Had my shaft turned down, may be regretting it.

Whats your shaft size?

  • 13 mm plus

    Votes: 11 12.2%

  • 12.5 to 13 mm

    Votes: 58 64.4%

  • 12.0 to 12.5 mm

    Votes: 13 14.4%

  • less than 12 mm

    Votes: 8 8.9%
  • Total voters
    90
YaktyYak

YaktyYak

Pool Player
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I had my Ob-1 shaft turned from the stock 12.75 mm to around 12.3 mm and had a moori med replace the everest tip. My line of thinking was that by turning the shaft down, I may have a little more accuracy. Played with it today and it is so different. It even hits alot firmer too sit seems. Also the cue seems very unforgiving through a bad stroke or follow through. It seems harder to gauge follow, draw, and english. Dunno if overall if this was a good idea. Don't get me wrong, it still feels great, just as happy with that as before but playabillity of the whole deal is way off. I think I may be getting to much action on the cue ball and now its overkill. May be I am just not used to it yet and may have it to give a few weeks to see if it is helping or hurting my game. Jury is still out on this one. Thanks for any input you guys may have.

- Kyle
 
Your choices for size should be listed seperately.

I don't shoot with any of those. Mine is 12.5MM.

Not 12.0 to 12.5, not 12.5 to 13.0.

Don't know about turning down an OB1 though....
 
poolhustler said:
Your choices for size should be listed seperately.

I don't shoot with any of those. Mine is 12.5MM.

Not 12.0 to 12.5, not 12.5 to 13.0.

Don't know about turning down an OB1 though....
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Good point, haha. Should have been less than 12 mm, 12mm to 12.49, 12.5 to 12.99, and 13 mm plus
 
Time will tell but honestly I don't think you should expect to hit just as good or better with it right at first. The problems you are having with honestly seem to be good problems; stiffer feels, over playing, too much english....these are things that you will fine tune over time...and things that you will adjust to... and honestly that cue being unforgiving could be a good thing too...its seems to me that that means it is responsive and will tell you a lot about each shot you take; give you better feedback...over time you will be able to use this to your advantage!
 
Texas Prez said:
Time will tell but honestly I don't think you should expect to hit just as good or better with it right at first. The problems you are having with honestly seem to be good problems; stiffer feels, over playing, too much english....these are things that you will fine tune over time...and things that you will adjust to... and honestly that cue being unforgiving could be a good thing too...its seems to me that that means it is responsive and will tell you a lot about each shot you take; give you better feedback...over time you will be able to use this to your advantage!
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That was one of my thoughts, sacrifice my game now to play better later. I hope it works out like that, however most options and changes in pool equipment tend to be personal orientated versus instant success. Time will tell. Thanks for the advice.

-Kyle
 
314

I play with a 314.

There is a guy I know who plays with a maple shaft turned down to under 11,he plays real strong.He also has a super long bridge,he touches the joint on his cue on his follow-through.Sorta unbelievable that he can play like that without miscuing all the time.
 
One guy I shoot with occasionally brings an old 1 piece dufferin snooker cue that has 9mm tip. He shoots and breaks with it. I tried playing with it without much luck. He swears by it.
 
YaktyYak said:
I had my Ob-1 shaft turned from the stock 12.75 mm to around 12.3 mm and had a moori med replace the everest tip. My line of thinking was that by turning the shaft down, I may have a little more accuracy. Played with it today and it is so different. It even hits alot firmer too sit seems. Also the cue seems very unforgiving through a bad stroke or follow through. It seems harder to gauge follow, draw, and english. Dunno if overall if this was a good idea. Don't get me wrong, it still feels great, just as happy with that as before but playabillity of the whole deal is way off. I think I may be getting to much action on the cue ball and now its overkill. May be I am just not used to it yet and may have it to give a few weeks to see if it is helping or hurting my game. Jury is still out on this one. Thanks for any input you guys may have.

- Kyle
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Kyle,
I had a Obi-1 shaft turned down by Mike Gulyassy with a long taper like what Earl Strickland uses and I could make certain spin shots easily with it but it was too hard for me to tame. I guess I got lucky when someone stole the darn shaft along with the rest of the cue. The smaller diameter (although I dont think it was down to 12.0) and longer taper made the cue ball do the funky dance too often. :D

JoeyA
 
I had mine turned down then put a hard tip on it and finally had a short ferrule put on. Never came up with a shaft I liked. It's in an old case somewhere around here. :(

Jim.... doesn't like the hit of OB's.
 
poolhustler said:
Don't know about turning down an OB1 though....
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Everyone has their own preferences, but for me I like the standard OB-1 size of 12.75mm. It suits my game perfectly on different size tables and I get all of the action I need from the shaft.

If 12.3mm suits you then that's the way for you to go, but 12.3mm doesn't feel right for me. I could probably get away with it on a small table, but I think it would hurt my game on a 9' table.

Best of luck with your shaft.

James
 
smoooothstroke said:
There is a guy I know who plays with a maple shaft turned down to under 11,he plays real strong.He also has a super long bridge,he touches the joint on his cue on his follow-through.Sorta unbelievable that he can play like that without miscuing all the time.
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His stroke must be dead straight to play with a shaft that small with a long bridge. I've never seen anyone follow through far enough to touch the joint!

James
 
I returned a 314 years ago to the factory because of a broken ferrule. When it was returned the shaft had been turned down to less than 12mm. I had a hard time using it. I had other players use it and they had the same results. You needed to have a great stroke to use this shaft. At the time Shane was still at Clawson cues and he sent me another shaft that had been a demo.

Paul Mon
 
YaktyYak said:
I had my Ob-1 shaft turned from the stock 12.75 mm to around 12.3 mm and had a moori med replace the everest tip. My line of thinking was that by turning the shaft down, I may have a little more accuracy. Played with it today and it is so different. It even hits alot firmer too sit seems. Also the cue seems very unforgiving through a bad stroke or follow through. It seems harder to gauge follow, draw, and english. Dunno if overall if this was a good idea. Don't get me wrong, it still feels great, just as happy with that as before but playabillity of the whole deal is way off. I think I may be getting to much action on the cue ball and now its overkill. May be I am just not used to it yet and may have it to give a few weeks to see if it is helping or hurting my game. Jury is still out on this one. Thanks for any input you guys may have.

- Kyle
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id say give it a couple of weeks. Once you get used to it and you tame that thing, all that action your gettin on the ball will come in handy; then you wont want to play with anything else.

gotta get used to it first though
 
YaktyYak said:
I had my Ob-1 shaft turned from the stock 12.75 mm to around 12.3 mm
- Kyle
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Kyle,
According to tests I've done reducing your cue diameter by 0.45mm, as you have done, will move your cue's intrinsic pivot point back about 1 inch.

So, if you bridge at about 1 inch further back than you usually do, you should find your english shots working as you've become used to.

Colin
 
YaktyYak said:
I had my Ob-1 shaft turned from the stock 12.75 mm to around 12.3 mm and had a moori med replace the everest tip. My line of thinking was that by turning the shaft down, I may have a little more accuracy. Played with it today and it is so different. It even hits alot firmer too sit seems. Also the cue seems very unforgiving through a bad stroke or follow through. It seems harder to gauge follow, draw, and english. Dunno if overall if this was a good idea. Don't get me wrong, it still feels great, just as happy with that as before but playabillity of the whole deal is way off. I think I may be getting to much action on the cue ball and now its overkill. May be I am just not used to it yet and may have it to give a few weeks to see if it is helping or hurting my game. Jury is still out on this one. Thanks for any input you guys may have.

- Kyle
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Seems to me that .45 mm is a pretty drastic change and might take a while to get used to. Did you consult with the OB-1 folks about why they were 12.75 and not less and if they thought 12.3 was a good idea?
My current playing cue is 12.5, I wouldn't want to go any smaller.
 
I had my cuemaker turn down my 30" OB-1 shaft to 12.6 mm and it plays great. I couple it up with a 30" Bob Frey ebony SP. The cue draws whitey effortlessly... better than any other cue/shaft that I own. :thumbup2:
 
JimS said:
Jim.... doesn't like the hit of OB's.
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I guess it has a subjective hit. I am one of the only one around here that has one. Most people have predator shafts or just use the shaft that came with the cue. I have had people hit around with my cue. I get mixed responses from a variety of skill levels of the players.

I was just referring to shafts in general being turned down mainly for the reason of finding something better, not just the OB-1 shaft.

However all the responses from OB-1 owners that has had their shaft turned down have been great!

-Kyle
 
So I guess if I don't like the new way it plays after giving it a while, I will be getting a new OB-1 soon. Any of you guys dealers for a great deal on a shaft? =)

I'll head back down to the pool hall tonight and see if I can do any better with it.

-Kyle
 
I used to play with a 314 on my Schon and decided to commit to a standard Schon shaft. I sent it to Evan Clarke to have it taken down to 12.75mm with the same Schon taper. It worked out great for me.
 
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