Great article about reasons for the continuing decline of road players

arnaldo

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A friend just emailed me this colorful and informative NY Times article (below) about the decline of road players. It’s from a few years ago and quite a good read. The adverse effect of the Internet was a very valid and perceptive inclusion among the opinions. -- Arnaldo

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“JUMP THE SHARK”

By L. Jon Wertheim

While there are, admittedly, figures more deserving of sympathy than unemployed pool players, the demise of the hustler is an occasion to be mourned. As recently as 10 years ago, it was possible for a pool player to earn a living hustling, provided he was armed with the requisite chops and disposition.

Plenty of “roadmen” made plenty of money with scores at Chelsea Billiards in Manhattan or Mikey’s 24/7 in Oklahoma City or the Sports Palace in Columbia, S.C. Odds were good that there was at least one unsuspecting local in the joint with an inflated impression of his talent for pocketing balls, and thus a willingness to throw down “big timber” against the out-of-towner.

Today, pool hustlers have joined American heavyweight boxing champs, complete-game pitchers, hockey goons and drug-free cyclists as relics in sports. Endearing bit players in the cast of American culture, hustlers have been written out of future episodes. “It used to be that you had to turn down action; then you had to look hard for action; and now there’s no action,” Bucky Bell, a Cincinnati-based pool wizard, lamented to me. “A lot of guys who play real good pool are having to look for real jobs.”

The pool hustler wasn’t murdered by any single suspect, but the last man holding the knife was Kevin Trudeau, the bestselling author of the “Natural Cures” series who once served a prison term for felony larceny. Mr. Trudeau out-hustled the hustlers — and killed off a national archetype in the process.

But even before Mr. Trudeau, hustling was on its deathbed. The Internet didn’t help. Time was, a player would score big in, say, Cheyenne, Wyo., and by the time word got out over the pool transom, the hustler was already in Lexington, Ky., or Laredo, Tex. But then came the popular online forum AZBilliards.com. Suddenly a player would score big and his exploits would be publicized by sunrise.

The poker boom hurt too, siphoning the species who once hustled pool — young, competitive, predominantly white men with an incurable gambling jones — with guaranteed round-the-clock action and a reduced threat of getting jacked in the parking lot. Even $3-a-gallon gas prices exacted a price: why drive to Olathe, Kan., for a chance at winning $500 when it might cost $250 just to get there?

Then came the International Pool Tour, Mr. Trudeau’s final squirt of embalming fluid. When he founded the professional pool tour in 2005, Mr. Trudeau vowed to turn eight-ball into a viable, big-league sport. Winners would take home $500,000 prizes; first-round losers were guaranteed $5,000.

For pool players, accustomed to driving miles out of their way just to avoid paying bridge tolls, this was akin to raising the minimum wage by a factor of 10. Hustlers who had been traveling incognito for years came out of the woodwork to try to qualify for the tour. Joining meant that their cover would be blown, but the money was too good to pass up.

The first three events were smashing successes. But in keeping with the circadian rhythms of pool, the boom times didn’t last. Last year, after a tournament in Reno, Nev., players were informed of an inconvenient detail: the tour couldn’t pay the prize money. Mr. Trudeau, once accessible and upbeat, was nowhere to be found.

The tour eventually notified players that the debts would be paid in small, periodic installments. But to date the players have yet to be paid all of the money they are owed. There hasn’t been another International Pool Tour event since.

Some players were so demoralized by Mr. Trudeau’s hustle that they quit the sport entirely. And the rest had become known quantities to avid amateur players. Unmasked by television and the Internet, these once-stealthy hustlers could no longer lure anyone into believing they were just passing through town, innocently looking to relax at the local poolroom.
The death of hustling marks the end of a uniquely American pursuit.

What’s a more vivid extension of the frontier mentality than a man, carrying only a wooden stick, slinking into town and making a buck? What’s a better example of self-sufficiency than caroming around the country and using superior skill, craft and wit to fleece the other guy? Who embodies Melville’s “Confidence Man” better than the suave and mysterious pool hustler?

Pool hustlers are outlaws, but they are — or were — the kind of outlaws we root for, “honorable swindlers” who usually dripped with charisma and eccentricity. “You don’t make much money but you do get paid in stories,” Kid Delicious, the New Jersey hustler, told me. “And you don’t got to worry about the taxman getting his hand on them.”

And hustling doesn’t merely involve the players at the table. There was a rogue’s gallery of “stakehorses” (financial backers), “sweators on the rail” (side bettors) and “nits” (kibitzers). As the gambling spigot has been turned off, the local poolroom — once a civic institution — has almost vanished. The extinction of the pool hustler has bleached some color from the cultural landscape and dotted small-town America with yet another economic casualty.

Look hard and there’s still action out there. Earlier this year, two players won a high-stakes six-player “ring game” in Mobile, Ala. In September in Sioux Falls, S.D., a hearing-impaired player, Shane Van Boening, beat Corey Deuel, a veteran shark from Ohio, in a $10,000 winner-take-all race to 100 games. The annual Derby City Classic in Louisville, Ky., still features late-night games with stakes that can exceed six figures.

“But that’s just gambling,” Bucky Bell says wistfully. “Real hustling — driving to a pool room in another state, walking in, setting the trap, busting the local guy and then heading to a new town — is different. That’s what ain’t there any more.”
 

thekaiserman

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Everything changes and if you don't change with it you get left behind.
Things are changing faster these days we have to get used to it or die.
I see lots of action in pool rooms. but today you have to give or get weight.
Just my 2 Cents. no story.
 

huckster

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As much as people want to blame the shyster Kevin trudeau for killing hustling it was the internet, casinos and the cell phone.
 

david(tx)

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As much as people want to blame the shyster Kevin trudeau for killing hustling it was the internet, casinos and the cell phone.


Technology is killing freedom and privacy amongst other things . 32 oz. fountain drink anyone ?Among other things , 100 dollar tennis shoes , 20 inch rims and the tires that go on them , and entry level cars costing 18,000 dollars , and 10 dollar an hour jobs .

I've noticed several of the Filipino players playing bar table tournaments lately , so money must be tight back home . Watching this weekend i wondered if they were being sponsored because not winning means not much of a payday , and if they didn't have the money to buy half themselves in the auction things look grim.
 

CJ Wiley

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there's some other key factors that have changed that's difficult to understand

As much as people want to blame the shyster Kevin trudeau for killing hustling it was the internet, casinos and the cell phone.

It's just a different world, and it seems like it's more about money than it used to be. For example in this last tournament in Houston they had banks and one pocket tournaments. In both the finals they just chose to "split the money" and not play the finals.

I don't care {myself} what they choose to do, however, I've never seen that before. Doesn't someone want to be considered the "Champion"? I would say if they're really going to split the money at least play one game for the title.

It is poker, cell phones, casinos and internet....but there's some other key factors that have changed that's difficult to understand. I used to really like the finals and can't imagine just agreeing to say we "tied for second"....you can't really say you "tied for first" can you? Hmmm
 

David Marcus

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Very Well Said Mr. Wiley...

It's just a different world, and it seems like it's more about money than it used to be. For example in this last tournament in Houston they had banks and one pocket tournaments. In both the finals they just chose to "split the money" and not play the finals.

I don't care {myself} what they choose to do, however, I've never seen that before. Doesn't someone want to be considered the "Champion"? I would say if they're really going to split the money at least play one game for the title.

It is poker, cell phones, casinos and internet....but there's some other key factors that have changed that's difficult to understand. I used to really like the finals and can't imagine just agreeing to say we "tied for second"....you can't really say you "tied for first" can you? Hmmm

VERY well said....back in the day it was more about who was the BEST. The trophy,the title....YOUR NAME at the far right of the bracket board. It was as much about pride as it was about money......I guess it's a reflection of the times we live in...now, everybody gets a trophy just for showing up...
 

arnaldo

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Just got a PM asking about this "decline of road players" article and thought that folks new to AZB (within the last two years) might also be interested in reading it.

Arnaldo
 

Chip Roberson

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About a year before his death occurred, Wade Crane dropped in by my home for a visit,,and to talk a little bizness. We talked over old times,,and being on the road during Mr Carters Depression ,,as he called it. I hadn't been out in years,,family and my sales job,, doing well,,left no time for stalking prey.
Billy put it this way,,once there was a time, you would hear of a tourny 3 or 4 states away, that would be coming up , in say about a month or so. You would leave out and hit lots of spots between , where ever you were and where the tourny was to be held. In a few weeks , you could be fat with the cash needed for high stake's when it came time to get down. He then told me,,now if you find out somethings going on in a month,,you just drive straight there,,all those little spots are just about gone....He was about spot on..those little town pool rooms have dwindled to just about a memory of what they were.
 
Just got a PM asking about this "decline of road players" article and thought that folks new to AZB (within the last two years) might also be interested in reading it.

Arnaldo

I subscribe to the N.Y. Times and I saved that article when that paper came out. It's from 2007.

ONB
 

CJ Wiley

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I really never feel like I "beat" someone playing "one foul rules"

Yes, it wasn't uncommon for us to play 2-3 straight days straight. The common thing in the finals was to try to "bet it all"..... there was a lot of side action.

When you play a guy 20 straight hours and use 'Two Foul' Rules there is a true winner. I really never feel like I "beat" someone playing "one foul rules".....usually, I feel like Efren, that "I just got lucky".


VERY well said....back in the day it was more about who was the BEST. The trophy,the title....YOUR NAME at the far right of the bracket board. It was as much about pride as it was about money......I guess it's a reflection of the times we live in...now, everybody gets a trophy just for showing up...
 

ShootingArts

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big fish eat little fish, . . . and killed gambling at pool

It was a good article but road players still have their opportunities. Perhaps the information field is a little more level but is that a bad thing? Road hustlers usually knew what their targets ate for breakfast every morning before they pounced. Now is still a decent time for road warriors that carefully pick their moves, not so good of a time for hustlers although they can still do OK too. There were some youngsters passed through awhile back. I was about 99% sure they were mistaken about what their names were and confused about what state they came from. It wasn't important and they weren't playing pilgrims.

Walmart has done more to destroy the small business communities nationwide than the recessions, tight money, china, anything you can name. With their never ending quest for more profits they want every dime a person spends. It isn't enough they had dry goods, now drugs, groceries, optics, hair care, banking, I don't pay them much mind but I'm sure there are a few more things they have going in the front of their stores I ignore.

The casinos and lottery are the same way, they want zero competition. They squeezed out small poker tournaments in my state, got them outlawed, and keep a close eye on pool tournaments seeking anything they can deem illegal to run to the police with.

They also want in every corner. Video poker is everywhere, even in the few remaining pool halls, every café, every truck stop, all over the place. The same company makes all of those machines, owned by the family.

Gamblers can satisfy their jones on the video poker machine or at almost every checkout counter at a convenience store. No reason to side bet on pool matches, less reason to play pool, something that requires some effort.

Gambling on every street corner killed pool, horse racing except where it is subsidized by casinos by law, and pretty much all small time gambling. Even bingo halls are going away or are gone.

The information on the internet didn't do as much harm as the gambling. It was easier before the US clamped down on internet gambling but anyone that wants to can still lay around in their tighty-whiteys and gamble all day without ever getting out of bed.

What killed pool was widely available easier ways to gamble. Or to be more accurate, all of this other gambling took almost all of the floating money out of the poolroom.

Hu
 
There's a lot killing action.

85 percent of players wouldn't bet that water is wet. You can give them the 7 out and the breaks and they just won't gamble. They say they don't believe in it , it's somehow immoral but bottom line they are scared. Yes many are just flat broke.

I know guys with all kinds on money that won't bet over 50 a set! One guy plays strong and carries at least a grand on him all the time. If he had heart he'd make money easy but it's just not in him, he's petrified with fear unless he's stealing.

Most guys that will still bet don't ever make the games. They call nobody out. Sit back and ask for big spots. Then they play lock artist when they get up a little. Seems like guys like me work so hard to give up spots just to stay active. I never get the nuts matching up.

I've had the window wide open here for 3 years and I'm down to maybe 4 guys that will play. Only a couple for more than 200 a set.

I'm wanting to play ahead sets, Best of 3 sets, race to 21...whatever so someone actually wins a few hundred to a thousand. How these guys grind all night for 40 bucks minus table time is beyond me. I'd rather be home with the family, my tables are here so I can play whenever.

I travel to various events and play guys for 40 a rack or short sets for 3 to 5 hundred and it's easy. Honestly it's less hassle to get action from strangers who I don't know their speed.

I matchup good more often than not and make some money. I used to make 5 to 8 k a year on pool with little effort. The money won and lost is a measure of ability in my opinion. I make great money working so I don't play pool to eat. I play pool to compete. It's about finding out who's the best that day.
 
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Chip Roberson

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Bill (Irving) Lawson,,once beat a gent , out california way , out of 600 bucks , playing a quarter a game. When they were through,,the gent Bill was playing told him, If ya ever back this way look me up again. Bill told him something to the effect,,he could keep his quarters he wouldn't be back...think he didn't work to make that little hall....He told me once--you gotta ask every human to play when ever ya can ,,and stay at it....
 

CJ Wiley

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sometime getting paid is an entirely different challenge

Isn't that the truth!!!

Being a "Road Player" is much more difficult than having a "regular job". Besides the danger, it's taxing on the mind, body and spirit - not to mention the fact that you must win to get paid.....and sometime getting paid is an entirely different challenge. ;)



If you think being a road player isn't work then it's clear you've never done it.
 

Wedge

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Wow

Bill (Irving) Lawson,,once beat a gent , out california way , out of 600 bucks , playing a quarter a game. When they were through,,the gent Bill was playing told him, If ya ever back this way look me up again. Bill told him something to the effect,,he could keep his quarters he wouldn't be back...think he didn't work to make that little hall....He told me once--you gotta ask every human to play when ever ya can ,,and stay at it....

That would be 2,400 racks.....how long was that session?

Wedge
 
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