Group Buy: 2x4 Whitten-looking case

They sure are not what this guy is asking for them by any means. My opinion he is preying on the people of this board that may not know better.
 
You are very welcome

DJEnD said:
The moment I see one of these cases, I just get reminded of a Whitten.

It also shows how Whittens have carved themselves an image that everyone can identify with.

The reason why I used the name it's simply because, it reminds me of one.

There are many ways to speculate why I would use the name but that's up to anyone's imagination.

Thanks for all the negative comments.
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This has been hopefully a very informative lesson in marketing ethics for you, and perhaps this case company can create their own design, and have some Quality Control in the future.....and then again perhaps not.
 
not to mention that Whitten sells them on Ebay for $285 occasionally.all you have to do is wait and you get the real thing for an extra $5.
 
For starters, that link which is posted, that's not the one I've taken pictures of. If you look closer, there's only 4 studs at the bottom of the case, whereas the one I have has 12.

I know what this sounds like to everyone, nothing but a scam. But you can think what you want to. I figure that it's hard to change the mindset of such a close-knitted community(not that I want to in the first place), but as I've said, if supporting American made is the way, then please do so. There are some people who can't afford the American made, so there is always an option. But if they insist on American made, then it stays that way. I don't force them to buy anything else.

And also, it's important to have opinions from other people about products they don't know of, especially group buys. I know it's to protect the interest of consumers in the light of internet scamming these days. But you don't have to discourage other people who want to take advantage of the deal, unless of course it is really the lousy deal they're getting.

I would not want to argue with anyone here because I've found this place to be a mainstay for billiards information. Day in day out, I learn more about custom cues and appreciate them more everyday, but maybe because of where I come from people find it hard to accept my legitimacy.

Good day everyone, it's noon here...:)
 
For the question asked earlier, the weight of the case is about 5lbs and over, pretty heavy for a case you may ask. I did feel the same way when I got my piece, but that's how it is. Shipping may be more expensive due to that.

As for pricing, I'm currently working out with my friend on whether I can get it reduced because then it'll have to debadge the brand name pasted on the case. That can be done as what he told me, but he can only tell me later.

I know that wholesale prices are definitely lower than that, but I understand from my point of view that it's just the way people do business. But in a sense it's a relatively better deal.

Regards,
ZJ
 
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Question: Just for my information. Why would the cases have to be "debadged"? I'm guessing that means you are taking the nameplate or brand logo off of the front, right? My question is why are you taking off the advertisement. If the cases are a good deal, someone else might search for that case brand to buy it. By debadging, your losing any chance of more business for your friend. And by the way, your making it look even more like a Whitten.
 
Hi-Von, just curious where you bought yours from and why you bought one I seen these cases about a month ago at ebayhc or whatever before this , I was thinking back then it sounds like a good deal for one because I know woman who have fake LV pocket books and I've asked them if they could tell between a real one and a fake one and they all say they can't , but then I also was thinking for a $100.00 or so more why take a chance!


Steven





VonRhett said:
Did you READ my post??

I don't give a dam where they're made - they are CRAP!!

By far the lowest-quality case I could ever imagine.

At $39.00, I wouldn't utter a peep. But this company is ONLY charging this exorbitant amount because they "look like a Whitten". Which, really, they don't.

The are praying on people who want a nice classy Whitten case but can't afford one.

As I previously wrote, these cases are EXTREMELY POOR QUALITY!!
Not just when compared to a Whitten, Justis or Murnack, but when compared to ANYTHING!

Regardless of where they are made, they are pieces of crap and are not worth $49.00 including shipping!!

Again - I OWNED ONE OF THESE. I'm BASHING it because it is such a rip-off at any price over $39.00 - not because of where it's made but because of HOW it's made!!

Clear enough??

-von
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shamadam said:
Question: Just for my information. Why would the cases have to be "debadged"? I'm guessing that means you are taking the nameplate or brand logo off of the front, right? My question is why are you taking off the advertisement. If the cases are a good deal, someone else might search for that case brand to buy it. By debadging, your losing any chance of more business for your friend. And by the way, your making it look even more like a Whitten.
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From what my friend tells me, he says that because when it's badged, a retail price has been put on these brands of cases. And so to undercharge would be hurting the brand name in future, and this is because right now, my friend is trying to get the cases to be cheaper for the people here to purchase. That's what I understand from his words.
 
And to note, if my words have given some untrue facts, these cases are handmade, therefore the higher price. I have a few grey/black cases with me, about 3, ready to ship anytime. These will be going at 240 shipped.
 
DJEnD said:
From what my friend tells me, he says that because when it's badged, a retail price has been put on these brands of cases. And so to undercharge would be hurting the brand name in future, and this is because right now, my friend is trying to get the cases to be cheaper for the people here to purchase. That's what I understand from his words.
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I really don't care either way, but it would seem to me that the only reasons that a case or anyother product would need the brand removed prior to shipment into the US would be:

1. The items are seconds
2. The items are stolen
3. The items are knock-offs and would create an infringement on US copyright, and would probably be seized by US Customs upon entry.

I am not saying that any of these would fit in this incident, nor am I accusing anyone of anything, but when a person wants to import a product, but needs to remove the logo/brand, this is what it makes me think of.
 
i still don't see why someone would buy one of these cases for $240 when you can get a Whitten on Ebay for $285 from Whitten themselves,if you wait and look.
 
I have no idea what that guys really saying these go for on ebay $125+41 shipping to the USA


http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250107968936&ih=015&category=44077

I believe these are the same without the tag that he mentions the guy has different colors also


after looking at his and this one it seems his alot better quality but Vonrhett says they suck ,



masonh said:
i still don't see why someone would buy one of these cases for $240 when you can get a Whitten on Ebay for $285 from Whitten themselves,if you wait and look.
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justabrake said:
I have no idea what that guys really saying these go for on ebay $125+41 shipping to the USA


http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250107968936&ih=015&category=44077

I believe these are the same without the tag that he mentions the guy has different colors also


after looking at his and this one it seems his alot better quality but Vonrhett says they suck ,
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I have to repeat, they are not the same ones. They do look the same, but the quality is much inferior.
 
Bamacues said:
I really don't care either way, but it would seem to me that the only reasons that a case or anyother product would need the brand removed prior to shipment into the US would be:

1. The items are seconds
2. The items are stolen
3. The items are knock-offs and would create an infringement on US copyright, and would probably be seized by US Customs upon entry.

I am not saying that any of these would fit in this incident, nor am I accusing anyone of anything, but when a person wants to import a product, but needs to remove the logo/brand, this is what it makes me think of.
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I can understand your point of view. But don't all branded stuff command high retail prices? Put cues aside, talk about branded leather goods like handbags and wallets. Imitation are every where and they command RELATIVE cheap prices, even though it still costs a few hundred dollars, just because the brand is still stamped on it.

I have no qualification to debate on this matter because I'm just posting the case for order. Not that I'm shunning away from responsibility, but I have no connections to the company's dealings and such, so such elaborate details are transparent to me. I'm just trying to make everything good as it can possibly be.

Zhenjie
 
DJEnD said:
I can understand your point of view. But don't all branded stuff command high retail prices? Put cues aside, talk about branded leather goods like handbags and wallets. Imitation are every where and they command RELATIVE cheap prices, even though it still costs a few hundred dollars, just because the brand is still stamped on it.

I have no qualification to debate on this matter because I'm just posting the case for order. Not that I'm shunning away from responsibility, but I have no connections to the company's dealings and such, so such elaborate details are transparent to me. I'm just trying to make everything good as it can possibly be.

Zhenjie
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Zhenjie, I understand your position, and I am not trying to bust your chops or anything. I was just curious as to why your source felt he had to remove the logo. It isn't like they are being sold by an authorized dealer who has contractual obligations with the company not to advertise below a certain price. I used to do a lot of travelling in the far east. In Thailand, you could pick up knock-offs of everything from Tommy Hilfiger to high end hand bags, to pirated movies/software. As US Government representatives, we were always warned about the potential problems associated with bringing these unauthorized copies into the US.
Joe
 
Bamacues said:
Zhenjie, I understand your position, and I am not trying to bust your chops or anything. I was just curious as to why your source felt he had to remove the logo. It isn't like they are being sold by an authorized dealer who has contractual obligations with the company not to advertise below a certain price. I used to do a lot of travelling in the far east. In Thailand, you could pick up knock-offs of everything from Tommy Hilfiger to high end hand bags, to pirated movies/software. As US Government representatives, we were always warned about the potential problems associated with bringing these unauthorized copies into the US.
Joe
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Dealership stuff is definitely out of my reach, but I do remember him saying about dealers in the US. Not too sure about that, can't confirm that. Thanks Joe.

Zhenjie
 
could you say who the 3 buyers that are in on this deal and how do we no that this is a legitt buy from you , you have a (1) feedback and your in singapore or somewhere what gauranteed that anyone has that you'll deliver , just a question

Steven
 
justabrake said:
could you say who the 3 buyers that are in on this deal and how do we no that this is a legitt buy from you , you have a (1) feedback and your in singapore or somewhere what gauranteed that anyone has that you'll deliver , just a question

Steven
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Hi Steven,

to answer your question, first of all, I said that 3 were interested, but they have not confirmed any orders as yet.

I have a (1) feedback, but so do many people here because the iTrader was just established not long ago.

I'm in Singapore yes. My references include thingie and most recently, I sent a Brunswick George case to cuesblues who resides in America.

Additional: I have the grey/black case back at my place and my friend has I think 1 or 2 more back at his. I took the pictures yesterday. Here they are.



Zhenjie
 
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