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Island Drive

Island Drive

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The break in 9 or ten ball is such (to an Old player), that a player who can't beat you but can break waaaay better can beat you. Next time I get hooked up with one of these players I will make one stipulation, first shot after the break ''MUST be a roll out'', even if he didn't make a ball and its My shot, I too must roll out.
 
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That's like getting mad because a guy can out drive you on the golf course, and making him tee off with a 7 iron. Its all part of the game. If he breaks better than you, then practice your break, or beat him with safetys.

Joe
 
Island Drive said:
The break in 9 or ten ball is such an inflention, shot that a player who can't beat you but can break waaaay better can beat you. Next time I get hooked up with one of these players I will make one stipulation, first shot after the break ''MUST be a roll out'', even if he didn't make a ball and its My shot, I too must roll out.
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I like it - choosing a good push out and deciding whether to accept it is much more interesting than the break.

Anyway, contrary to popular mythology, who breaks makes no statistical difference in who wins.

Plus I break like Urkel.

pj
chgo
 
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I hear way more complaints about rotation games and luck than I care to listen too.

If you don't like the luck factor in 9 ball, play a different game.

Seriously, how often do you hear people complain about losing a game of one pocket because of luck?
 
I break WAY better than A LOT of people I can't beat. Don't understand why you wouldn't just learn to break better. I work on my break regularly, it's the most important shot in the game, you should practice it as such.

Best,

Justin
 
supergreenman said:
I hear way more complaints about rotation games and luck than I care to listen too.

If you don't like the luck factor in 9 ball, play a different game.

Seriously, how often do you hear people complain about losing a game of one pocket because of luck?
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If the first shot after the crack of the break is a roll out from either player, the luck factor, like you mentioned above, is something that diminishes greatly, and its a good way to handicap a game.

To answer your statement about one pocket, all the time....
 
Great advice, snipershot! :thumbup: I was just in your pool room (Ryno Room) on Sunday, giving a lesson.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

snipershot said:
That's like getting mad because a guy can out drive you on the golf course, and making him tee off with a 7 iron. Its all part of the game. If he breaks better than you, then practice your break, or beat him with safetys.

Joe
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snipershot said:
That's like getting mad because a guy can out drive you on the golf course, and making him tee off with a 7 iron. Its all part of the game. If he breaks better than you, then practice your break, or beat him with safetys.

Joe
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Matchin' up has no limits and is a very creative & important part of one on one play. Some ask for the 8, others want more, others only give the last two and so on. There are Many other ways to create and get a game....than the simplicity of the above handicaps. Hell Richie Florence beat Medina in his prime on a big table because of one rule stipulation, you had to call the pocket your next ball was going into before you pocketed your current shot. Seeing, realizing and adjusting to your opponent and the conditions are ALL part of the game. By thinking outside the box you'll get more action and learn more about its implications good or bad. If it wasn't for this we would still be playing roll out 9 ball and no ball in hand on a break scratch.
 
That is a great idea for 9 ball and 10 ball match-ups.

My break is extremley week and I only gamble on 1 hole but this could make for some interesting play.
 
Island Drive said:
Matchin' up has no limits and is a very creative & important part of one on one play. Some ask for the 8, others want more, others only give the last two and so on. There are Many other ways to create and get a game....than the simplicity of the above handicaps. Hell Richie Florence beat Medina in his prime on a big table because of one rule stipulation, you had to call the pocket your next ball was going into before you pocketed your current shot. Seeing, realizing and adjusting to your opponent and the conditions are ALL part of the game. By thinking outside the box you'll get more action and learn more about its implications good or bad. If it wasn't for this we would still be playing roll out 9 ball and no ball in hand on a break scratch.
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That will be the kind of response you get, though. That's what's happened to 9 ball as a result of the current rules.
 
So there are several solutions to the break problem at nine ball. "First shooter pushes" is one. Another is Paul Schofield's "breaker shoots the first shot." Another would be "breaker pushes".

I think these are all better than the current rule, but I don't like to break.

The break at nine ball is broken. Just ask Joe Tucker.
 
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