Heart...

JoeyA said:
Fatboy, I think what Teddy Roosevelt said about courage, best describes "heart".

Theodore Roosevelt on Courage:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again because there is not effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

JoeyA

Great stuff Joey!
 
Heart

Heart is the ability to never give up even under the most extreme circumstances. Very easy to say, very difficult to do.
 
derekdisco said:
I noticed youre in southwest indiana? You anywhere near evansville?

my garage/apartment is 64.1 miles N.N.E. of the junction of Green River Road and Morgan Avenue. 1 hour 15 minute drive to Loogootee, Ind.

DCP
 
Boston Shorty's heart

He told me one day that having heart and being a player is :
when you are in a race to 10 / your opponent has 9 and you have 6 / you have a very tough shot to get out of the current rack / AND "YOU KNOW" YOU HAVE THE BEST OF IT.
 
ajrack said:
He told me one day that having heart and being a player is :
when you are in a race to 10 / your opponent has 9 and you have 6 / you have a very tough shot to get out of the current rack / AND "YOU KNOW" YOU HAVE THE BEST OF IT.


if heart means being at the table down 4 games and having the best of it then I have no heart because I dont come with 4 packs often, can I put up 4 in a row? sure but I dont play strong enough to call that situation "the best of it", I know guys who do. with that logic the better the player the more heart they have....I dont buy it, I have seen weak players with alot of heart.
 
I think boxers best illustrate what heart is. We've all seen a fight where one fighter is getting beat badly but doesn't give up and becomes triumphant. That is what "Rocky" was about some average guy beating the odds. Philw
 
a boxer with heart

philw said:
I think boxers best illustrate what heart is. We've all seen a fight where one fighter is getting beat badly but doesn't give up and becomes triumphant. That is what "Rocky" was about some average guy beating the odds. Philw

Actually I think the pug's best illustrate heart in boxing. They know their day is past, or never was, yet they contract fight after fight to feed their families. Taped hands inside a glove feel a lot like getting hit by a brick wrapped in a towel, the tape is to protect hands, not jaws.

You see these pug's without one chance in a hundred get off the floor again and again and battle through ten or twelve rounds knowing before they step into the ring that this is all they have to expect. That is perhaps the very greatest display of raw courage in the sports world. It doesn't match people who give up their lives for their family or what they believe in but I doubt that one in a hundred of the pug fighters with heart wouldn't have the courage to do so if needed. Some of the greatest fights I have ever seen is when they pair two pug's with heart and determination and roughly equal skills. It isn't the prettiest fight in the world but it is one of the most impressive.

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Blackjack said:
Click the link below... it is the best definition I have ever heard as it relates to pool...

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Nuff said!

That has to be the worst definition of "Heart" that I ever heard anyone define. Being in the "zone" is not a definition of Heart, it is a result of having Heart. JMO

I believe it is as stated by Catahula, quote: Heart exists when a person works hard at achieving a goal and pushes himself out past that comfortable point that his natural talents would have taken him.

Merry Christmas
 
klockdoc said:
That has to be the worst definition of "Heart" that I ever heard anyone define.

wow, you mean there's someone else besides me that feels this same way? be careful there, doc, you dont want to make people mad or they will start to pout and ignore you.

anyway, skill is absolutely no question about it the #1 most important thing to being a good pool player.

DCP
 
I don't know fatboy, but I'm sick of his posting--"I'm not bragging about how rich I am" followed by my 15k cues or my trillion dollar mansion. He comes across as the poor me Im just a rich beyond belief guy buy I'm sad cause I have no family :( I know Fatboy has his following of ass kissers cause they've never met a millionaire on their forums before. Just my obsevation
 
Tszyu said:
I don't know fatboy, but I'm sick of his posting--"I'm not bragging about how rich I am" followed by my 15k cues or my trillion dollar mansion. He comes across as the poor me Im just a rich beyond belief guy buy I'm sad cause I have no family :( I know Fatboy has his following of ass kissers cause they've never met a millionaire on their forums before. Just my obsevation

Do I detect a hint of jealousy in this post?

In any event, Merry Christmas everyone!! Don't eat too much!!
 
To me

Heart is taking the shot that you know will get you out ! Versus taking the safe and hoping to get back to the table!
 
iba7467 said:
Heart is someone's tenacity and risk relative to their monetary situation.

Heart has absolutely nothing to do with money. IMO, they are mutually exclusive. They can co-exist, but one does not depend on the other.

It does not always take heart to "risk" your own money (regardless of how much or little you may have). Risking one's money can have many motivations, with only one of the many options being heart (others may include overestimation, underestimation, ignorance, desire, perserverance, or just plain stupidity).

Heart is an intangible quality of one's personality that cannot be measured by dollars. IMO, heart is unmearsurable, and can best be seen when all the odds are stacked against you.... and someway, somehow, you find a way to overcome everything around you that says you can't win and still beat those odds.
 
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DrCue'sProtege said:
wow, you mean there's someone else besides me that feels this same way? be careful there, doc, you dont want to make people mad or they will start to pout and ignore you.

anyway, skill is absolutely no question about it the #1 most important thing to being a good pool player.

DCP

Ding dong, knock knock knock is anybody there?????? Must not be, there are no lights on!!
 
There have been many explanations of Heart here and I've seen many examples of it over my life and around this game. I'm not sure it can be explained perfectly.
IMO, I've seen many exhibit a lot of heart in defeat as well as winning. To me, when you left it all out there with nothing else to give. When nobody else knows howimportant the win could have been at the time and you gave it all you had.
I watched a pretty good player who needed the win very badly for several personal reasons and not all of them had to do with money, but it was important.
He lead in a race to 11 for all his dough and was leading 10-8. I mean he was playing brilliantly, but so was the other guy. At 10-8 he broke and hit em near perfectly only to have a ball come around and kick the cue ball in the corner. The other guy got out making it 10-9 and then made it twice in a row on the break. It was the most heartbreaking match I ever saw.
Heart in a player is priceless.
 
Tszyu said:
I don't know fatboy, but I'm sick of his posting--"I'm not bragging about how rich I am" followed by my 15k cues or my trillion dollar mansion. He comes across as the poor me Im just a rich beyond belief guy buy I'm sad cause I have no family :( I know Fatboy has his following of ass kissers cause they've never met a millionaire on their forums before. Just my obsevation

your right, except there are alot of millionairs on this board and they are good friends, i dont count other peoples $$$, I look at the content of their charcter, I have nothing to sell them so it dosent matter what they have. I dont want or need any ass kissers in my life, infact when people do that, and your right again, and they do I shy away from them as I know they have an angle and I dont like that. See I like you because you call it how you feel and for that I respect you. And your right again I have no family and that hurts, I dont want any phony friends to fill the void in my life of not having any family, instead I have good friends who dont kiss my ass, count my $$$ etc. You have a good handle on figuring me out and again I respect that. can we be friends? i'm not joking. i make an effort to get along with everyone. To give you a little more insight into me, my favorite house I own is 2000 sqft. I also live in a guest house behind my main house, it suits me better. It aint all flash, were all the same at the end of the day, it what we do during the day that counts, I wish I played pool better. I dont run around with a bunch of phony frinds an entrough(cant spell that word) i go alone, i fly under the radar most of the time.

merry christmas
 
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heart is:
Running until you pass out because your body says no and your mind says yes.
Being a girl goalie on a mens soccer team, getting slamed, kicked and cleated and looking forward to the next game. because you are a goalie.
Having a baby on a saturday and going into your navy nuclear class on monday for finals because thats what you worked for.
Going to Iraq because thats what your trained for and leaving your daughter with your parents for eight months.
I feel my daughter has heart.
Happy New Years to all, and Best Wishes.
 
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