Has anyone read the HORSES**T rules put up on wikipedia for Golf?

greyghost

greyghost

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It does not state anything about the ability or non ability of hitting an opponents ball first. What is stated in the "rules" of the game leads one to believe, or can one to believe that this can be played by "bar" rules....which is totally not true. Believe me I do know that rules variate around the country, such as a hickie ball, and in some places calling that your hooked.....i bring this up because i ran into a game where they learned to play it off wiki and they insisted that hitting an opponents ball first was within the rules....and looking at the table from the break side (head) the one hole was at the right hand side (WTF...pardon my french)

I've played golf all over the country....left and right, and i've seen a handful of variable rules, but nothing that compares to what i saw this evening. Regardless of what i've seen (hickie balls, call your hooked etc...) am i F*kn crazy or what?

If someone here doesnt go ahead and fix the trash on this great game on wiki, I will my self put all normal REAL rules, plus anything i have seen diff in my travels....which none of goes against anything in pocket billiards.

You can not make contact with another players ball prior to yours and if an opponent makes your or anothers ball in their pocket then it counts for that person whos ball that pocket was for...

tell me if i'm losing my mind or not guys and gals....because im 99.999999999 % sure i'm dead on

your greyness....
 
I agree, that article is whack...
Sad that a great game like golf doesn't have a good set of rules and variations that new players can easily find.
 
Always an interesting game with the differences in the hickies and such... Would like to actually see someone draft an official set and put it out here.. The last time I played it was with a guy from the Carolinas that I had beaten at 8ball 9ball 10ball and banks and he was desperate to win some of his money back... He had me on a bunch of the rules and I let him get about half his cash back before the room closed... Was no point arguing as I hadn't played in 2 decades and had no way to argue the rules one way or the other LOL... At that point I was less worried about winning than just taking my time and letting 3am show up....
 
The nice thing about wikipedia is that when you spot an error, you can log in and fix it yourself.

Now, chances are someone else will think it was correct the first time and go in and delete your changes, but that's the risk you take.
 
Rule #2 in the BCA "Billiards The Official Rules and Records Book"...

"On all shots it is necessary for the player to hit the object ball first."

Rule #5...

"It's a foul to hit another player's object ball first. If a player hits an opponent's object ball first, the player loses his turn, is credited with a hickey, and the opponent has the choice of returning the object ball to its original position."

I never trust anything on wikipedia. Any self-anointed "know it all" can post anything they want (fact or fiction). Obviously someone posted their bar-room rules on wiki because they were either too cheep to buy a BCA rules book, and/or too lazy to actually look up the rules of a game that they want to claim expert status on... as well as whoever you were playing that decided to go to wiki to get the rules instead of looking up the "official rules" in the BCA handbook (also posted online).

In any event... the BCA bible proves, that you knew the "official" rules and whoever you were playing against only knew the "bastardized" bar rules for the game.
Back in the day (decades ago)... I used to keep a copy of the BCA rules book in my car for use whenever I was going into a money situation. They really need to come out with a rules app.
 
How have you been Keebe?

I just had some very different but very good Jambalaya Saturday & some very good chicken & sausage gumbo Sunday.

Best to Y'a, & Merry Christmas,
Rick

PS There has been some pretty good action at Bufs & the new Lacy's in Challemette.
 
ENGLISH! said:
How have you been Keebe?

I just had some very different but very good Jambalaya Saturday & some very good chicken & sausage gumbo Sunday.

Best to Y'a, & Merry Christmas,
Rick

PS There has been some pretty good action at Bufs & the new Lacy's in Challemette.
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ahh great, i just picked up a bunch of sausage to make one myself......thats what i been hearing about lacys....gonna have to swing down there when i get the time.

Merry Christmas to you too rick.
 
peppersauce said:
I got into a golf game about a week ago and they were playing with some seriously f'd up rules. If you were standing at the head of the table, 1 hole was the right corner at the foot end, after the first player shoots the opening shot no BIH for the remainder of the other players opening shots, if you scratch you went backwards a hole... I was like seriously guys? By the time we were done I had them on track though and they actually liked the game better playing it like its supposed to be played. I'm not a big golfer but of the times I have played, those were the worst local rules I've ever seen. Maybe they looked it up on Wiki, lol.
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i think the moving back a hole on fouls is actually a rule.....in EUROPE.... its how they make you pay for your foul......in america its basically a gambling game, so we ususally just say play 1&5....1 dollar per hickie and 5 a game. The penalty is the money :)
 
greyghost said:
i think the moving back a hole on fouls is actually a rule.....in EUROPE.... its how they make you pay for your foul......in america its basically a gambling game, so we ususally just say play 1&5....1 dollar per hickie and 5 a game. The penalty is the money :)
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A written set of rules for golf is here, starting on page 5: http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/2011.pdf
including a bunch of variations I've seen.
 
When we played Golf at Eric's Billiards. If u intentionally hit an opponents ball first it was a flagrant foul and the person paid the out hole and his hickies and had to wait for the next game. If it was an unintentional hit on opponents ball then u went back a hole, cost a hickie, and loss of turn.
 
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I've never played the game currently called Golf, but, 30 or so years ago I played every now and then in a ring game they called Golf. I wouldn't know if it was or wasn't, and it's been so long I don't remember the rules, but I thought it was worth mentioning, maybe others have played it.

Back those days each player got a striped ball as their object ball, and it's solid color mate as their individual cue balls. There were 5 ( I think) wooden bullets placed on the table as obstacles that if hit and knocked over, cost strokes. That's about as much as I remember. I think we got paid by the hole. Not sure on that either. Anyway ... that was a while ago. :smile:
 
3andstop, was that in Canada somewhere? That's how I played growing up on the west coast. Brings back lots of fond memories.
 
Golf got tougher when they moved furniture and furnishings around.

Gotta love a game where a 4railer is the right situational shot to go to your hole and hold your man.:eek:
 
3andstop said:
I've never played the game currently called Golf, but, 30 or so years ago I played every now and then in a ring game they called Golf. I wouldn't know if it was or wasn't, and it's been so long I don't remember the rules, but I thought it was worth mentioning, maybe others have played it.

Back those days each player got a striped ball as their object ball, and it's solid color mate as their individual cue balls. There were 5 ( I think) wooden bullets placed on the table as obstacles that if hit and knocked over, cost strokes. That's about as much as I remember. I think we got paid by the hole. Not sure on that either. Anyway ... that was a while ago. :smile:
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We currently play this style of golf weekly. Usually 7 guys with a solid (cb) and matching stripe (ob). We are all playing one hole at the same time! We add 12 reds and 3 skittles (wooden pegs) as obstacles. It gets very congested!

You must hit your ob first and a rail before or after contact. Hitting a red first, skittles, sinking a red, sinking your ball in the wrong hole are all 6 stroke fouls. If you hit your ball and no rail or miss your ball but got a rail it's a 3 stroke foul. Sinking somone else's ob in the right hole is 9 strokes and that player is in. All fouls will have the cb and ob immediately removed and re spotted on your next turn.

The first player to win the hole goes to the board and adds 3 strokes to everyone's score, until every player gets in the hole they will receive 1 stroke per shot or more if a foul is committed. We play for half's (50 cents a stroke).

We also play compound fouls for example last week a player knocked down 3 skittles and hit a red first for 24 strokes! It equaled out to $72 on that shot.

Sometimes we have more or less reds or more or less skittles depending on the amount of players.

This game currently is played in Calgary, Canada. I've watched what I would call "American or Winnipeg golf" and find it really boring. This style we play has everyone battling, and you get to see some amazing hits. 3 4 5 rails around balls/skittles that you just won't ever see in another game. It's by far the best billiard game I've ever played.

One of the guys started streaming the last couple weeks and is putting together a highlight reel in the near future that I will post here.
 
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That's exactly how I used to play when I lived in Vancouver. The whole place would be dead except for a bunch of degenerates crowded around the snooker table way in the back, spending hours shooting crazy bankshots and trying to screw each other over by knocking balls away and jamming pockets, etc.
Just plain fun!
 
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