Guns and Cues, Show us your Piece

Allen Brown said:
There is a video somewhere on YouTube of an air rifle shooting through a cast iron pot. I forget exactly what brand it was, but I found it when I was wanting a new toy that was quiet and cheap to shoot. Air rifles have come a long way.
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I have a Winchester model 1000 single-pump air rifle, .177 caliber. I was sighting it in with a scope in my house because the distance from the back of my bedroom wall, down the hallway to the linen closet door was the same distance as my bird feeder was from my front door.

Now....I have a neighborhood full of squirrels that take great pleasure in dumping all the food out of my bird feeder....well, I USED to have a neighborhood full of squirrels :wink:............

Well, knowing the advertised velocity of this rifle (1,200 f.p.s.).....I decided to back my target with first a 3/4" piece of plywood underneath a phonebook that was a good inch-and-a-half thick.

Well.....needless to say the three sighting-in shots I took for grouping went through not only the phonebook AND plywood, but completely penetrated the door also...the three pellets (pointed game pellets) settling into one of my wife's favorite quilts (yes...I got my a$$ reamed-out, big-time).

Air rifles are NOT to be taken lightly...even the American versions. I think mine could kill a man if the pellet missed any major bone mass.

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ctyhntr said:
In this country airguns are seen as toys; Daisy and Crosman. So, outside of paintball there isn't enough demand to warrant designing/making a good quality airgun. For high end stuff, Daisy and Crosman import and relabel foreign brands.

Some countries have restrictions on airguns. In the UK, anything over 12 foot/pounds requires a firearms certificates. As Mr. Wilson stated, Korea has very restrictive guns laws and these types of air guns were developed in response to civilian needs.

When I was a kid, I used the latest Beeman and Air Rifles HQ catalogs. Back then the most powerful airguns were either the Feinwerkbau 124, Diana 45, and they only shot 800 fps at at .177. The Korean Yewha shotgun (25 caliber), was supposedly more powerful than the german offerings, but were hard to find.

The newer generations from Korea are repeaters, and big bore (.38 and .50). I heard people hunting razorbacks with these.
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I bought my oldest grandson a 22/177 caliber pellet gun this year that wasn't cheap. I think it was around 300 and shot close to a 22 short on fps. I think it was 1500 or 1800fps. I had the Crossman 177 when I was young and had no idea they had these type of air rifles until my grandson woke me up to it.
 
macguy said:
No that 30% is the number. You will on the average collect $1.30 for every $1.00 you put in. That is current. If you retired in 1980 you would have collected $3.00 for every $1.00 you put in. And again if you have an illness you will most likely cost the system far more then you put in.

If you take like someone 90 years old. When they began collecting they were at the break-even point at like 7 years. People that age when they were younger only paid into SS as little as $4.00 a month. It was never meant to be a retirement fund, just a small safety net.

I am not making any judgments just telling you the numbers. I was wondering if old people were the freeloaders you were referring to since you will most certainly be one of them as well who should lose the right to vote? Unless you die early of course.

I don't know how they figure the solvency thing. It depends whose numbers you look at and you can't trust either. Heck, look how many people never collect because they die early or collect almost nothing because they don't live long past retirement. Those though depending on how they die, can eat up everything they put in and then some in no time.
End of life is the kicker.

People may use as much medical cost in the last 60 days on life as they have for the entire previous life since birth. There is the waste. When my mother died there was a bill for a pacemaker they put in her in the hospital the last day of her life. They put it in a dead person. Not to mention they stole her weddings off her hand in the hospital before she died. Her knuckles were huge from arthritis. Someone would have to have used a cutter to get them off and I guess someone did.

I am going to end this though because it has nothing to do with the guns and cues thread.
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Just heard of this one. I ran my own business for 14 years, averaged paying just the feds 18,000 a year, not counting state, for 11 years.I showed a lose the last three years because I became disabled and they claimed I was not eligible any longer for ss disability. They claimed they go back 10 years and not paying into it the last three disqualified me. People need to remember this as I would have showed a gain the last couple of years regardless.
 
1pRoscoe said:
Guns are the devil!!!!
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There is nothing worse than looking down the barrel of the devils gun.
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macguy said:
If this was the 1920's in the words of Damon Runyon, "Roscoe is packing a pretty nice Roscoe".
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Thanks, a few of my others are a bit too bulky to carry and more expensive to shoot...

<-- loves .22... but believes in diversified firepower...

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1pRoscoe said:
Thanks, a few of my others are a bit too bulky to carry and more expensive to shoot...

<-- loves .22... but believes in diversified firepower...

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Geeze Louise! Remind me to call before I pull up the driveway.
 
Ross, is that little short one an AR 15 receiver? Did you build it yourself?
 
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TATE said:
Ross, is that little short one an AR 15 receiver? Did you build it yourself?
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Hey Chris - yup, built the 3 AR platforms, they are pretty easy, actually... The top one with a can is 5.56, as is the pistol (little short one). The one on the bottom is 5.45x39.

The pistol is built just like any other AR platform weapon, except there isn't a stock on it, and it has a 9.5" barrel. If you were to put a stock on it, it would automatically become a big no no, as it would be a short barreled rifle. You can't own an SBR without a stamp from the ATF, which means give them $200 and wait a year and you can put a stock on it.

I probably have enough parts to build 3-4 more and then some, but it's a matter of time.... My next one with be a .300BLK SBR w/ can, just waiting on one stamp to cut the barrel down.
 
1pRoscoe said:
Hey Chris - yup, built the 3 AR platforms, they are pretty easy, actually... The top one with a can is 5.56, as is the pistol (little short one). The one on the bottom is 5.45x39.

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I like the bottom one (the RECCE-ish AR). Just curious why you went with a 5.45 Russian round?


Eric
 
TATE said:
Geeze Louise! Remind me to call before I pull up the driveway.
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With that rig he's showing at the top of the picture....he's gonna nail you LONG before you get to the driveway!!! :grin:

I'm going to guess .308 or .338 Lapua???

Maniac
 
1pRoscoe said:
Hey Chris - yup, built the 3 AR platforms, they are pretty easy, actually... The top one with a can is 5.56, as is the pistol (little short one). The one on the bottom is 5.45x39.

The pistol is built just like any other AR platform weapon, except there isn't a stock on it, and it has a 9.5" barrel. If you were to put a stock on it, it would automatically become a big no no, as it would be a short barreled rifle. You can't own an SBR without a stamp from the ATF, which means give them $200 and wait a year and you can put a stock on it.

I probably have enough parts to build 3-4 more and then some, but it's a matter of time.... My next one with be a .300BLK SBR w/ can, just waiting on one stamp to cut the barrel down.
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That looks like fun. I especially like the pistol. I never thought about assembling my own but I see a lot of people doing it now. That would be a lot of firepower in a pistol.
 
DAVE_M said:
Spam cans of 5.45 are all over the place. It's just a pain to clean up afterwards.
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Thats the rub- it aint that much cheaper than .223/5/56. Plus, you aren't limited to a limited selection of crap ammo.


Eric
 
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