This is what you get if you take CRT and make it about pool instead of race. Women's divisions are for men and gender inequality can't be stopped because of marketing. Step away from the kool aid
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Are you ever on the right side of anything? This is not a discussion about rights. You could just take data from countries that this doesn't apply and get the same results. Example. I live in Canada. Here many women play and I even see Fathers bringing their daughters to play. If you took the top 3 Female players vs their Male counterparts it would be a bloodbath. The skills gaps is still cavernous. Any other conclusion is not looking at it objectively. The question is why?
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Flake,I guess what I am talking about here, much like J2pac was advocating, was open competition where gender plays no role. Handicapped based on skill-level. How we reach that, and how that happens fairly in the long-term is what needs discussion... How we get more young people playing the game, loving the game, without the need for gender to even play a factor. Currently, the reason such a divide in gender exists, is because it is forced. It's not a case of biology regarding cue sports, it's a case of social engineering and where the money keeps on flowing...simply undeniable (unless you have your eyes closed and fingers in your ears)
Someone's chosen identity shouldn't even bear any relevance in cuesports. Separate division shouldn't exist, and young talent should be encouraged and nurtured in the right way, in a way that actually promotes interest in the sport beyond the stereotypes that have been applied for generations. Isn't that what should be aimed for if we want the sport to grow? Does all of this discussion actually come from dinosaurs missing the feeling of the 'old days', the exclusivity or belonging it brought them (IDENTITY) and they are incapable or threatened by someone taking that away from them... It's almost as if it's not really about gender, but that gender is used to keep the money flowing to the right pockets, to keep those who feel important feeling that way... it's almost like the discussion about MR changing pocket sizes... accept this has the ability to damage, and diminish a persons right to be who they want...
In general I support the idea that biological males, should compete against other biological males, and vice versa. That being said, I also believe that if a pool tournament wants to create an open/handicapped based tournament, and the participants are onboard, then have at it
In short, I believe that all this can be accomplished while still maintaining a healthy respect for folks of all walks of life.
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go for it, you don't even have to have surgery , just tell them you are getting ready for it, or let them check you in a cold room
We have a simple formula for success. Women vs Women. Men vs Men. Those confused or uncertain play against the boys. That way everyone is included and may the best person win. No drama. This is not a washroom. Women made to compete against former Men in anything related to Physical is just not fair for both parties.
Patently false.
Those things HAVE happened.
At least two female students were sexually assaulted by a boy claiming girl status. Female inmates are getting raped and impregnated by men claiming women status to get avoid men's prisons. Riley Gaines was attacked and had to lock herself in a room in campus until help arrived. Grooming IS happening. No one is claiming that every trans person is committing these atrocities, but it is a fact that some of them are. It is also a fact that boys are stealing opportunities from girls. If we don't support that theft, lefties label it as hate and bigotry. I didn't call you a sexist for supporting men taking opportunities from women not did I say you hated women. I would not assume such a thing like you do constantly.
Women have pro pool at their standard and it has been working.
Playing pool is more important than the standard pool is played too. This is fundamental to career training education. There are standards for all people, however some people choose to maintain specific standards.
The problem in pool is the same as in higher education mathematics is overcrowded by men with poor to no leadership or organizational skills. How many years have men been organizing pool at least 100 years?
One day Emily Frazer shows up to the pool community and all of a sudden federations, players, promoters and social media are talking about pool again.
The objectivity of men is skewed because they never faced the same adversities that women faced from society, governance, politics and community.
Main point let the woman make the calls, especially if they were recently inducted into the Hall of Fame.
How long have men been making the rules for women? since the start of time. Pro women players are a blueprint for women from around the world. This is the psy-op first started when billiards was invented.
There was a time when women never traveled the world, now they are everywhere, get used to it. Get used to their way of doing things. Get used to hearing about women breaking norms and breaking standards.
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women WONT make the call because of the attacks from the left. In this case a woman made the call. She forfeited to stand up for what's right, costing herself in the process. Almost Every woman reading this thread now is not going to follow in those footsteps and put herself at the center of controversy. Sorry, but if a man is taking something from a woman or child, the correct response is not stand back and let the woman or child handle it
I don't think it even is necessarily so much about the physical attributes of men in pool, especially not english pool as this seems to be. English pool is even less demanding on power than American pool. A 2. ball break will usually yield good results, even when hit with not too much power. The cueball is tiny and the rails are super bouncy. You don't need much of a stroke to move it around. I think there is more of a case to be made for physical differnces playing a role in American pool, rather than English pool.
It's more that the talent pool in mens events are much much deeper. Not too many women play pool. A lot of men do. With harder competition, the skill level increases. If women want to advance their overall skill, they should compete against men, any chance they get, but not at womens only events.
I don't really think trans people should compete in the womens only competition as I think, over all, the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. Doesn't mean I'm anti-trans or transphobic.
Women organizations plan out responses. When women fight it is not as predictable as when men fight.
Usually a man will become aggressive and make the approach.
Women have had generations of training in self defense, politics and psychology.
Your view that you know what a women won't do is outdated. Sometimes women want the man to take something.
In other organizational tactics leaving a honeypot or bait are popular strategies for bullies or aggressive behavior.
How many men have lost their reputation because they were aggressive with women the wrong way?
I don't even need a cold room!
I can get behind this post. My objection to the other was the attached sexist rant, which precludes discussion.I guess what I am talking about here, much like J2pac was advocating, was open competition where gender plays no role. Handicapped based on skill-level. How we reach that, and how that happens fairly in the long-term is what needs discussion... How we get more young people playing the game, loving the game, without the need for gender to even play a factor. Currently, the reason such a divide in gender exists, is because it is forced. It's not a case of biology regarding cue sports, it's a case of social engineering and where the money keeps on flowing...simply undeniable (unless you have your eyes closed and fingers in your ears)
Someone's chosen identity shouldn't even bear any relevance in cuesports. Separate division shouldn't exist, and young talent should be encouraged and nurtured in the right way, in a way that actually promotes interest in the sport beyond the stereotypes that have been applied for generations. Isn't that what should be aimed for if we want the sport to grow? Does all of this discussion actually come from dinosaurs missing the feeling of the 'old days', the exclusivity or belonging it brought them (IDENTITY) and they are incapable or threatened by someone taking that away from them... It's almost as if it's not really about gender, but that gender is used to keep the money flowing to the right pockets, to keep those who feel important feeling that way... it's almost like the discussion about MR changing pocket sizes
Including a sexist rant precludes discussion. His reply was without sexist rant and got a respectful reply
Unfortunately, people include sexist, homophobic, or racist rants to try to end discussion through shame.
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Cherry picking isolated incidents is hardly a systemic problem let alone a problem that should even be on anyone's radar. Your fear of "leftist labels" is mostly a problem within the msm not the lgtbq community. But you have a long history of claiming victim at the hands of liberals. Going after trans people is just the most recent flavor of the month vessel from you. Next month will be some other liberal obsession that you want to cry about.
Grooming is happening predominantly in so called hetero white male environments. Like the church. To suggest that grooming is even a remotely measurable problem within the lgtbq community is laughable.
Never in all my time have I seen you speak out or rail against the church like your hate filled anti gay and anti trans rants we've seen from you over the years. Yet you want to mention grooming... get back to us when you can address the real groomers.
Most of your posts here are so far out on the fringe of the pendulum that its clear your real motive is to smear trans people not reconcile legitimate concerns.
What is it that you take issue with? The mention of a penis? Not mentioning peni enough?
Why not just directly address the part you had a problem with rather than some creepy backhanded insult?
Your post was intended to imply another member has an obsession with penises not break down an issue you took with his/her post.
We unfortunately live in a time of wokeness, where people are pilloried for speaking the truth. The core of this original post was about a “transgender” who entered a female competition even though he is a male. Regarding the current situation, this is considered an “advantage”. While the idea of the separation of sexes may indeed be a worthy discussion, it is not the core of the original post.
What people are afraid to say in this debate, because of “wokeness”, is that a person cannot scientifically change their gender. You may mutilate your genitalia all you want. I defend your right to do so. You can pretend to be a different sex, if you wish. You can not however demand that other people pretend with you.
My response is to defend the rights of a woman that does not agree to pretend with the “transgender”.
What people are afraid to say in this debate, because of “wokeness”, is that a person cannot scientifically change their gender. You may mutilate your genitalia all you want. I defend your right to do so. You can pretend to be a different sex, if you wish. You can not however demand that other people pretend with you.
My response is to defend the rights of a woman that does not agree to pretend with the “transgender”.
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Answered all ready. I’m very sorry if you have a problem with reading comprehension. Please don’t continue to beat a dead horse with your distractions.
Better luck next time with your personal insults.
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