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Someone born with both can get an exemption afaic. I wonder if their testosterone levels vary case by case. If that is the case, they may have a difficult time being what their parents chose at birth.

You are correct that the parents are guessing when they decide a child's sex at birth. Often their decision is influenced by which surgery is simpler or cheaper. Maybe by what they want. I don't know if medicine has advanced where they can tell if a child with ambiguous sexual features will identify as a male or female as they get older.

The African runner that had high levels of testosterone without supplementing had no idea she also had male features until a lot of invasive testing and then some higher tech testing than was readily available when she was younger. I feel sorry for her, her problems were caused by a freak of her development before birth, not cheating which I think she was often accused of. Ultimately I think the rights of the many outweigh the rights of a very few. Not her fault that she produced bunches of testosterone, however it isn't her fellow competitors fault either.

The seventy-five cent question is what amount of testosterone was she producing at puberty? It seems that this is when the biggest advantages are gained in body development. A "win at all costs to the athlete" program like the old east german sports programs could heavily supplement testosterone at puberty then not supplement for years before a competition and still gain most of the advantages that being a male would give.

From my current understanding, somebody that is a real or synthetic male at puberty will carry an advantage throughout their typical competitive years if males have an advantage over females in that form of competition. This seems to hold true for forms of competition where people are over the hill at around thirty or earlier. No idea if it holds true for a pool player's entire career which can last decades longer. That is an issue in these discussions. Without a significant group of pool players we look at examples in other areas and assume they correspond. This may or may not be true.

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How about this :). Looking at both the woman and the other. I'd pay money and bet on the real woman in a boxing match.
 
How about this :). Looking at both the woman and the other. I'd pay money and bet on the real woman in a boxing match.
Back in late 90's they had a boxing deal at a indian casino here in Tulsa. Tanya Harding, yeah the kneecapping skater, was on the card. She fought some toothless meth-cook from Ft.Smith. Tanya beat that cow bloody. We laughed our asses off. You could just see the old trailer-trash in Tanya bubbling to the surface. Nothing like a good cat fight. Now, back to our regularly scheduled program. ;)
 
Cherry picking isolated incidents is hardly a systemic problem let alone a problem that should even be on anyone's radar. Your fear of "leftist labels" is mostly a problem within the msm not the lgtbq community. But you have a long history of claiming victim at the hands of liberals. Going after trans people is just the most recent flavor of the month vessel from you. Next month will be some other liberal obsession that you want to cry about.

Grooming is happening predominantly in so called hetero white male environments. Like the church. To suggest that grooming is even a remotely measurable problem within the lgtbq community is laughable.

Never in all my time have I seen you speak out or rail against the church like your hate filled anti gay and anti trans rants we've seen from you over the years. Yet you want to mention grooming... get back to us when you can address the real groomers.

Most of your posts here are so far out on the fringe of the pendulum that its clear your real motive is to smear trans people not reconcile legitimate concerns.
Please post up some quotes from me, supporting my anti-gay stance. If you can find one, I'll apologize for it, if warranted.
I have also never "gone after" a trans person either -another lie by you. We have a trans-woman at our local pool room.
They are always nice to me and are not looking looking for ways to be offended, and everyone treats them and tips them well.
I am not a victim, nor have I ever claimed to be. That is a tactic of the left, projecting your weakness upon others.
Grooming is happening in schools more than churches. That is why there is something like a 3000% increase in children identifying as "other".
I am an atheist and will not defend organized religion when it crosses the line.

End the hijack already. Just message me your next set of false accusations and lies.
I'll message you back with the corrections.
 
Women organizations plan out responses. When women fight it is not as predictable as when men fight.

Usually a man will become aggressive and make the approach.

Women have had generations of training in self defense, politics and psychology.

Your view that you know what a women won't do is outdated. Sometimes women want the man to take something.

In other organizational tactics leaving a honeypot or bait are popular strategies for bullies or aggressive behavior.

How many men have lost their reputation because they were aggressive with women the wrong way?
You're single aren't you?
 
Please post up some quotes from me, supporting my anti-gay stance. If you can find one, I'll apologize for it, if warranted.
I have also never "gone after" a trans person either -another lie by you. We have a trans-woman at our local pool room.
They are always nice to me and are not looking looking for ways to be offended, and everyone treats them and tips them well.
I am not a victim, nor have I ever claimed to be. That is a tactic of the left, projecting your weakness upon others.
Grooming is happening in schools more than churches. That is why there is something like a 3000% increase in children identifying as "other".
I am an atheist and will not defend organized religion when it crosses the line.

End the hijack already. Just message me your next set of false accusations and lies.
I'll message you back with the corrections.
You wouldn't even apologize for the things you've said here in this thread. What in the world would make me think you'd be accountable for any of the other nasty stuff you've spewed here over the years.

You think your rhetoric is acceptable and within bounds then cry cancel culture when people are disgusted by it.

That's the problem.

Grooming has nothing to do with how children identify. Most of it comes from people finally accepting who people are rather someone like you who shams and insults people... forcing them into the closet, hiding or putting on a facade or risked being labeled a groomer like you've done here. Or in some cases worse. Like verbal and physical abuse. Guys on a pool forum screaming at them that they're mentally disabled etc.
 
You wouldn't even apologize for the things you've said here in this thread. What in the world would make me think you'd be accountable for any of the other nasty stuff you've spewed here over the years.

You think your rhetoric is acceptable and within bounds then cry cancel culture when people are disgusted by it.

That's the problem.

Grooming has nothing to do with how children identify. Most of it comes from people finally accepting who people are rather someone like you who shams and insults people... forcing them into the closet, hiding or putting on a facade or risked being labeled a groomer like you've done here. Or in some cases worse. Like verbal and physical abuse. Guys on a pool forum screaming at them that they're mentally disabled etc.
Cool, so no examples. That's what I thought.
More baseless accusations as well. Typical.
Stop quoting me. If you MUST talk to me, send it in a message.
Don't use this board as your diary.
 
well i like self identify. and it should be for all things then.

in this forum we have mods and non mods. i am going to self identify as a mod.

my list of barred posters will be forth coming.
 
Cool, so no examples. That's what I thought.
More baseless accusations as well. Typical.
Stop quoting me. If you MUST talk to me, send it in a message.
Don't use this board as your diary.
Dear Diary,

Today I decided to quote someone. I look forward to doing it again. He wrongly refers to people as groomers while choosing to ignore legitimate groomers in other areas of the world because he’s uncomfortable taking those people to task. Truthfully grooming isn’t a real concern of his more so he was just using buzzwords as a means to disparage innocent people he’s intolerant of.
 
The African runner that had high levels of testosterone without supplementing had no idea she also had male features until a lot of invasive testing and then some higher tech testing than was readily available when she was younger. I feel sorry for her, her problems were caused by a freak of her development before birth, not cheating which I think she was often accused of. Ultimately I think the rights of the many outweigh the rights of a very few. Not her fault that she produced bunches of testosterone, however it isn't her fellow competitors fault either.

The seventy-five cent question is what amount of testosterone was she producing at puberty? It seems that this is when the biggest advantages are gained in body development. A "win at all costs to the athlete" program like the old east german sports programs could heavily supplement testosterone at puberty then not supplement for years before a competition and still gain most of the advantages that being a male would give.

caster semenya from south africa. born male without knowing it. semenya has internal testicles, XY chromosomes and the testosterone levels of a man. bit of a sad story that, there's nothing indicating semenya was aware of her gender during childhood. growing up in SA is probably rough even without those freak circumstances. career has been unsuccessful after the new hormone regulations that came about 6-7 years ago
 
well i like self identify. and it should be for all things then.

in this forum we have mods and non mods. i am going to self identify as a mod.

my list of barred posters will be forth coming.

If you are gonna be a bear, be a big bear! Identify as owner/admin.

Hu
 
well i like self identify. and it should be for all things then.

in this forum we have mods and non mods. i am going to self identify as a mod.

my list of barred posters will be forth coming.
Anytime someone attacks gender identity to mock it can’t turn around and act like they’re treating people equally and with any kind of humanity.

The very premise of your comment is to trivialize someone’s existence and downplay their value as nothing more than something to joke about.
 
If you dig into some of the early sales brochures for Brunswick Balke Collendar there is a blurb that describes women in pool. It was being normalized back in the teens as a game for men or women.

there is a blurb in there that basically says the woman should get good at pool so she can spend time with the men and play pool together. They were trying to influence the sport back then and normalize women playing it, because some viewed pool as a gambling mans sport and it had some ties that made certain members of the public, shun pool halls.

i think BBC realized saw that encouraging women,
reduced the "dark opinion" of pool and wanted to change public opinion. there are a lot of pictures of beautiful women in dresses playing pool ffrom that era.

towards the end of that particular blurb it said something to the effect that women should get good at pool but never to get better than their man otherwise it would cause bad feelings. :) Ive been meaning to let my girlfriend read it, She likes pool too.
I want to see her reaction when she gets to that part ;-) of course when she is in a good mood! ;-) I don't want to go without dinner lol !


I found it comical to read now, especially in light of all these transgender opinions, but also I find it a bit comical that after 100 years, basically the exact same sexist opinions prevail.
I'd feel differently if I it were football or a rough full contact sort of sport.

I wonder if the same opinions continue to exist in archery? similar statements can be applied, archery also takes strength, but many women do participate and I'm not entirely sure being strong improves accuracy in either pool or archery. As a generalization men are definitely stronger but smell isn't everything ;-)
 
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Tim pool is a pretty decent and honest guy, so it makes complete sense why you'd dislike him.
He’s a grifter that makes money of riling up extremists. Sounds right up your alley.

He said women can’t be good journalist because they’re too emotional.

That kind of misogynistic nonsense sounds like something you’d approve of.
 
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i agree with you completely. they are a complete joke in my book.

be whatever you want and do however you feel or believe. but dont force it in the faces of others or use it to win things unfairly.
if you do you become the ball of dog poop. in kind words.
 
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i agree with you completely. they are a complete joke in my book.

be whatever you want and do however you feel or believe. but dont force it in the faces of others or use it to win things unfairly.
if you do you become the ball of dog poop. in kind words.
Another bigoted intolerant rant that makes this place so charming.

To summarize you think trans people are a ball of shit because they compete where they’re told they can compete or is it that merely existing in front of you is tantamount to something you find offensive?

You should take up your concerns with the tournament director that actual made the rules rather than all encompassing attacks on people as a whole.

The only joke is you.
 
Another bigoted intolerant rant that makes this place so charming.

To summarize you think trans people are a ball of shit because they compete where they’re told they can compete or is it that merely existing in front of you is tantamount to something you find offensive?

You should take up your concerns with the tournament director that actual made the rules rather than all encompassing attacks on people as a whole.

The only joke is you.
And yet you keep coming back over and over. If this place warps your moral compass just bail.
 
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