Hit some balls with a REVO

[jackpot]

A friend of mine got his REVO yesterday that was on order from Cuestix
(I think that's right). It took about 6 weeks . He ordered the larger
size but the smaller one is what he got. Maybe some one didn't take it
and he did, so he got it sooner, I don't know. Anyway I played with it
for a while. It did not make a tink sound like I've heard people say. It
made a solid sound. When hit with extreme English it still hit pretty solid.
It is very low deflection, and inside is very easy. Since I hit most shots
with a little outside so it took a little while to adjust. It was smooth but
(and this could just be me ) it kind of reminded me of scratching a blackboard.
I have one ordered with a radial pin in the larger size, but no butt.
Deanoc needs to buy something that will fit, so I can borrow it, and not
waste my money on it, in case I hate it. I wish they would paint it beige.
jack

 

[MattPoland]

I just got mine last week. I set up an alert across a few websites. One popped up and I jumped on it. Three days later it arrived.

I also do not hear a tink sound or feeling at all. It is solid. I am used to soft tips (LePro) but I took the stock Victory medium tip. The hit is more firm only in the way I would expect from the tip. The only time I ever here a tink is if I play with someone else’s stick with a hard tip. I wonder if something similar is the root of the Revo tink myth. Of course it will tink when positioning balls with the side of your shaft.

The perks for me is how incredibly smooth it is. It is like you’re wearing a glove. I am curious if it ever will feel sticky in any circumstance and how easily it returns to ridiculous smoothness with basic maintenance. Of course I am looking forward to the prospect that it will never ding, dent or warp. This will probably last the rest of my life (unless they come out with a 11.8mm version).

The low deflection hasn’t affected me much. Honestly there is only one shot I consistently miss that I was consistently making. No surprise that when I try to spin off the rail for a 90 degree cut, I am hitting it fat (I tend to use 2-3 tips of English). Otherwise all my spin shots go just fine. But I usually don’t need more than a tip of English for any shot so perhaps squirt was always minimal anyway.

 

[whammo57]

I hit some balls with a friend's revo.............. just another gimmick .......... totally not worth the price........... but I commend the great marketing....................LOL

Kim

 

[JC]

I hit some balls with a friend's revo.............. just another gimmick .......... totally not worth the price........... but I commend the great marketing....................LOL

Kim

Why not just quit pretending and play video pool on X box.

Embrace technology!!

JC

 

[hang-the-9]

I hit some balls with a friend's revo.............. just another gimmick .......... totally not worth the price........... but I commend the great marketing....................LOL

Kim

I overheard this quite a few times "Predator are just marketing geniuses". They are the Apple of cuemakers. Shiny, but really no better than anything else. I've yet to see anyone I know that went to a Revo that got any better. I was still able to beat them all the same way with my $120 shaft. A change in how you play is way more effective to play better than trying new shafts/cues. If a $500 shaft will make me stop moving my wrist or turn my arm or make me learn new position patterns or keep me from shooting before I was ready to shoot, I'll be counting out my 20s the same day.

 

[MattPoland]

I overheard this quite a few times "Predator are just marketing geniuses". They are the Apple of cuemakers. Shiny, but really no better than anything else. I've yet to see anyone I know that went to a Revo that got any better. I was still able to beat them all the same way with my $120 shaft. A change in how you play is way more effective to play better than trying new shafts/cues. If a $500 shaft will make me stop moving my wrist or turn my arm or make me learn new position patterns or keep me from shooting before I was ready to shoot, I'll be counting out my 20s the same day.

To me it’s not about pretending a stick will make me play better. It’s about a couple conveniences that affect my experience as a player but not my caliber of a player:

1) Glides smoother than wood
2) Won’t warp
3) Won’t ding

In the end these are vanity things. But we all have a little vanity and aren’t all playing with $60 Sneaky Petes. Any argument against a Revo is equally an argument against custom cues, inlays, points, wraps, quick release joints, layered tips, $30 chalk, etc. I think price sensitivity is a fair concern for any of these things.

Efren can beat me with a house cue. *shrug*

 

[KenRobbins]

To me it’s not about pretending a stick will make me play better. It’s about a couple conveniences that affect my experience as a player but not my caliber of a player:

1) Glides smoother than wood
2) Won’t warp
3) Won’t ding

In the end these are vanity things. But we all have a little vanity and aren’t all playing with $60 Sneaky Petes. Any argument against a Revo is equally an argument against custom cues, inlays, points, wraps, quick release joints, layered tips, $30 chalk, etc. I think price sensitivity is a fair concern for any of these things.

Efren can beat me with a house cue. *shrug*

My Mezz WX700 don't ding either and stays smooth. Some players forget they're playing pool and bang the balls around with their shaft like they're playing field hockey. A buddy of mine complains about dents all the time. I tell him to stop being lazy and grab the balls with his hand, then the dents will be gone. LOL

 

[JC]

To me it’s not about pretending a stick will make me play better. It’s about a couple conveniences that affect my experience as a player but not my caliber of a player:

1) Glides smoother than wood
2) Won’t warp
3) Won’t ding

In the end these are vanity things. But we all have a little vanity and aren’t all playing with $60 Sneaky Petes. Any argument against a Revo is equally an argument against custom cues, inlays, points, wraps, quick release joints, layered tips, $30 chalk, etc. I think price sensitivity is a fair concern for any of these things.

Efren can beat me with a house cue. *shrug*

If a lePro is a soft tip what do you consider hard?

JC

 

[PhilosopherKing]

I overheard this quite a few times "Predator are just marketing geniuses". They are the Apple of cuemakers. Shiny, but really no better than anything else. I've yet to see anyone I know that went to a Revo that got any better. I was still able to beat them all the same way with my $120 shaft. A change in how you play is way more effective to play better than trying new shafts/cues. If a $500 shaft will make me stop moving my wrist or turn my arm or make me learn new position patterns or keep me from shooting before I was ready to shoot, I'll be counting out my 20s the same day.

i have a suspicion that players who start with ld get better faster.

no warping is worth all the wood shafts in the world to me, especially the ones from cuemakers who think the customer should be sh*t out of luck if a shaft on a $3000 cue goes banana on them.

i just don't know what to think when a cuemaker finds it acceptable for 1 of 2 shafts that are stored together to warp.

 

[MattPoland]

If a lePro is a soft tip what do you consider hard?



JC

I should adjust that statement a little. LePro being non-layered hit pretty darn soft when brand new. And they sure love to mushroom. I know they’ve been rated medium with some density tests and they get harder through playing and compaction. It might just be that I haven’t played with a truly soft tip yet.

I’d consider any phenolic tips hard. But that’s an extreme. I consider Triangle tips hard. Any tip that sounds like a miscue when you hit it good.

http://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/tip_hardness_chart.pdf

 

[trob]

I hit some balls with a friend's revo.............. just another gimmick .......... totally not worth the price........... but I commend the great marketing....................LOL

Kim

Why did you waste your money on the custom cues you advertise in your signature. They aren’t going to make you play better. Go get a cue from Walmart since they are all the same.

 

[HawaiianEye]

I hit some balls with a friend's revo.............. just another gimmick .......... totally not worth the price........... but I commend the great marketing....................LOL

Kim

I won't speak for the REVO, but I have a Becue that I think will hit just as good, if not better, than any cue with a wood shaft made by anybody.

I'm talking PLAYABILITY...NOT looks.

Talking about gimmicks, I think a gimmick is a $5 blank of shaft wood, with a $2 ferrule, a $2 joint, and a $5 tip that sells for hundreds of dollars...especially from NAME makers. Then some of them use their own brand of non-standard pins so you can't easily get shafts from other sources. And to top it off, if/when you can ever get ahold of them to get another shaft made, they either are too busy or you have to wait forever.

I have custom cues, so I'm not badmouthing them...I'm just telling the facts.

I have a feeling that high-dollar custom cue sales will decline due to the increasing popularity of high-quality production cues, and especially those being made of materials that are "higher tech" than wood.

 

[trfitters]

I won't speak for the REVO, but I have a Becue that I think will hit just as good, if not better, than any cue with a wood shaft made by anybody.

I'm talking PLAYABILITY...NOT looks.

Talking about gimmicks, I think a gimmick is a $5 blank of shaft wood, with a $2 ferrule, a $2 joint, and a $5 tip that sells for hundreds of dollars...especially from NAME makers. Then some of them use their own brand of non-standard pins so you can't easily get shafts from other sources. And to top it off, if/when you can ever get ahold of them to get another shaft made, they either are too busy or you have to wait forever.

I have custom cues, so I'm not badmouthing them...I'm just telling the facts.

I have a feeling that high-dollar custom cue sales will decline due to the increasing popularity of high-quality production cues, and especially those being made of materials that are "higher tech" than wood.

So you’re saying the time it takes to build a cue and the skill set acquired to do it properly shouldn’t be part of the cost?

 

[GoldCrown]

I have one ordered with a radial pin in the larger size, but no butt.
Deanoc needs to buy something that will fit, so I can borrow it, and not
waste my money on it, in case I hate it. I wish they would paint it beige.
jack

And use a cross thread adaptor/extension to use on other butts

 

[buckshotshoey]

A friend of mine got his REVO yesterday that was on order from Cuestix
(I think that's right). It took about 6 weeks . He ordered the larger
size but the smaller one is what he got. Maybe some one didn't take it
and he did, so he got it sooner, I don't know. Anyway I played with it
for a while. It did not make a tink sound like I've heard people say. It
made a solid sound. When hit with extreme English it still hit pretty solid.
It is very low deflection, and inside is very easy. Since I hit most shots
with a little outside so it took a little while to adjust. It was smooth but
(and this could just be me ) it kind of reminded me of scratching a blackboard.
I have one ordered with a radial pin in the larger size, but no butt.
Deanoc needs to buy something that will fit, so I can borrow it, and not
waste my money on it, in case I hate it. I wish they would paint it beige.
jack

I haven't read every single Revo thread. It would be a waste of my time. But the ones I did read mentioned a dead sound when hitting the cue ball. Not a tink sound. Not sure where you got this from.

The dead sound could be from the soft tip used. And why is a soft tip the only choice? I would be interested to hear some experiences with many different tips and hardnesses on the Revo. Not just the Predator soft tip.

 

[poolhustler]

I haven't read every single Revo thread. It would be a waste of my time. But the ones I did read mentioned a dead sound when hitting the cue ball. Not a tink sound. Not sure where you got this from.

The dead sound could be from the soft tip used. And why is a soft tip the only choice? I would be interested to hear some experiences with many different tips and hardnesses on the Revo. Not just the Predator soft tip.

I love my Revo with the Victory soft, but I ordered some Mediums to try out as well.

 

[MattPoland]

My Revo came with a Predator Victory Medium tip. I wouldn’t characterize my hit as a tink or a dead sound.

 

[BC21]

I can't help it....every time I see a revo I think of an off-colored hood or mismatched fender on a car in need of a paint job.

 

[ChrisinNC]

I haven't read every single Revo thread. It would be a waste of my time. But the ones I did read mentioned a dead sound when hitting the cue ball. Not a tink sound. Not sure where you got this from.

The dead sound could be from the soft tip used. And why is a soft tip the only choice? I would be interested to hear some experiences with many different tips and hardnesses on the Revo. Not just the Predator soft tip.

After playing with a 12.9mm Revo shaft for 6 months, then going back to my Vantage shaft, I can confirm that at least for my shaft and my experience, it is certainly a totally different sound and feel when you hit it, as compared to all other Predator shafts. I could see why that might be an issue for some players, as where for others it may not be a factor at all.

In my opinion, the importance of increasingly low deflection shafts in making a player better is way overrated. Yes, a Revo shaft deflects less than probably any other shaft, particularly the 12.4mm Revo. However, I don't think less deflection or even a shaft with no deflection is going to make anyone a better player.

Skilled players can adjust fairly quickly in their aiming process, to various levels of deflection in any shaft successfully. All they are looking for is a shaft that deflects consistently. Players who are not as skilled still aren't going to be able to pocket balls as well, regardless of the shaft's level of deflection, because their aiming and their stroke consistency, and their ability to deliver the CB exactly where they are aiming is not as precise as a better player's is.

 

[jrctherake]

In my opinion, the importance of increasingly low deflection shafts in making a player better is way overrated. Yes, a Revo shaft deflects less than probably any other shaft, particularly the 12.4mm Revo. However, I don't think less deflection or even a shaft with no deflection is going to make anyone a better player.

Skilled players can adjust fairly quickly in their aiming process, to various levels of deflection in any shaft successfully. All they are looking for is a shaft that deflects consistently. Players who are not as skilled still aren't going to be able to pocket balls as well, regardless of the shaft's level of deflection, because their aiming and their stroke consistency, and their ability to deliver the CB exactly where they are aiming is not as precise as a better player's is.

I agree with most of what you said.

However, I did improve with the revo.

Short of it:

Wooden LD shaft.....10 ball ghost race on 9' pro-am average score 7 - 4 win.

Revo 12.4 shaft.......10 ball ghost race on 9' pro-am average score 7-1 win.

I call that a big improvement. Everything is same table time, concentration, game played ....everything except the shaft.

Six months ago I would have said, "your crazy if you think any certain cue, shaft, glove etc....is gonna make any measurable difference in your game".

I stand corrected in my case.....its a good thing.

Players I use to play even with......now I am hammering them on average.

Rake