Got sharked while gambling

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Today, this morning, I seen what getting sharked is really about. I mean for the first time, it really got in the way.

There have been times where an opponent was obviously being a pain, but not like this before.

First, he wouldn't shut up while I was shooting. Then he went in front of the pocket I was shooting at and pulled his crotch up just as I pulled the trigger... Now this got a little heated as I accused him in front of everybody of pulling some sh*t... He said "man you know I didn't do it on purpose"...

I don't know what to think about it. Part of me says he probably didn't but apart of me said he did it virtually unconciously. This guy is one of those that are constantly spitting sh*t out of their mouth to keep their confidence up and try to keep yours down ya know..

Then later on in the game two of my balls were sitting right in the pocket nearly touching. I shot one of them in and he tried to say that it grazed the other.. I watched it, i don't think so.. not to mention another guy backed me up that was watching saying he never saw it move.

This same game.. yes this all happened in just one game..i had to bank the 8 in against the grain for the win. He says some bs and i go "i could play a safe if I want".. I proceed to bank the 8 in and I look at him and he's expecting me to pay up.. im sittin there with this "wtf" face and say "What are you talking about? I just banked it in" him - "you said you were playing safe.." me - "NO i said I could play safe on it, banking wasn't my only option" he says some more bs I say something else.....


That was one of the lamest times i've ever had playing pool.
 
You held back real well. To me sharking is for people that are not confident with their game. I would have given him a reason to be grabbing his crotch.
 
Please take these comments in the constructive way they are intended.

1. If you're going to play for money avoid mickey mouse house rules which would involve it mattering whether the cue ball or object ball grazed another of your own balls on the way into the pocket.

2. If you're about to shoot at an 8 ball for the win don't announce "I could play safe" just before you hit it, especially if you are going to bank it.

3. If, after you've announced the above option that you "could play safe" and without saying anything else you then bank it and pot it and an argument ensues.....don't point out to your opponent that "banking wasn't your only option".....because that in fact supports his argument just as much as it supports yours, if not more.

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Next time the guy parks his boys right behind the pocket you're shooting at it's time to pull out the jump stick.
 
Did he pay up? If so, than don't gamble with him again unless you have neutral witnesses watching the game and come to a mutual agreement that he STFU (Unless calling a foul) and keep his ass on the seat cushion while you are shooting. If he doesn't shut up or do any of the requirements, than it would be automatic loss of game. See if he tries to pull that shit again.
 
Don't play him again life's to short unless there's a potential mountain of money to be made there are always better matches.

I will say the easiest way I've found to shut these people up (kicking the crap out of them involves jail or law suits) is to bear down and not miss (if running outs not an option repeatedly play safe) drives them crazy and they look like the idiots they are anyway.

What's the Cornbread Red line someone posted on here? "That's not going to help you any" from what I hear he was pretty vocal himself so I'm sure it sounded worse in person than in print. I have resorted to the jump shot or "wild" break.

I hear these "old timer" gambling stories. I always wondered how did somebody like Minnesota Fats get away with all of his "sharking"? It would seem somebody somewhere would have "buried" him in the street at some point.
 
memikey said:
Please take these comments in the constructive way they are intended.

1. If you're going to play for money avoid mickey mouse house rules which would involve it mattering whether the cue ball or object ball grazed another of your own balls on the way into the pocket.
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Good advice but it sounds like he was in a bar. Sometimes when in Rome, in order to win Roman money, do as the Romans do. His mistake was probably reacting to it which only encourages more.
 
alstl said:
Good advice but it sounds like he was in a bar. Sometimes when in Rome, in order to win Roman money, do as the Romans do. His mistake was probably reacting to it which only encourages more.
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Leave the Roman money where it is....

I decided to play recently in a bar under God knows who's "straight 8 rules". Which admittedly I didn't find out all of the rules before hand....all I knew was no ball in hand (if object ball was not hit legally), scratches put the opponent in the kitchen, caroms must be called, etc. No problem adapting of course, until I broke and made 2 stripes and a solid - open table for sure. Not so fast, apparently I should have shot at a stripe since I made more stripes on the break - lol.....no more, no rulebook, learn as you go, no thanks :rolleyes:
 
trustyrusty said:
Leave the Roman money where it is....

I decided to play recently in a bar under God knows who's "straight 8 rules". Which admittedly I didn't find out all of the rules before hand....all I knew was no ball in hand (if object ball was not hit legally), scratches put the opponent in the kitchen, caroms must be called, etc. No problem adapting of course, until I broke and made 2 stripes and a solid - open table for sure. Not so fast, apparently I should have shot at a stripe since I made more stripes on the break - lol.....no more, no rulebook, learn as you go, no thanks :rolleyes:
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Man that brings back some memories. I was playing at a bar on league night and we were playing Valley rules. Afterward this guy wants to play a short race for 100 and I say OK. We get to hill hill and agreed ahead of time to play by bar rules which were Valley rules, but were also posted in HUGE letters on the wall.

Call pocket, No gambling, ROFL. I am on the 8 and call corner pocket. I shoot the 8 in and it grazes the side rail and goes in but doesn't touch any other ball. He says you lose, you didn't call 1 rail? WHAT?????
 
I honestly believe in my heart that if I moved back to America I would stop playing pool. Manners were out the door 20 years ago and it's obviously gotten worse. I could not play under those conditions. I know there are a lot of you out there that are good guys, and play it the way it should be, but you're out numbered 10-1 by people like the guy described in this story.

To the OP, why on earth did you allow him to continue acting like this after your first time to the table? You gotta nip that shit in the bud from the get go.
MULLY
 
u12armresl said:
Man that brings back some memories. I was playing at a bar on league night and we were playing Valley rules. Afterward this guy wants to play a short race for 100 and I say OK. We get to hill hill and agreed ahead of time to play by bar rules which were Valley rules, but were also posted in HUGE letters on the wall.

Call pocket, No gambling, ROFL. I am on the 8 and call corner pocket. I shoot the 8 in and it grazes the side rail and goes in but doesn't touch any other ball. He says you lose, you didn't call 1 rail? WHAT?????
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MULLY
 
mullyman said:
I honestly believe in my heart that if I moved back to America I would stop playing pool. Manners were out the door 20 years ago and it's obviously gotten worse. I could not play under those conditions. I know there are a lot of you out there that are good guys, and play it the way it should be, but you're out numbered 10-1 by people like the guy described in this story.

To the OP, why on earth did you allow him to continue acting like this after your first time to the table? You gotta nip that shit in the bud from the get go.
MULLY
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We weren't playing for enough for it to matter that much to me. If I beat him with the way he's acting, all the better.

If I can gamble with that, i can gamble with anything though so good/bad side to everything i guess.
 
mullyman said:
I honestly believe in my heart that if I moved back to America I would stop playing pool. Manners were out the door 20 years ago and it's obviously gotten worse. I could not play under those conditions. I know there are a lot of you out there that are good guys, and play it the way it should be, but you're out numbered 10-1 by people like the guy described in this story.

MULLY
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Not every where in America, just many places in America. mullyman living in Japan has spoiled you as the Japanese are know for manners, and is not HARD CRIME Low in Japan?
 
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To me, that isn't sharking, it is cheating. If a guy wants to cheat, it is probably best to call him out in the pool hall. If he refuses to pay, I would call the owner in. No owner wants a guy in his room who is going to cause gunfire. A cheater will draw gun fire someday. Maybe not from you, but I would imagine most good players have something close in casde it gets rough. Money games can bring out the best and worst in people.
 
memikey said:
Please take these comments in the constructive way they are intended.

1. If you're going to play for money avoid mickey mouse house rules which would involve it mattering whether the cue ball or object ball grazed another of your own balls on the way into the pocket.

2. If you're about to shoot at an 8 ball for the win don't announce "I could play safe" just before you hit it, especially if you are going to bank it.

3. If, after you've announced the above option that you "could play safe" and without saying anything else you then bank it and pot it and an argument ensues.....don't point out to your opponent that "banking wasn't your only option".....because that in fact supports his argument just as much as it supports yours, if not more.

:smile::confused:
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well said, i completely agree with this.
 
I hate trying to bank those balls in against the grain. How do you normally go after those?? I usually just hit at em and hollar shlt.
 
memikey said:
Please take these comments in the constructive way they are intended.

1. If you're going to play for money avoid mickey mouse house rules which would involve it mattering whether the cue ball or object ball grazed another of your own balls on the way into the pocket.

2. If you're about to shoot at an 8 ball for the win don't announce "I could play safe" just before you hit it, especially if you are going to bank it.

3. If, after you've announced the above option that you "could play safe" and without saying anything else you then bank it and pot it and an argument ensues.....don't point out to your opponent that "banking wasn't your only option".....because that in fact supports his argument just as much as it supports yours, if not more.

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yep! announcing anything with the word safe in the sentence when you're not playing safe is asking for trouble. that is if you don't clarify before you shoot.

it's your responsibility to ask the guy to move out of the way if he's in front of your shot

was this on a bar box? what were the stakes?
 
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