Hearing Aid vs Mp3 Player

Hits 'em Hard said:
And you still missed the point. A deaf person can turn their hearing aide down to a level in which small sounds, the ones that distract you, will not be heard. But a normal hearing person has no option to do so, so we need something extra to do so. Why you want to overlook that fact, and still talk about their disability, which isn't the topic at all, it's just a support for the argument that people should be able to listen to their music while they're shooting.

If I can't wear headphones/earbuds during a tournament, then people with hearing aides shouldn't be able to turn the volume down. We all want a playing field in which everyone is equally matched, but preventing a non-hearing impaired person from doing the same thing a hearing impaired person can do is breaking the rules.

We just want to silence the background noise, but it seems we need a medical excuse in order to do so.
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So what do you do with the person that can concentrate so much when shooting, they can block out all the background noise? I have seen a few APA players (not even professionals) that can do that. How do you change that, tap them on the shoulder when they are concentrating too much? :confused:
 
Hearing Aid vs MP3 player

If you turn your hearing aids down I would assume your listing to little or no sound maybe total silence.
If your wearing mp3 head phones I would assume your listing to your favorite tunes and only blocking out certain sounds including the sound of silence.
At the practice table or competing I find reasonable noise anything but distracting.

Dale
 
Ok guys after reading alot of these maybe i didnt explain myself correctly.

Im not wanting deaf players to have to REMOVE their Hearing Aids.

I personally think they should have to keep them turned ON the whole time of a match . Not turn them off when its their turn to shoot so the crowd doesnt get to them.

We have a player here in out town with bad hearing who uses them and he does jsut this. i tried to use my Ipod Shuffle during a match so i can tune out the junk i have to hear and jsut play my best game and was tortured for using it.


And making sure somehting is a Mp3 Player is in person isnt that hard of a thing to do.

Now im not the most politically correct person out there so it is what it is to me.

not allowing me to use something in my ears and allowing ANYONE else to have something in theirs is wrong to me.

again jmho
 
Tobby said:
Ok guys after reading alot of these maybe i didnt explain myself correctly.

Im not wanting deaf players to have to REMOVE their Hearing Aids.

I personally think they should have to keep them turned ON the whole time of a match . Not turn them off when its their turn to shoot so the crowd doesnt get to them.

We have a player here in out town with bad hearing who uses them and he does jsut this. i tried to use my Ipod Shuffle during a match so i can tune out the junk i have to hear and jsut play my best game and was tortured for using it.


And making sure somehting is a Mp3 Player is in person isnt that hard of a thing to do.

Now im not the most politically correct person out there so it is what it is to me.

not allowing me to use something in my ears and allowing ANYONE else to have something in theirs is wrong to me.

again jmho
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If you want to have the same "advantage" of a hearing impaired person at the table with their hearing aid turned down, just get some hearing protection. You can get some basic ear plugs or go with the big old ear muffs like Earl has used.
 
It's amusing that some people actually believe that having one of your senses impaired would be an unfair advantage in anything.
 
Tobby said:
And making sure somehting is a Mp3 Player is in person isnt that hard of a thing to do.
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I could do it. It sounds like you could do it. Do you think everyone that runs a tournament could? Do you think they could even operate one?

Assuming that point, let's then add that little item to the check in process. Meaning you would have to have someone capable of determining whether or not its an ipod or an iPhone, and everyone would have to have their device approved. Wanna add that item to everything else you need to do to run a tournament?

If you think this is a trivial point, I'm sorry. But if you don't think people would try to use such a device to cheat, you're being naive. Technology has come so far.....it would be easy to do.
 
To the OP, would you be satisfied if the tournament officials let you wear earplugs?
 
easy-e said:
To the OP, would you be satisfied if the tournament officials let you wear earplugs?
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Or better yet, stick ice picks in your ears in an attempt to impair your hearing so that you'd have that unfair advantage too! I can see that trend sweeping the pool scene soon! :D
 
the following might be mentioned as to why mp3 players are not allowed and a hearing aid device is.

We all know that shooting pool can be about rhythm, we all have had nights where we didn't miss and shape came like you were placing the cue ball with your hand, they call this "The Zone". For some people one way to help them find "the Zone" is by listening to their favorite music, or their favorite noise (who knows what people are listening to nowadays). Maybe you find that when you practice at home and you listen to the golf channel you find yourself in the zone more often than when your at the pool hall or listening to something else. Basically bottom line is, if you have been able to identify a noise, music, sound or something that can be recorded and played back that helps you find that zone, then this would be a great benefit to you while playing tournaments. So before you start your match you plug in and start listening and maybe sometime during the match you start playing on auto pilot because whatever your listening to has calmed you down, put you at ease, gave you confidence or whatever and your able to block everything out and play in the zone.

I do not believe that they are making hearing aids with mp3 devices built into them. (Might be good idea though) lol.

Anyway, I personally have days when I want it dead quiet and some other days i am like turn the damn music up please.

later.
 
Why does anyone care what is in someone's ears? If a person wants to tune out the world using earplugs or music or whatever then that shouldn't be an issue. This isn't that big a deal.

The day will come however when we redefine what handicapped means. Because as technology advances then it will get to the point that people are enhanced by the technology well beyond whatever they got from nature.

Already this is becoming an issue with runners who have special legs, swimmers who have special suits and so on.

I can envision a day when someone wears special glasses that project a line virtual pool style that only the person wearing the glasses can see. Bam, the dead perfect aiming line is laid down for you inlcuding tangent line......

But earbuds? Seriously who cares. I think I'd be in a fight with the tournament director if they tried to restrict me from wearing ear buds to play.
 
justadub said:
I could do it. It sounds like you could do it. Do you think everyone that runs a tournament could? Do you think they could even operate one?

Assuming that point, let's then add that little item to the check in process. Meaning you would have to have someone capable of determining whether or not its an ipod or an iPhone, and everyone would have to have their device approved. Wanna add that item to everything else you need to do to run a tournament?

If you think this is a trivial point, I'm sorry. But if you don't think people would try to use such a device to cheat, you're being naive. Technology has come so far.....it would be easy to do.
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Even after its approved what would stop someone from going to the bathroom and switching devices? Or what about the smartphones that can play music, and all the people that would complain why can people listen to music on their iPod, but I can't on my smartphone? I am sure they would all leave it on airplane mode. Its just too big of a hassle for tournament directors to determine who has what plugged in their ears.
 
Bank2Win said:
I do not believe that they are making hearing aids with mp3 devices built into them. (Might be good idea though) lol.
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Actually, your post made me remember something... the day is already upon us.

They have hearing aids with Bluetooth in them now, so folks could already be channeling conversations at the table... sigh. Forgot about that, and I have a former employee who has them. Doh! (He loves them, tho. They are a great convenience, and an amazing use of technology.)
 
Well, I don't think that the "ability" to tune out spectators (not that they're EVER a roaring crowd at a pool tourney - ha ha!!!) is worth the price of being FREAKING DEAF!!!!

Look, the guy plays great, he deserves his propers any way you slice it!
 
What about wearing ear plugs to lessen the distractions? I wear blinders when I play the human windmills. You know, the guys that make crazy movements with their cigs and wipe down their shafts while you're running out. ;)

Drowning out distractions is fine. It's a personal preference.

Best,
Mike
 
JB Cases said:
I can envision a day when someone wears special glasses that project a line virtual pool style that only the person wearing the glasses can see. Bam, the dead perfect aiming line is laid down for you inlcuding tangent line......
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They will never be necessary, John. Lest we forget we have CTE!!!

Maniac (just playin' with you buddy! Please don't go off on me :D)
 
FTR, anyone wanting to cut down background noise without being noticed can simply buy some of the tan-colored, soft, roll-up type of foam earplugs and after putting them in, you can use your little finger and push them in so deep that they cannot be seen and you have to use a pair of tweezers to get them out. This was my standard operating procedure when I worked the assembly line at General Motors. Cuts noise down wa-a-ay better than the recommended way to use them.

Maniac
 
There is no normal hearing with hearing aids!

Tobby said:
Ok im curious on how some of you see this .

Not jsut attacking SVB so please all the svb fanboys dont attack me lol.

Why is it that someone is allowed to wear hearing aids which can be turned down to tune out the crowd the BS and whatever else when playing on internet ( TV ) tables during matchs , but you cant wear a Mp3 Player so you dont have to hear the crowd or BS.

Now to me this isnt fair the hearing aid should have to be left on at a normal level thru the entire match if the other player is not allowed to use his or her hearing choice.

Like i said i have been thinking about this for about a month now .
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Why do you think CocoboloCowboy has hearing aids? My guess is he lost his hearing serving his country like me. Ask me how I lost mine. "Unless you have worn hearing aids for more then 4 weeks, IMHO you are only guessing how they work. BTW they do not make hearing NORMAL AGAIN."

When you're hearing impaired it's certain tones you lose. For me it the sound of small children, teenagers who mumble, women with high pitched voices to name a few. BTW I can't tell what direction a sound is coming from; big advantage hey. So if someone calls for a T.D. to watch a shot I don't hear them. Suddenly someone is beside me while I'm about to shoot and I balk.

So when they blast the music it hurts and distracts. The crack of the ball on the break. The sound of paper being crinkled can drive you nuts at first. The talking and the noise in a restaurant; I don't go anymore. Then the fact I can't go to the movies because there's no closed captioning.

I could go on but lets just say you're clueless. You couldn't handle wearing my hearing aid at it's lowest setting for 1/2 hour at the pool hall.
Frankly your post lit a fire this high and burnt my ass. You sir are a nit for a posting about a subject you know nothing about!
 
justadub said:
To take it a step further, I'm quite sure that people running events don't want to have to determine whether each individual device is truly "only" an MP3 player, and not a device capable of receiving information from someone (i.e. a phone or two-way radio).

I bought some ear plugs to try, but I've been too self conscious to put them in and try, just yet. They are in my case, in the event that I'm too distracted by noise, enough so that I'm willing to have them sticking out of my ears. :p
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i tried earplugs once, they seal too well and screw with my equilibrium
 
JB Cases said:
Why does anyone care what is in someone's ears? If a person wants to tune out the world using earplugs or music or whatever then that shouldn't be an issue. This isn't that big a deal.

The day will come however when we redefine what handicapped means. Because as technology advances then it will get to the point that people are enhanced by the technology well beyond whatever they got from nature.
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well said,

i think i should be exempt from the "one foot on the floor" rule because i'm shorter than the average height.:D
 
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