Hanging shaft wood

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When shaftwood is being turned down is it hung between turns and if so is it hung by the tip end or the joint end?
 
quedup said:
When shaftwood is being turned down is it hung between turns and if so is it hung by the tip end or the joint end?

I put mine in a rack, where they stand straight up...JER
 
I stand them in racks until I start taking the last .010" off. At that point I hang them by the tip end.
 
There are alot who hang there shafts by the tip end, not going to say it's wrong, but after talking to many who do this, the main reason I got was weight/gravity pulling down to help the shaft "not" warp. I hang mine the opposite way, Joint up, if the shaft is going to warp I want it to warp in my shop, not in the customers hands, like anything nothing is 100%, I just think it's a better way to ensure quality.
 
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RFisher said:
There are alot who hang there shafts by the tip end, not going to say it's wrong, but after talking to many who do this, the main reason I got was weight/gravity pulling down to help the shaft "not" warp. I hang mine the opposite way, Joint up, if the shaft is going to warp I want it to warp in my shop, not in the customers hands, like anything nothing is 100%, I just think it's a better way to ensure quality.
I agree. I used to hang them form the tip till about 2 years ago when the light bulb came on.
 
RFisher said:
There are alot who hang there shafts by the tip end, not going to say it's wrong, but after talking to many who do this, the main reason I got was weight/gravity pulling down to help the shaft "not" warp. I hang mine the opposite way, Joint up, if the shaft is going to warp I want it to warp in my shop, not in the customers hands, like anything nothing is 100%, I just think it's a better way to ensure quality.
I think that makes sense.
 
Thanks for the replies. I asked because I have had some shafts warp and I wanted to know what is the best way to store shafts when not in use for some time. Mine are in cases and stand upright tip up or tip down. I guess considering weight and gravity they should stand joint down or be hung joint down.
Thanks
Dan
 
RocketQ said:
I agree. I used to hang them form the tip till about 2 years ago when the light bulb came on.

Do you care to elaborate a bit more? Are you saying that it is best to not have gravity interfere? That the weight or gravity inhibits some movement of the shaft it it wants to move?

Not challenging here, just looking for additional thoughts:)

Thanks in adavance!
~Chris
 
I started with hanging my shafts by the tip end and I've had one shaft warp. I switched to hanging them by the joint end and so far, no warped shafts (knock on wood). I don't have any scientific explanation - I think it's just a matter of preference and hanging it either way will not prevent warpage any better than the other IMHO.
 
Wood is wood....warpage is warpage......your going to lose a few through the process. I used to hang mine till I stumbled across a rolling rack that holds 500 plus sticks. Now they sit tip down until they get to approx .560 on the business end.
It was a pain in the hairy hole taking all the shafts down.....putting them in a bucket.....running them through the cutter.....hanging them back up.....waiting to do it all over again.......Now I just roll the rack over to Mr. Shaft cutter and sawdust away......
When they are tip up, I know they're ready for final cuts and sit like that till needed.
I will occasionally segregate some sticks that have those extra special qualities and hang them at the front of the class.

<~~~has not noticed any additional warpage since not hanging my shafts.....

I use no additives on my shafts either.....just bare, beautiful wood.
 
2 reasons

Poulos Cues said:
Do you care to elaborate a bit more? Are you saying that it is best to not have gravity interfere? That the weight or gravity inhibits some movement of the shaft it it wants to move?

Not challenging here, just looking for additional thoughts:)

Thanks in adavance!
~Chris
First reason is that I had a hole in the ferrule end of the shaft. Didn't like that.
Second reason the additional weight no matter what it is between the butt end or tip end really won't make too much of a diffference. If it wants to go it is gonna go the small amount of gravitational weight will not make much difference.

As to the tap tap tap on my previous post it was to this comment. From Bryan Fisher.

"if the shaft is going to warp I want it to warp in my shop, not in the customers hands, like anything nothing is 100%"
 
I hang mine tip up. No warp altering reason, but I do it. I have pulled shafts down to cut & have them leaning against the wall waiting to be cut, then get sidetracked & go on a trip for 2-3 weeks, forgetting that the shafts are leaning. I get back to the shop & proceed with the cuts & find no unexpected warpage. I'm pretty convinced that shafts will warp if the want to, and we can't do a thing about it. On the same note, it's tough to make a good shaft warp. Good shafts endure lots of abuse & keep on keepin' on.
 
I hang them at the big end. There is a very, very slight chance that the screw in the tip end could split the wood, At the joint end, that much thicker area, is drilled out.

Wareping happens because sometimes it just does.
 
RocketQ said:
First reason is that I had a hole in the ferrule end of the shaft. Didn't like that.
Second reason the additional weight no matter what it is between the butt end or tip end really won't make too much of a diffference. If it wants to go it is gonna go the small amount of gravitational weight will not make much difference.

As to the tap tap tap on my previous post it was to this comment. From Bryan Fisher.

"if the shaft is going to warp I want it to warp in my shop, not in the customers hands, like anything nothing is 100%"

Thanks!
I hang mine by the tip end. I used to hang a few ounces of weight from the bottom of them as well. Not anymore. I cut the center hole and a bit past that off from every shaft so I have no danger of having a hole there.

Paul- I could see that it MIGHT have a chance to crack the shaft, but it hasn't happened yet...YET!

Thanks to everyone :)
~ Chris
 
Hanging shaft wood.

I've always hung mine by the big end. But I have no idea why.
Dave, where can I buy a Mr. Shaft machine.
 
cutter said:
I've always hung mine by the big end. But I have no idea why.
Dave, where can I buy a Mr. Shaft machine.

Man, I love it when Steve puts in some detailed time and technical thought as to why we should do something a certain way!


<~~~I can rent mine out for small fee...........but thinks you already have one!......
 
Ok, I didn't want to get into it, but allowing for phase shift, time warp, corelois effect and the angle of the dangle, I decided that butt up was better than butt down. Course this is only true if you don't use stabilizer on your shaft wood. If you do, then it all goes to heck. Then you have to make sure that if it's canadian maple that you have atleast one hockey puck(excluding cuemaker)located near the wood to keep it from becoming home sick. I rotate mine monthly so a different side is facing the windows. Want to make sure they have a consistant tan, and I've found thru scientific study that vitamin D had a profound effect on the playability of shafts.
 
cutter said:
Ok, I didn't want to get into it, but allowing for phase shift, time warp, corelois effect and the angle of the dangle, I decided that butt up was better than butt down. Course this is only true if you don't use stabilizer on your shaft wood. If you do, then it all goes to heck. Then you have to make sure that if it's canadian maple that you have atleast one hockey puck(excluding cuemaker)located near the wood to keep it from becoming home sick. I rotate mine monthly so a different side is facing the windows. Want to make sure they have a consistant tan, and I've found thru scientific study that vitamin D had a profound effect on the playability of shafts.

So thats why my wife keeps giving me Vitamin D in the morning with my oatmeal:grin-square:
 
You sure it's vitamin D. I heard that those little blue pills work on shafts also.
 
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