanic for at least 6 months to no avail -- tough sledding.
 
In an area rife with uncertainty, I am quite certain that a capable table mechanic is the key to success. I love where I live, but living in paradise does exact a price when it comes to some things that you cats on the other two coasts take for granted. I am certain that, sooner or later, I am going to find a jam up mechanic, but I am having to shake some trees to find him, or her. No doubt I will have to pay someone to travel, but I am certainly prepared to foot the bill for what I need. On the other hand, as lagniappe, my job will have all the boat fresh shrimp one can stand.
This is 1000% accurate. I learned the hard way with my table install. Sounds like you got the coin to drop on what ever you want. Not sure if you have played on 9ft diamonds, the blue labels, but they have diff rails and they bank solid imo. Good luck though with whatever you decide. RKC could likely recommend some good installers. David Isaac's is my mechanic now, RKC approved. He does legit work.
 
Hell, i drove 4hrs once just to check out a Browning Superposed o/u shotgun. Didn't end up buying but i had to see it in person. Granted there weren't phones with hi-def cameras then but i wasn't going to drop that kinda coin without seeing/holding the gun.
Diana?
 
Hi,

I’ve had a GC6 Tournament Edition with Simonis 860 for about 1 yr now. I wrestled with the BW/Diamond/Rasson question like many do. In the end the desire to have a part of the Americana I grew up with in my home and a personal preference for the looks/feel of the GC drove my decision. It looks and plays great, and I’m quite happy with it. Construction & feature wise I believe it to be on par or better than GC4’s. I’ve never seen a GC5, but IMO each generation of GC made subtle improvements.

There are minor issues with fit & finish of the pocket/casting hardware, but these are truly minor. However, can be a bit psychologically annoying in context of a $10k ish premium product when compared to a new Diamond. This thread & this thread both have quite useful & detailed feedback that I think would be worth your time.

Since I started playing pool again after decades away, I have now played on a lot of different GC and Diamonds and become much more educated on table issues. As many people will tell you, if you want a BW to really be top notch then you really need to have a good/experienced table tech set it up for you. I think Diamonds design is simply better in this regard - it appears that Diamond's rail/frame design are setup to tighter tolerances at the factory and final assembly of the table is more "plug&play", doesn't require as much care and precision by the installer, which results in a product that requires less complexity to deliver and setup and final assembled fit/finish/specs are more consistent. BW appears to have more variance in their pocket sizes/angles and literally have more moving parts. Practical examples; when you order a Diamond Pro Cut - regardless of who sets it up - for the most part you will get 4.5" pockets and 141° pocket facing angles which makes for a very nice crisp pro level table that is plenty tough and perfectly within WPA specs, but order a GC6/TE and you might end up with pockets anywhere from 4.25-4.5" and 141-143° PFAs. These variances can really affect play - mine ended up with pockets in a range of 4.25-4.35" & 143-144° and it plays super, super tough, tougher than several other CG/Diamonds with much smaller mouths in the 4.0-4.25" zone. Especially on a new table with fresh rail rubber and fast cloth - its super touchy, essentially if the OB touches a rail or hits a facing with too much speed it's just not going in. I wanted a really crisp table, but it's really much more frustrating than I had intended and quite miserable for casual players.

A good analogy for the BW/Diamond thing may be comparing a 1911 pistol to a Walther or CZ. If you're shooting USPSA type stuff and want a 1911 to run really smooth and accurate, you'll need an expert to hand tune it (Les Baer, Wilson, etc) - whereas pretty much any Walther, CZ, or even Glock will just work great out of the box. I'm not a car guy, but I guess it might be also like comparing a vintage muscle car to a modern japanese sports car.

Anyway I think you'll be happy with any new GC6, but since you want the "GC to end all tables", I think you should try to nail down what you really want in terms of pocket specs (very personal decision, no "right" answer, there are other AZB threads on that, we all have our own opinions and use cases for home tables) and get in touch with a knowledgeable table tech to get their inputs and a relationship established first, before ordering the table. If you don't have one local, consider working with one of the well known ones to travel to you; it's only money :cool:

Hope this helps and good luck on your journey.
How deep is the shelf in the corner?
 
I was going to suggest Mark Gregory as well. I had Mark build some Walnut pro-cut rails for my Anniversary and they turned out great. Jack Zimmerman also did my original rails in stock specs, and those are great to. You can’t go wrong with either of those guys. Jerimy Chambers up in the Chicago area is another great option.
 
Speakezy in Sanford, NC can display the magic of Mark Gregory on all of their Gold Crowns. Super good dude owns the place as well. I highly recommend it as a stop if any of y'all are anywhere close to being in the area or as a reason for being in the area.

Keith
 
Speakezy in Sanford, NC can display the magic of Mark Gregory on all of their Gold Crowns. Super good dude owns the place as well. I highly recommend it as a stop if any of y'all are anywhere close to being in the area or as a reason for being in the area.

Keith
Nice to know. I go to Charlotte a few times a year and often stop in Raleigh and Greensboro to see friends on the way. I guess I'll be telling my Greensboro friend he can go fok himself and meet me in Sanford!
 
Anyone bought, or played on extensively, a new Gold Crown VI? Not interested in value analysis, comparison to Diamonds, etc. Not concerned with where the parts are made or the tables assembled. I am simply trying to determine the quality of the tables themselves -- do they play or not. As always, thank you all for the benefit of your experience and knowledge.
I stumbled upon this thread which might be of use to you.

 
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