Graphite/Wood/Shorter Shaft/3 Piece Cue ????

Island Drive

Island Drive

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Just to confirm. The LD stiffness removes the wiggle, or flexing that happens to a wooden shaft thus transferring more draw/spin. Using wood....with speed this wiggle/Give increases, ld shafts different story. So why can't someone make a 3 piece Wooden Cue that plays as Stiff as Carbon without an layered wood? One would think, removing 5 to 7 inches of length to a wooden shaft/or more???, it would have to be nearly as stiff as an LD....also it will allow a better masse'/flex/feel'. Does this make any sense? I'm currently having a ''worn out'' ''played out'' shaft cut, and then use my 5'' extension as my middle, keeping the cue overall length 58''. 29/5/24. There's Gotta be a good mid point. Maybe a 26/10/22 or???????????

Sure would be ALLOT easier to travel with normal luggage. With this cue set up....21/20/17. You could use the overhead bin. :)
 
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Island Drive said:
Just to confirm. The LD stiffness removes the wiggle, or flexing that happens to a wooden shaft thus transferring more draw/spin. Using wood....with speed this wiggle/Give increases, ld shafts different story. So why can't someone make a 3 piece Wooden Cue that plays as Stiff as Carbon without an layered wood? One would think, removing 5 to 7 inches of length to a wooden shaft/or more???, it would have to be nearly as stiff as an LD....also it will allow a better masse'/flex/feel'. Does this make any sense? I'm currently having a ''worn out'' ''played out'' shaft cut, and then use my 5'' extension as my middle, keeping the cue overall length 58''. 29/5/24. There's Gotta be a good mid point. Maybe a 26/10/22 or???????????

Sure would be ALLOT easier to travel with normal luggage. With this cue set up....21/20/17. You could use the overhead bin. :)
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Just read a manufacturer claiming the new wonder shafts are almost identical in stiffness to wood, one or two percent which would be within the variables found with wood I believe.

I have long been interested in a 20"-20"-20" three piece cue which would give me the sixty inch cue I like. Using G-10 pins the weight wouldn't be an issue. Never got past the daydreaming stage.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
Just read a manufacturer claiming the new wonder shafts are almost identical in stiffness to wood, one or two percent which would be within the variables found with wood I believe.

I have long been interested in a 20"-20"-20" three piece cue which would give me the sixty inch cue I like. Using G-10 pins the weight wouldn't be an issue. Never got past the daydreaming stage.

Hu
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I'll let yah know how it goes. Gonna see Ernie M. in Denver Thur and drop it off for a recut. I'll have em use an ld ferrule, can't hurt. 1978 Kikel Shafts are shot/worn out/thin/whippy/unusable from yrs of play. Can't hurt tah try.
 
I would definitely buy a cue I could fit in my carry on luggage. I travel every week for work.


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Klink said:
I would definitely buy a cue I could fit in my carry on luggage. I travel every week for work.


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The problem isn't the fact that they don't fit in a carry on....TSA considers a cue(chunk of wood) a weapon, just like a knife or pistol. Therefore, it has to go in the luggage below deck.
When you go through the scanners, it would get removed.
Years ago I got to just carry my cue case on the flight....those were the days :)
 
Thank You!

Island Drive said:
I'll let yah know how it goes. Gonna see Ernie M. in Denver Thur and drop it off for a recut. I'll have em use an ld ferrule, can't hurt. 1978 Kikel Shafts are shot/worn out/thin/whippy/unusable from yrs of play. Can't hurt tah try.
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Thank you! I would appreciate an update later. Seems like it would work and I suspect stuck in a big briefcase or carry on piece it wouldn't get a second glance.

Hu
 
I don't believe LD shafts are less flexible. If the shaft has no flexibility then there will be maximum cb squirt/deflection. A low deflection shaft actually deflects away from the cb more/easier than a regular non LD shaft.
 
BC21;6377145[B said:
]I don't believe LD shafts are less flexible[/B]. If the shaft has no flexibility then there will be maximum cb squirt/deflection. A low deflection shaft actually deflects away from the cb more/easier than a regular non LD shaft.
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I'm not grasping your meaning.

Not believing, well it's gotta be either True or False. LD shafts either do or they don't.

I always thought ld shafts flexed ''less'' and because of this ''reality'' it was able to create more spin (because it didn't diminish it's momentum because of shaft flex), especially off center cueing.
 
Island Drive said:
I'm not grasping your meaning.

Not believing, well it's gotta be either True or False. LD shafts either do or they don't.

I always thought ld shafts flexed ''less'' and because of this ''reality'' it was able to create more spin (because it didn't diminish it's momentum because of shaft flex), especially off center cueing.
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From Dr. Dave's website... https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/squirt/endmass/

Mike Page (FargoBilliards) has a YouTube video on cue "end mass" deflection... https://youtu.be/mXJ7bDafTms

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Island Drive said:
I'm not grasping your meaning.

Not believing, well it's gotta be either True or False. LD shafts either do or they don't.

I always thought ld shafts flexed ''less'' and because of this ''reality'' it was able to create more spin (because it didn't diminish it's momentum because of shaft flex), especially off center cueing.
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LD shafts don't necessarily impart any more spin than regular shafts. They have a lighter mass near the tip end, the last few inches. This lighter end mass, combined with good flexibility, allows the shaft to deflect off of the cb quicker/easier, which means it doesn't push/squirt/deflect the cb off line as much as a non LD shaft does.
 
tucson9ball said:
The problem isn't the fact that they don't fit in a carry on....TSA considers a cue(chunk of wood) a weapon, just like a knife or pistol. Therefore, it has to go in the luggage below deck.

When you go through the scanners, it would get removed.

Years ago I got to just carry my cue case on the flight....those were the days :)
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I usually check my suitcase anyway. It would nice if I could find a good hitting cue that would fit inside it.


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ShootingArts said:
Just read a manufacturer claiming the new wonder shafts are almost identical in stiffness to wood, one or two percent which would be within the variables found with wood I believe.

I have long been interested in a 20"-20"-20" three piece cue which would give me the sixty inch cue I like. Using G-10 pins the weight wouldn't be an issue. Never got past the daydreaming stage.

Hu
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I have a 20-20-20 carbon fiber cue. No G-10 pin though. Squirt is about the same as the 12.4 Revo. It passed the TSA X-ray one time that I carried it on. It fit diagonally in my 18” suitcase.
 
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Island Drive said:
I'm not grasping your meaning.

Not believing, well it's gotta be either True or False. LD shafts either do or they don't.

I always thought ld shafts flexed ''less'' and because of this ''reality'' it was able to create more spin (because it didn't diminish it's momentum because of shaft flex), especially off center cueing.
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Z-shaft flexes like crazy. 314-3 flexes less. Revo is much stiffer. All low squirt
 
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