Golf versus Pool

Tennesseejoe

Tennesseejoe

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A couple evenings ago I went to JOBs pool hall in Nashville. My usual place to play, A relatively nice place with 30 well kept Diamonds, good food, drinks, great cue repair shop and pool equipment sales. It has a lot of good league play and a place to get a game if you want. A very friendly and safe place to play. A 40 year old business that is really laid out nice but could use a little updating. It can get a little smoky but in all they try to keep the air clean. I really would like to see the smokers be more respectful but this is not about smokers. I just wanted to give a visual of the business,

I find it amusing that male pool players always seem to wear black or dark clothing or something very dreary looking. Unkempt. Many of the printed shirts have slogans like 'Pool players do it with balls' or some other degrading statement. Of the 70 guys only 2 wore something colorful. But going to a golf course guys seem to dress to impress. They are ALWAYS very clean, colorful, and neat. Even skate boarders seem to be colorful. This is not a complaint, just an observation. I wonder if possible sponsors get the same impression?
 
Nice post. There's nothing really wrong here, but as a group, pool players tend to show less self respect than would seem desirable. It shows up in their attire and their behavior, and few of them seem bothered by it. Professional players are as careless as the amateurs when it comes to showing self respect.

Far too many pool players are happy to re-enforce the negative image that pool has, to its own detriment, failed to shed, and yet they always wonder why they lack greater sponsorship. There's a reason that Rolex and Cadillac sponsor golf and not pool.
 
When I used to play in tournaments I always dressed nice,casual and comfy . I always had the mindset that it can't hurt my game to dress decently. I never put much thought into clothes when I was hitting balls at a local hall.
 
It doesnt matter what image you try to portray. Back in the day that pros wore "tuxedos", pool was still seen as "seedy".

Reminds me of the saying "Put makeup on a pig, it's still a pig"



Does this count as colorful? I mean Who wouldn't love me? I'm a giant glass of beer!
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Tennesseejoe said:
A couple evenings ago I went to JOBs pool hall in Nashville. My usual place to play, A relatively nice place with 30 well kept Diamonds, good food, drinks, great cue repair shop and pool equipment sales. It has a lot of good league play and a place to get a game if you want. A very friendly and safe place to play. A 40 year old business that is really laid out nice but could use a little updating. It can get a little smoky but in all they try to keep the air clean. I really would like to see the smokers be more respectful but this is not about smokers. I just wanted to give a visual of the business,

I find it amusing that male pool players always seem to wear black or dark clothing or something very dreary looking. Unkempt. Many of the printed shirts have slogans like 'Pool players do it with balls' or some other degrading statement. Of the 70 guys only 2 wore something colorful. But going to a golf course guys seem to dress to impress. They are ALWAYS very clean, colorful, and neat. Even skate boarders seem to be colorful. This is not a complaint, just an observation. I wonder if possible sponsors get the same impression?
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Most golf courses have at least a dress code of a collared shirt is one reason. At this point, it’s part of golf culture I think, but not sure what came first the dress code chicken or the collared shirt / no denim egg.

But we had the dress code thread a while ago. I don’t want to re litigate it.
 
Well my High School Class always have my class reunion at this country club in the City where High School is. Strict dress code even when the place is rented for our reunion. Dinner is $125.00/person. NO DEMIM, NO DOCKERS as they are considered denim.

Exclusive Country Club where the elite meet, play golf, have fine dining, and membership when one comes up is pricy.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Well my High School Class always have my class reunion at this country club in the City where High School is. Strict dress code even when the place is rented for our reunion. Dinner is $125.00/person. NO DEMIM, NO DOCKERS as they are considered denim.

Exclusive Country Club where the elite meet, play golf, have fine dining, and membership when one comes up is pricy.
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The problem is pool halls can’t be in the biz of turning people away or being exclusive based on stuff like that. No one is putting up a $100K bond to join a pool club or waiting for someone to die to take their place.

Pool is not an upper crust thing. Nothing wrong with that.
 
JusticeNJ said:
The problem is pool halls can’t be in the biz of turning people away or being exclusive based on stuff like that. No one is putting up a $100K bond to join a pool club or waiting for someone to die to take their place.

Pool is not an upper crust thing. Nothing wrong with that.
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Reason Rolex sponsors Golf, not Pool.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Reason Rolex sponsors Golf, not Pool.
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Yeah, golf and it’s market moves watches. Pool, not so much. At the end of the day, I don’t think this stuff is too complicated. Some pool players might wear Rolexes, but they are not Rolex’s target. Rolex is in the biz of selling its watches and protecting its brand. Pool ain’t it.
 
Kevin Trudeau revitalized the dress with success appeal. In todays world values have changed.

Respecting people and having communication skills places much higher than appearance.

The best way to change the community is to be the change and push for progress you want.

Charlie Williams gets unfair treatment here but his events paid out. Kevin Trudeau was heralded as a hero but he didnt last as long in the community. TAR was well defended on this forum. However that was another investor that left.

You make an interpretation on what is happening.

As for golf versus pool, golf is well played at country clubs with exclusive membership access. Pool is played everywhere and on good and bad equipment.

Status symbols and class segregation still exists. Pool has been ok in the leagues and events I attend.

If someone wants to flex, then pool flexes for the lower and middle class.

The top 1% can have their exclusivity. For me pool will always be for everyone,
Including the haters.

The top 1% or golf is has high visibility because then can afford to dump money. However growing how many kids naturally wanted to play golf. Golf was a way to connect with upper class.
 
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Well my High School Class always have my class reunion at this country club in the City where High School is. Strict dress code even when the place is rented for our reunion. Dinner is $125.00/person. NO DEMIM, NO DOCKERS as they are considered denim.

Exclusive Country Club where the elite meet, play golf, have fine dining, and membership when one comes up is pricy.
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Are shoes required ;)
 
Tennesseejoe said:
A couple evenings ago I went to JOBs pool hall in Nashville. My usual place to play, A relatively nice place with 30 well kept Diamonds, good food, drinks, great cue repair shop and pool equipment sales. It has a lot of good league play and a place to get a game if you want. A very friendly and safe place to play. A 40 year old business that is really laid out nice but could use a little updating. It can get a little smoky but in all they try to keep the air clean. I really would like to see the smokers be more respectful but this is not about smokers. I just wanted to give a visual of the business,

I find it amusing that male pool players always seem to wear black or dark clothing or something very dreary looking. Unkempt. Many of the printed shirts have slogans like 'Pool players do it with balls' or some other degrading statement. Of the 70 guys only 2 wore something colorful. But going to a golf course guys seem to dress to impress. They are ALWAYS very clean, colorful, and neat. Even skate boarders seem to be colorful. This is not a complaint, just an observation. I wonder if possible sponsors get the same impression?
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Went there once. Needed a fkng gas-mask and that's a cigar guy talking. 'A little updating' is being really nice. IMO the place is living off a tired, out-of-date reputation. Glad its still open but it wouldn't my first choice for sure. I agree fully with your thread.
 
sjm said:
Nice post. There's nothing really wrong here, but as a group, pool players tend to show less self respect than would seem desirable. It shows up in their attire and their behavior, and few of them seem bothered by it. Professional players are as careless as the amateurs when it comes to showing self respect.

Far too many pool players are happy to re-enforce the negative image that pool has, to its own detriment, failed to shed, and yet they always wonder why they lack greater sponsorship. There's a reason that Rolex and Cadillac sponsor golf and not pool.
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I prefer Franck Muller and Porsche 😁 No, really
 
Probably won’t see many golfers professional or otherwise all wearing black on a sunny summer day.

It’s been a while since I’ve golfed, but I don’t recall any well dressed people at the local public course I played. Mostly shorts and t-shirts. And everyone was too far away to read what whatever print was on their clothes anyway.

When I caddied at a private club in high school it was always businessmen dressed in slacks and golf shirts. If these guys are shooting pool, it’s not at your local pool hall. They play someplace else. Privately.
 
buckshotshoey said:
It doesnt matter what image you try to portray. Back in the day that pros wore "tuxedos", pool was still seen as "seedy".

Reminds me of the saying "Put makeup on a pig, it's still a pig"



Does this count as colorful? I mean Who wouldn't love me? I'm a giant glass of beer!
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looks like massive boils, like you had huge 3rd degree burns from being out in the sun too long.
 
I don’t have problems with relaxed dress standards at pool halls. That environment is very different from a golf course.

In golf, higher prices and stricter dress codes tend to keep non-golfers out. When my wife and I got back into golf about 10 years ago, we took out memberships at the least expensive public courses. But the cheaper the rounds and more relaxed the standards, the more people come to the course because they are bored and wanted to kill an afternoon even though they never played before. My wife and I can walk a public course in 2H45M if there is nobody in front of us. On those courses in July and August, typical rounds are 4.5-5.5 hours. That means we are standing on the course for 1.5-2.5 hours watching the group ahead of us hitting the ball 20 yards at a time, taking chunks out of the course without repairing their damage, young adult guys acting like they are 14 years old drinking constantly and driving golf carts like they are go-karts, etc. Many times, it sucks the enjoyment out of the day.

We kept changing memberships to better public courses, but the problem remained until we bit the bullet and joined a private club. Our new course is kept in great condition all year. Typical rounds are 3.5 hours. After >130 rounds, only once did it take 4 hours to play 18 holes. The members are generally quite well off. But they are also very good golfers who respect the course and the other people playing around them.
 
buckshotshoey said:
It doesnt matter what image you try to portray. Back in the day that pros wore "tuxedos", pool was still seen as "seedy".

Reminds me of the saying "Put makeup on a pig, it's still a pig"



Does this count as colorful? I mean Who wouldn't love me? I'm a giant glass of beer!
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I like it...it is colorful, humorous, and clean around the collar. You are probably a fun and lively guy to be around...I'll drink one for you tonight.
 
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