Help With Foot Positioning During Stance

I have no dog in this fight but will say that written word is often misinterpreted.

The way I read Neil's post was in no way a swipe at either Scott, nor Fran. Of course only Neil knows what his intentions were but it certainly did not come across the same to me? YMMV

That's how I read it also.
 
I think, if your stance offers good balance and stability and enough clearance to allow for your stroke than you are good to go. If not, make the necessary changes.

My priorities concerning stance,
1. Clearance
2. Stability
3. Comfort
 
If I were the OP after reading your back-handed compliment, I'd never contact me for a lesson ---- And that would be too bad because I could really help them.

But that's you, Neil ---- never bothering to think before you write. So, if you want to talk about knowledge, let's talk about your lack of it which easily shown by your own poor playing skills, which you have demonstrated so well by posting a video of yourself shooting the same shot over and over and over......

So you don't agree with me much? I'd say that's to my credit.

Now if you want to keep throwing back-handed compliments at me, go for it, but you will not like the result.

Stop being so full f yourself Fran. It wasn't a compliment or a dis. It was just an observation, that is all. I seriously doubt anyone would not go to you for lessons on just whatever I have to say. Don't know why you would think I have that kind of power over anyone.>>

As to my poor playing skills, I will match them up with yours any day of the week. But, we all know you won't post any videos of you playing. However, if you care to take Dr. Daves Billiard University test, that would be interesting.

If you think shooting the same shot over and over is a bad thing to do, which you surely implied, then maybe you could learn a thing or two about proper instruction and improvement.

For some reason you want to take every word I say and take it as a dis to you. Believe me, you aren't that important to me to even bother doing that. But, yes, more often than not I tend to disagree with what you post. It is what it is. Just like most of the time you disagree with what I post. But, I don't go around thinking that everything you post is a dis to me just because we don't agree. So how about you stop doing it to me?

Back to your very clear insult to me- I and many others are waiting to see your scores on the B.U. test and your playing abilities. And, I will repeat, anytime you are around Mi., I will be more than happy to prove to you that my playing skills are superior to yours, and superior now at 60 years old than yours ever were. Back when you were playing as a pro, I would have gladly given you the 7 ball and drilled you.

Now, you want to take it personal, there you go. You want to continue it, go for it.
 
When it comes to the stance I think the best one is clearly the snooker stance. I think everybody should start with that and then adjust from there if absolutely necessary. When talking about stance on this forum, you will hear a lot of people say that each person is unique; therefore each stance will be unique. Serious snooker players don't really take this approach - although you will find some variance among them, but for the most part they are all very similar....AND they all cue very straight. So if straight cueing is your goal I would look to those that cue the straightest (I'm a simple guy after all).

Another often mentioned tip is that if the stance is uncomfortable - then you are doing something wrong (or some such piece of advice). I don't agree with this either. The human body was not designed to shoot pool so making some necessary adjustments to your stance may initially be uncomfortable but after a while your body will likely adjust.

There's really only one legitimate reason to not use a snooker stance and that's because you just aren't limber enough to pull it off. For me, I know I can't take full advantage of a snooker stance. I just can't seem to get my chest down low enough to have the clue glide on it. I know I've tried. That's such a huge advantage those snooker players have when it comes to getting that cue to stay on a straight line.

Anyway, I would study up on the snooker stance and go from there.
 
If I were the OP after reading your back-handed compliment, I'd never contact me for a lesson ---- And that would be too bad because I could really help them.

But that's you, Neil ---- never bothering to think before you write. So, if you want to talk about knowledge, let's talk about your lack of it which easily shown by your own poor playing skills, which you have demonstrated so well by posting a video of yourself shooting the same shot over and over and over......

So you don't agree with me much? I'd say that's to my credit.

Now if you want to keep throwing back-handed compliments at me, go for it, but you will not like the result.

So Neil gave you a "back handed" compliment and you proceed to blatantly and explicitly insult him? Classy. I think you did a lot more to dissuade the OP from taking a lesson from you, with your petty post, than Neil did with his. Brilliant!
 
I took a lesson from Ray Martin years ago. One of my questions was whether he would now (as of the time of the lesson) want to change anything in the book. His answer was that he would no longer present what is a "proper" stance in the same way. He had come to the belief that it should be more open to personal variation.
 
So Neil gave you a "back handed" compliment and you proceed to blatantly and explicitly insult him? Classy. I think you did a lot more to dissuade the OP from taking a lesson from you, with your petty post, than Neil did with his. Brilliant!

Agreed, Fran's post was extremely touchy and completely overreacting. All Neil said is "We rarely agree".

Seeing someone act irrational and bite someone's head off over a harmless
comment would COMPLETELY turn me off as a potential student.

On the subject of the stance thing... I think CJ may chime in here.
He's a big proponent of how important the feet are.
He said something interesting, "it's not always about comfort"...
and conventional wisdom seems to be that it's (mostly) about comfort.

I've tried putting my feet somewhere other than where they happen to naturally want to go,
and it feels very weird. Neither of my feet points along the shot line really.
I could turn one foot about 30 degrees and force it there.

The question I have is... should I? Should I invest a few weeks feeling awkward?
I'm not sold on the idea yet but I'm open to it, if it will help my game.
I know my stroke isn't straight, but I'm not sure what I should be changing.
Feet, hand position, head position, something else entirely?
 
Agreed, Fran's post was extremely touchy and completely overreacting. All Neil said is "We rarely agree".

Seeing someone act irrational and bite someone's head off over a harmless
comment would COMPLETELY turn me off as a potential student.

On the subject of the stance thing... I think CJ may chime in here.
He's a big proponent of how important the feet are.
He said something interesting, "it's not always about comfort"...
and conventional wisdom seems to be that it's (mostly) about comfort.

I've tried putting my feet somewhere other than where they happen to naturally want to go,
and it feels very weird. Neither of my feet points along the shot line really.
I could turn one foot about 30 degrees and force it there.

The question I have is... should I? Should I invest a few weeks feeling awkward?
I'm not sold on the idea yet but I'm open to it, if it will help my game.
I know my stroke isn't straight, but I'm not sure what I should be changing.
Feet, hand position, head position, something else entirely?

What YOU need to do is very difficult to say on here. It could be one thing, or a combination of little tweaks over several areas. If you don't go to someone to help you, plan on spending quite a bit of time trying to figure it out for yourself. I say that, because when you change one thing, it can have a cascading effect, or it may just fix the problem for you. If you have access to filming or a mirror, utilize it. They can save you a lot of time.
 
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