Have the LD technology improve the pro players level?

Simple answere is yes. better equipment has helped. however, probably not that much.

I would say today's pro's, would crush the older ones, for the same reason as every other sport. Technology gives us all access to info that you just simply couldn't go out and get in a matter of minutes. think about what you can come on here and ask AZ, and how fast that info comes back. plus people don't keep as many "trade" secrets of there game. you can go on youtube and watch SVB break 10 ball for hours and then try to duplicate. couldn't do that 10 years ago.


just my $.02

justin
 
Low squirt has real advantages, but more spin with less effort isn't one of them. It's easy to test - I've tested many cues and found no difference.

pj
chgo
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TheThaiger:
Really?
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Yes, really, actually and factually, based on testing, not opinion (so it probably doesn't count on AzB).

pj
chgo
 
Txstang1 said:
Sorry dude, you last sentence in all caps is laughable, IMO
there seems to be a fairly even split on the opinions.

exactly
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Sorry for the caps I was a little under the influence last night.
Other then that what you say is really laughable..;)
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Yes, really, actually and factually, based on testing, not opinion (so it probably doesn't count on AzB).
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Dude, reality is boring. Get with the innarwebz.

On Patrick's vein of science, I can't see snooker balls causing anywhere near as much deflection as a pool or billiards ball simply due to the weight difference. Also, the shafts have a completely different taper from one style to another. The games are no where close to the same other than having holes in the slate.

Do the shafts make a difference in your play is an easier question to answer. If a pro gets paid to play with an LD shaft, they'll say it's better if they like getting money. Whether they play with one by choice or not is very different than an LD shaft maker paying them to play with their equipment.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Which shots? Why can't they be duplicated by simply aiming differently?
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The only shot I can think of reasonably is a shot where a straight on stroke with a LD shot couldn't avoid a double-kiss, where as aiming away allowing for squirt could.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Low squirt has real advantages, but more spin with less effort isn't one of them. It's easy to test - I've tested many cues and found no difference.
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Agreed. There might be a slight difference, but probably not noticeable. Although, there are reasonable explanations why some people think low-squirt shafts create more spin. For more info, see:

Regards,
Dave
 
Cornerman said:
The only shot I can think of reasonably is a shot where a straight on stroke with a LD shot couldn't avoid a double-kiss, where as aiming away allowing for squirt could.
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On the other hand, an LD shaft will "whip" away more, potentially allowing for more clearance (e.g., with a fouette shot).

Regards,
Dave
 
TheThaiger said:
I don't think LD shafts produce more spin, I think Predator shafts create more spin.
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I think my statement and resource page applies to Predator shafts as much as any other LD shaft, but you certainly have a right to your own opinion.

Regards,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
I think my statement and resource page applies to Predator shafts as much as any other LD shaft, but you certainly have a right to your own opinion.

Regards,
Dave
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I just assumed it was a double entendre.

Freddie
 
There's more effort in some shots with a custom cue and with a tech fancy shaft, you are amazed how effortless you can control the cue ball.

It's a better for novice and intermediates to learn the game but at the pro level, I don't think it makes a difference.

Like I said and many people that agreed with me, commenting how intelligent my comment was but it was just common sense, "Pros can use a pencil and still beat us."
 
dom_poppa said:
There's more effort in some shots with a custom cue and with a tech fancy shaft, you are amazed how effortless you can control the cue ball.

It's a better for novice and intermediates to learn the game but at the pro level, I don't think it makes a difference.

Like I said and many people that agreed with me, commenting how intelligent my comment was but it was just common sense, "Pros can use a pencil and still beat us."
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That statement only applies to weaker players and players who suffer from "oh shit, I'm playing Johnny Archer!" syndrome. When two players of similar skill play each other, the slight advantage of a LD shaft is likely to come into play.
 
Dave:
an LD shaft will "whip" away more
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I don't think this is true of my low-squirt shaft, even though it's only 9-10mm wide at the tip, because it has a "conical" taper which makes it stiffer than many non-LD shafts.

pj
chgo
 
I have a question, What tip works best with LD shafts, pool and billiards?
I would think a certain tichkness, hardness would make a difference.
Any thoughts?
I tried a Tiger LD X shaft for billiards, didn't like it, no feeling.

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
http://mr3cushion.com
 
mr3cushion said:
I have a question, What tip works best with LD shafts, pool and billiards?
I would think a certain tichkness, hardness would make a difference.
Any thoughts?
I tried a Tiger LD X shaft for billiards, didn't like it, no feeling.

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
http://mr3cushion.com
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I've played with the ob-1 and the tiger x and I wouldn't give twenty bucks for either one unless I was reselling it.
I use Kamui ,everest,sniper and talisman.
The 2 best ld shafts by far to me are the predator and mezz .
The mezz has a hit that is very close to standard shafts.
 
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