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I normally don't post anything controversial or offensive to anyone (at least I try not to). Please don't take my following comments as argumentative or adversarial. Be “inclusive” of all people regardless of their views and beliefs. 😊

Personally, I believe in truisms / objective facts. I weigh 250 pounds. While I could self-identify as 190 pounds, that doesn't change the objective fact that I'm 250. Just because someone "feels" like a woman doesn't mean they become a woman. If they want to pretend to be a woman, it's OK with me, pretend to be sofa or a rottweiler if you want, but don't drag me into your delusion. I won't sit on someone that self-identifies as a sofa. I won't pet a person that self-identifies as a rottweiler. I won't refer to a man that pretends to be a woman as a woman.

Masculinity and femininity are on scales and people are confusing scales with flipping genders. Just because a man isn't masculine and instead is even feminine, that doesn't mean he's a woman. He's just a feminine man and that's OK.

Nowadays, a feminine boy who may not fit in with masculine boys, all he needs to do is call himself a woman and he's embraced and commended for his bravery. Instead of being someone that doesn't fit in because of his differences, he's now part of a community. We are not doing our youth any favors by supporting this charade. It’s OK for a man to be feminine, and it’s OK for a woman to be masculine. It's OK to be different. It's not OK to be delusional and make others partake in that delusion.

My answer to men in women’s sports: not allowed. You can call yourself anything you want, but if you want to play sports, you play in the women’s division or the open division. Men that call themselves women play “open”. Trans women can play either.

Those men that are dominating women’s sports are just narcissists in my opinion. They don’t care about competing against other women, they just want to win and get attention.
 
I’ll also add that attacking people by labeling them as “mentally deficient” is the exact kind of hate filled rhetoric that accomplishes nothing.

It’s just a cowardly way to hurl a backhanded insult.

It’s easy to identify intolerance and bigotry when you resort to that line of rhetoric.
Not hate.
Gender dysphoria is a deficiency which makes an imbalance causing less than optimal brain function.
Everything you don't agree with is not hate.
Feel free to quote me when I write that I hate something or someone.
BTW, that is also not "hate speech" even though it is speech that you hate.
 
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Killed? Get real. This is some grade A fear mongering. Let’s deal with real shit and not your need to criminalize people for things that haven’t happened.

You’re definitely part of the problem when you basically characterize a group of people as violent and murderous based on what you think might happen.

If a crime is committed hold them accountable.

TD still isn’t willing to stand their ground then task someone who will.

UFC doesn’t give into liberal dog whistles and last I checked Dana White wasn’t murdered for it.
I wrote that AT LEAST ONE of the things listed WOULD happen.
I am correct.
You focused on the least probable in an attempt to discredit the entire list.
There is a 100% chance that one of those things listed would happen.
 
Gender dysphoria is a deficiency which makes an imbalance causing less than optimal brain function.
Everything you don't agree with it hate.

BTW, that is also not "hate speech" even though it is speech that you hate.
Your background in psychology, medicine and politics adds welcomed clarity here... :rolleyes:
 
Not hate.
Gender dysphoria is a deficiency which makes an imbalance causing less than optimal brain function.
Everything you don't agree with it hate.
Feel free to quote me when I write that I hate something or someone.
BTW, that is also not "hate speech" even though it is speech that you hate.
Yet you gloss over the long list of hate filled crap you posted beyond dysphoria.

You do realize that not every trans person suffers from gender dysphoria.
 
I wrote that AT LEAST ONE of the things listed WOULD happen.
I am correct.
You focused on the least probable in an attempt to discredit the entire list.
There is a 100% chance that one of those things listed would happen.
No there’s not.

Most of what you posted was simply stated so that you can paint trans people in a disparaging and violent manner.
 
No there’s not.

Most of what you posted was simply stated so that you can paint trans people in a disparaging and violent manner.
Please don't waste your time arguing with the psychology, medical, political, data analysis expert on an open forum. His comments are grounded in deep knowledge, logic and are factual representation of reality...
Didn't he say something about less than optimal brain function? :unsure:
Just have to remember, a better man than all of us combined said something along the lines of, "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"
 
No human society has ever cornered the market on truth. The truth is that everything changes, people are never satisfied and identities are fictional. What it means to be Christian, or Spanish, or even a man or a woman, all depends on the stories people believe. It's changed many times in the past, and will keep changing in the future.
You won't find the truth by killing or hating the people who disagree with you - you'll just sink into your own ignorance.

Hoping to see more posts about the game we love, and will look to avoid such threads in the future.
 

The lady is drier than dirt and hard to listen to for sixteen minutes. She also seems to reverse herself and go a bit space cadet in the last few minutes saying that all elite athletes are freaks so all should be allowed to compete together.

The first few minutes are most interesting to me because she comes with hard numbers that document my "ox theory". Regardless of testosterone, a transsexual retains most of the advantages of a man in competition. Transitioning before puberty negates much of the advantage. However I don't think a child is sure enough of what sex they want to live as to make decisions they will have to live with lifelong at young ages. I have seen where people wanted to change people as young as four to six. A good move if the person turns out to be a girl, a terrible move if it turns out the child was just a little boy that liked to play with dolls or girls. Later the young man finds out he is a boy with female running gear!

Hu
 
Do you know that they actively invited trans people to play...? More likely they didn't dawn on them to make a rule to prevent a trans person from playing.

Lets assume for a moment that they had the fore sight to know that a trans person would potential attempt to enter the tournament. If the restrictions were posted on AZB in a thread about this trans person not being allowed to compete. What is the likely hood that you would be defending the TD and not labeling them a transphobic (sp?)

haynes keeps referring to a discrimination law from 2010. i'm not sure the organizer can ban men who identifies as women without legal consequences. lynne did the right thing, but the circus will continue.
 
haynes keeps referring to a discrimination law from 2010. i'm not sure the organizer can ban men who identifies as women without legal consequences. lynne did the right thing, but the circus will continue.

Yes, today people have to be very careful. No telling what criminal and civil repercussions someone might face not allowing a trans person to compete with what they identify as. Lately I have seen that the only thing that matters is what the person identifies as, not any physical traits at all.

I'm gonna keep identifying as male but as I near my second childhood I am going to identify as eleven years old. I am gonna be strong in the under twelve events!

Hu
 
I am of the beleif that women can do anything that a man can do and do it equally.

Now the problem that i have if i labeled a tournament a "Mens" tournament every feminist is going to start a shit storm, But how is it okay for their to be a "womens" tournament. Beats the crap out of me.

I definately don't condone this trans bullshit. Personally i think something is mentally wrong with these indivuals, but they are forcing this crap on us. I miss the days when people were ridiculed because of this behavior. But times are changing. Now everyone has feeling even assholes like me.

Now back on to pool. Do i beleive that the best women pool players can compete with the best men players HELL NO. I am definatley not the best player, but i did play Karen Korr in her prime and come out ahead.

Should their be a womens tournament? No. Should a man play in a womans tournament? No.

This is all just damn confusing.
You can believe that women can do what men can do but what’s in front of your eyes should tell you other wise lol every sport they allow men to play with women men easily dominate and break all records.
We have the trans swimmer in pa. One year he’s not in the top 500 swimmers in the state and the next year he says he’s a women he’s no faster but now he’s number 1 in the state. Breaking all their records and talking about how easy it is. 😳
Hell last week our national female soccer team played a team of 15 year old boys and got their ass kicked lol
I could go on and on so no , thanks to testosterone our best in acts of physical abilities will always be above women’s best. Many things women are better than us. this just is t one of them and that’s ok. We are different.
But yes to your point and to the people fighting for trans people in female sports you can’t have it both ways. Either women need their own sports so they get the chance to compete , possibly earn scholarships and make a living at games or we are all are equal and they don’t. lol
Again when it comes to pool I’m just not sure how testosterone makes us better at it. I always felt we were more advanced because the talent pool was bigger. In other words more men played then women. Kind of like how they decide schools to compete based on size. We expect bigger schools to have better sports teams because they have more kids to choose from.. if that makes sense.
 
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haynes keeps referring to a discrimination law from 2010. i'm not sure the organizer can ban men who identifies as women without legal consequences. lynne did the right thing, but the circus will continue.
That’s why they’ve been adding born female to sports that don’t allow trans women.
 
If you have evidence or additional information then post it and we can go from there.
Sorry... I didn't intend on painting you into a corner.

What evidence or additional information would you require to respond to the hypothetical situation re-posted below, that merely queries your own narrative..?
Lets assume for a moment that they had the fore sight to know that a trans person would potential attempt to enter the tournament. If the restrictions were posted on AZB in a thread about this trans person not being allowed to compete. What is the likely hood that you would be defending the TD and not labeling them transphobic (sp?)
 
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Look at what you’re getting in the above post.

Right out of the gate he characterizes trans people as violent activists who will engage in 1 of 6 things listed. Including physical assault, arson and murder. All which is a fantasy in his head because he needs a strawman to justify the prejudice and hatred.

Then he characterizes trans people as mass murders who can kill and be protected by the government. Just nonsense.

Then refers to trans people as mentally unstable and mentally deficient. All while lacking the self awareness to see that his post is as mentally unstable as it gets.

All the lies, slurs, insults are perfectly fine here. Not one single productive thing said in his post.

I’m all for a meaningful and candid conversation but his post reeks of intolerant hatred.
Point of clarity: The post specifically mentions trans ACTIVIST, not trans people. You dont have to be a trans to be a trans activist...there could by psychotic trans activists out and about. Just sayin'
 
Sorry... I didn't intend on painting you into a corner.

What evidence or additional information would you require to respond to the hypothetical situation re-posted below, that merely queries your own narrative..?
Its their rules to make and I have stated repeatedly that for as much as I'm an advocate for the lgtbq community I don't believe born males should be competing in women's sports. There is a biological advantage being born and raised a male.

I would have no issue with the rule. In fact I'm suggesting that they make the rule going forward.

Until we have a better solution it unfortunately needs to be the way. I just wish we could address it with meaningful and thoughtful dialogue rather than anger and intolerance.
 
Point of clarity: The post specifically mentions trans ACTIVIST, not trans people. You dont have to be a trans to be a trans activist...there could by psychotic trans activists out and about. Just sayin'
I saw the distinction but also got the gist of his point. He was clearly trying to make a point to disparage the community in large. The characterizations were obnoxious and not in the spirit of good faith discussion. They were downright shitty and abhorrent.
 
That’s why they’ve been adding born female to sports that don’t allow trans women.
I was serious when I said the solution is to have XX and XY divisions for all sports. There may also be leagues in certain sports with a mixed division in which case XX and XY play together. Do the same with bathrooms. XX and XY. Family bathrooms already exist that allow,either sex. If people want to insist on changing the meaning of words, this solves the problem. There will be a select number of mental midgets read this and still not understand so let me help the special ones out a little further. Speech, by definition, is not violence. Speech CAN be hate. Scientific/biological facts are not hate. Claiming that not letting 1 person pretending to be a woman compete against women is unfair is the definition of ignorance. One person's mental illness does not trump the rights of every woman. I truly hope anybody who feels out of place in their own body can find peace with themselves. Pandering to and pretending it's not mental illness at the expense of the general population will never be the answer. I do not care how you dress, act, speak, and most of all who you sleep with. The rest of the world is not expected to play along with the delusion, though. I've seen the term intersex and hermaphrodite in this thread, too. There has never, in the history of man been a recorded case of someone having both female and male reproductive organs so that argument is nonexistent
 
I was serious when I said the solution is to have XX and XY divisions for all sports. There may also be leagues in certain sports with a mixed division in which case XX and XY play together. Do the same with bathrooms. XX and XY. Family bathrooms already exist that allow,either sex. If people want to insist on changing the meaning of words, this solves the problem. There will be a select number of mental midgets read this and still not understand so let me help the special ones out a little further. Speech, by definition, is not violence. Speech CAN be hate. Scientific/biological facts are not hate. Claiming that not letting 1 person pretending to be a woman compete against women is unfair is the definition of ignorance. One person's mental illness does not trump the rights of every woman. I truly hope anybody who feels out of place in their own body can find peace with themselves. Pandering to and pretending it's not mental illness at the expense of the general population will never be the answer. I do not care how you dress, act, speak, and most of all who you sleep with. The rest of the world is not expected to play along with the delusion, though. I've seen the term intersex and hermaphrodite in this thread, too. There has never, in the history of man been a recorded case of someone having both female and male reproductive organs so that argument is nonexistent
No ones changing the meaning of words no matter how many times you people attempt to antagonize others with that willfully ignorant statement.

What you haven’t figured out is the difference between gender identity and born sex.
 
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