Help in Dating a 5x10 Anniversary Snooker Table

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ChrisSjoblom

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I'm a newbie on the forums and I hope this is the proper forum to post my request. If not, please let me know the right place, or moderator, please move it.

This weekend I picked up a more or less complete but disassembled Anniversary model snooker table at a garage sale near Wichita, KS. As my house has no room for this, I may have the table restored and then sell it, or I may sell it as it is now to someone who wants to restore it themselves. Either way, I am hoping to get some help as to finding out just when this was built.

I contacted Brunswick through their website, and got a response back right away (on a Sunday!) with several references from old brochures, sell sheets, service bulletins, etc... that helped to some degree, but did not give me enough to narrow it down to a specific year. I'm thinking that some of you Brunswick aficionados may have some additional information.

The only identifying numbers/letters I could find on it are the word ANNIVERSARY stamped in ink at the top of one of the legs, and " C 2 52 3" (without the quotes) stamped into each side and end piece of the bed frame. The corner and rail castings have the off white baked enamel finish. The lower leg bands are missing so I can't say as to whether they were aluminum or off white plastic. The rails are wood, not Formica.

If anyone can give me some idea as to the year this was made, or any other pertinent information, I would appreciate it. If you need more information from me in order to make a determination please ask. I have some parts of the table with me, and the rest I will be picking up within the next few weeks. (I ran into this as I was traveling through Kansas on my way back home to Wisconsin, and the owner said he was planning to junk it out if it didn't sell at the garage sale. I wasn't willing to see that happen, so I bought it.)

I have one photo of the table, as it sat partially disassembled in the guy's yard, but I don't see a way for me to post it without first getting it hosted on a picture site. If someone can talk me through the process for posting it directly from my computer I will post the photo asap.
 
Dinner and a movie is always a good start!

Sorry...I have nothing to offer on your request. I just couldn't resist responding to the message header!

Best of luck on your new table!

Ken
 
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Grab the titties and make sure the points are firm and pointy, not sagging.
 
ChrisSjoblom said:
I'm a newbie on the forums and I hope this is the proper forum to post my request. If not, please let me know the right place, or moderator, please move it.

This weekend I picked up a more or less complete but disassembled Anniversary model snooker table at a garage sale near Wichita, KS. As my house has no room for this, I may have the table restored and then sell it, or I may sell it as it is now to someone who wants to restore it themselves. Either way, I am hoping to get some help as to finding out just when this was built.

I contacted Brunswick through their website, and got a response back right away (on a Sunday!) with several references from old brochures, sell sheets, service bulletins, etc... that helped to some degree, but did not give me enough to narrow it down to a specific year. I'm thinking that some of you Brunswick aficionados may have some additional information.

The only identifying numbers/letters I could find on it are the word ANNIVERSARY stamped in ink at the top of one of the legs, and " C 2 52 3" (without the quotes) stamped into each side and end piece of the bed frame. The corner and rail castings have the off white baked enamel finish. The lower leg bands are missing so I can't say as to whether they were aluminum or off white plastic. The rails are wood, not Formica.

If anyone can give me some idea as to the year this was made, or any other pertinent information, I would appreciate it. If you need more information from me in order to make a determination please ask. I have some parts of the table with me, and the rest I will be picking up within the next few weeks. (I ran into this as I was traveling through Kansas on my way back home to Wisconsin, and the owner said he was planning to junk it out if it didn't sell at the garage sale. I wasn't willing to see that happen, so I bought it.)

I have one photo of the table, as it sat partially disassembled in the guy's yard, but I don't see a way for me to post it without first getting it hosted on a picture site. If someone can talk me through the process for posting it directly from my computer I will post the photo asap.
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Establishing the date of manufacture can be a challenge under the best
of circumstances. You might get more info in the Table Mechanics section.

Glen(realkingcorbra) knows quite a bit about vintage tables.

Good luck with your search.
Dale
 
ChrisSjoblom said:
I'm a newbie on the forums and I hope this is the proper forum to post my request. If not, please let me know the right place, or moderator, please move it.

This weekend I picked up a more or less complete but disassembled Anniversary model snooker table at a garage sale near Wichita, KS. As my house has no room for this, I may have the table restored and then sell it, or I may sell it as it is now to someone who wants to restore it themselves. Either way, I am hoping to get some help as to finding out just when this was built.

I contacted Brunswick through their website, and got a response back right away (on a Sunday!) with several references from old brochures, sell sheets, service bulletins, etc... that helped to some degree, but did not give me enough to narrow it down to a specific year. I'm thinking that some of you Brunswick aficionados may have some additional information.

The only identifying numbers/letters I could find on it are the word ANNIVERSARY stamped in ink at the top of one of the legs, and " C 2 52 3" (without the quotes) stamped into each side and end piece of the bed frame. The corner and rail castings have the off white baked enamel finish. The lower leg bands are missing so I can't say as to whether they were aluminum or off white plastic. The rails are wood, not Formica.

If anyone can give me some idea as to the year this was made, or any other pertinent information, I would appreciate it. If you need more information from me in order to make a determination please ask. I have some parts of the table with me, and the rest I will be picking up within the next few weeks. (I ran into this as I was traveling through Kansas on my way back home to Wisconsin, and the owner said he was planning to junk it out if it didn't sell at the garage sale. I wasn't willing to see that happen, so I bought it.)

I have one photo of the table, as it sat partially disassembled in the guy's yard, but I don't see a way for me to post it without first getting it hosted on a picture site. If someone can talk me through the process for posting it directly from my computer I will post the photo asap.
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Without some pictures, your guess is as good as mine:confused:
 
Thanks guys. I'll repost in the mechanic forum.

RKC, what photos would be helpful? I can take photos of some of the parts within a couple days, but photos of the larger pieces such as the frame members and legs will have to wait until I get back to Wichita to pick them up. Also, how important is it to know the exact year of manufacture, other than just having the satisfaction of figuring it out?

It seems like my title may have given some of the members the wrong impression. For the record, I don't actually date snooker tables. (But every now and then when I am wrestling a refrigerator or washing machine into place I am reminded of dancing with my first wife....)
 
ChrisSjoblom said:
Also, how important is it to know the exact year of manufacture, other than just having the satisfaction of figuring it out?
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Unfortunately even with photos, in most cases it's impossible to know an exact year of production. But we can get you in the ball park .

However, as you have noted, knowing the exact year really won't make much difference either. It is what it is.
 
ChrisSjoblom said:
Thanks guys. I'll repost in the mechanic forum.

RKC, what photos would be helpful? I can take photos of some of the parts within a couple days, but photos of the larger pieces such as the frame members and legs will have to wait until I get back to Wichita to pick them up. Also, how important is it to know the exact year of manufacture, other than just having the satisfaction of figuring it out?

It seems like my title may have given some of the members the wrong impression. For the record, I don't actually date snooker tables. (But every now and then when I am wrestling a refrigerator or washing machine into place I am reminded of dancing with my first wife....)
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The more important question begging to be asked, is what are you thinking of doing with the table?
 
I'm not too sure what to do with it yet. I guess my preference would be to sell it as it is to someone who either will restore it or at least put it back into decent playing shape. I initially thought of doing it myself, but that just isn't realistic. I figure I have the skills to do a decent job of most of it, but lately my track record of completing projects like this stinks. I usually get about 60%-70% complete then just peter out on them. (Too many things I want to do and not enough time to do them.)

Alternatively, I might be interested in hiring someone to restore it for me with an eye toward selling it once it's done. My house doesn't have room for a table like this, and I don't have any plans to upgrade my living space. If I went that route I would hope to be able to make a profit on my investment, but I have no idea if that is feasible. I've done some car restorations in the past, and with them I've found that if you want to do a full detailed restoration you very rarely make your money back, but if you build them as a nice driver rather than a show car you can usually make a decent profit.

If you know of anyone that may be interested in it as it is now, I'm not looking to get a lot of money for it. The main thing is I'd really like to see it become a useful table again rather than being lost.
 
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