High Deflection Shafts

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whammo57

Kim Walker
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I make a high deflection, solid maple shaft that can be as big as 13.65mm and everyone loves them................ They are big, hard, and stiff and some excellent shooters use them.

Kim
 
Everyone loves 13.65MM shaft?
I might as well ask a question b/c you didn't ask one.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Everyone loves 13.65MM shaft?
I might as well ask a question b/c you didn't ask one.
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Everyone that has one ...... loves it.......... but you must have a stroke to use them...

A small dia tip for english or draw is a fallacy...........

Kim
 
Wendell Weir had a straight pool shaft that was 15mm with triangle tip.

He was a center ball player who ran back to back 150 runs in the US Open. Twice!
 
Why would you want such a gigantic tip diameter?
A regular 13mm is more than stiff enough for me.
 
Kim Bye said:
Why would you want such a gigantic tip diameter?
A regular 13mm is more than stiff enough for me.
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IMHO - It is all about what feels comfortable in your bridge hand. For years I played
with a 14 mm and was convinced I needed a shaft that big. Much later, as a much better player,
I played with shafts ranging from 12 mm and up. Today it is just a matter of a few warm up shots
to adjust to the size.

Also, IMHO - all this "noise" about smaller tips impart more spin or enable more accurate
cueing is just marketing malarkey.

Dale
 
pdcue said:
IMHO - It is all about what feels comfortable in your bridge hand. For years I played
with a 14 mm and was convinced I needed a shaft that big. Much later, as a much better player,
I played with shafts ranging from 12 mm and up. Today it is just a matter of a few warm up shots
to adjust to the size.

Also, IMHO - all this "noise" about smaller tips impart more spin or enable more accurate
cueing is just marketing malarkey.

Dale
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I once played with about a 12.3mm pro taper shaft. And switched to 12.9mm and started missing less balls. Same cue, same ferrule, same tip, same taper, just larger diameter. It did reduce the amount of draw I was getting a little, but with the faster cloth who cares since I was missing less balls.

My opinion on this is they are going thinner on these new LD shafts because they are gluing shaft wood together by various methods and need it to be a little less stiff. So with LD shafts they might need the smaller diameter to decrease stiffness. With tight grain maple pro tapered I think 12.75 to 13mm is the sweet spot.

But that is just my opinion and we all have them.
 
pdcue said:
IMHO - It is all about what feels comfortable in your bridge hand. For years I played
with a 14 mm and was convinced I needed a shaft that big. Much later, as a much better player,
I played with shafts ranging from 12 mm and up. Today it is just a matter of a few warm up shots
to adjust to the size.

Also, IMHO - all this "noise" about smaller tips impart more spin or enable more accurate
cueing is just marketing malarkey.

Dale
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3 cushion players play tiny tips for a reason.
 
Snooker players often use tiny tips on European taper shafts but to the best of my knowledge most of the 3 cushion carom players use very large tips and extremely stiff shafts. Of course there are exceptions but carom shafts are usually basically conical shafts with 13.5 or 14 mm tips. also most masse' cues are very short with extremely fat shafts and again 14 mm tips.

Just sayin'
Todd
 
tsp&b said:
Snooker players often use tiny tips on European taper shafts but to the best of my knowledge most of the 3 cushion carom players use very large tips and extremely stiff shafts. Of course there are exceptions but carom shafts are usually basically conical shafts with 13.5 or 14 mm tips. also most masse' cues are very short with extremely fat shafts and again 14 mm tips.

Just sayin'
Todd
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Not really . 12MM will be the fat side of carom cues. Lots of 11MM.
 
whammo57 said:
Everyone that has one ...... loves it.......... but you must have a stroke to use them...

A small dia tip for english or draw is a fallacy...........

Kim
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And there in a nut shell is why different diameters are offered for different players. I make playing shafts from 10.00mm to over 13.00mm. Many ask for a somewhat smaller diameter because of their hand size, well over 13mm would not work for many regardless of stroke.
 
One of my players has 13.5mm shafts and it's a blast to play with. Real old school feel.. I believe Joey is right on the carom shafts quesiton 11-12mm is the norm. Snooker is generally 11mm or less.
 
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Joey, I was wrong and you are correct on the carom shafts tip size but a carom shaft is not by any means a low deflection shaft.

Thanks,
Todd
 
tsp&b said:
Joey, I was wrong and you are correct on the carom shafts tip size but a carom shaft is not by any means a low deflection shaft.

Thanks,
Todd
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I think they are low cue ball squirt shafts b/c of the short ferrule and thin first 5 inches .
That, if we compare them to 1" capped heavy old school ferrules .
 
JoeyInCali said:
I think they are low cue ball squirt shafts b/c of the short ferrule and thin first 5 inches .
That, if we compare them to 1" capped heavy old school ferrules .
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Most certainly they are LD as the larger, heavier cueball easily offsets the front end mass as 11.00mm.
 
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