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Harvywallbanger

Harvywallbanger

Josh Eisert
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I go back and forth. I have been playing my whole life. I have never passed 'A' speed but came close a few times. I can honestly say I love this game but during my life I have been side tracked more than once. I honestly believe that if I gave everything I had I could become the best player in the world. My game is very strange. My average game is in the middle of a tornado. If its bad, its real bad. If its good, its real good. If I'm on I can see things that I believe people can't see. I don't know what it is but I have surely F*#kED up what could have been. I just turned 30 and I have a bad taste in my mouth. When I was 12 I was on the road to be a pro and pissed it all away for drugs and stupid sh*t. It's true I am drunk now but damn it I am pissed. To answer the question of the thread........you have no idea! I'm going back in time and coming back with everything I have. My name is Josh Eisert and you WILL here of me within 3 years! Take care. How bad do you want it? I just told you now you tell me.
 
Harvywallbanger said:
I go back and forth. I have been playing my whole life. I have never passed 'A' speed but came close a few times. I can honestly say I love this game but during my life I have been side tracked more than once. I honestly believe that if I gave everything I had I could become the best player in the world. My game is very strange. My average game is in the middle of a tornado. If its bad, its real bad. If its good, its real good. If I'm on I can see things that I believe people can't see. I don't know what it is but I have surely F*#kED up what could have been. I just turned 30 and I have a bad taste in my mouth. When I was 12 I was on the road to be a pro and pissed it all away for drugs and stupid sh*t. It's true I am drunk now but damn it I am pissed. To answer the question of the thread........you have no idea! I'm going back in time and coming back with everything I have. My name is Josh Eisert and you WILL here of me within 3 years! Take care. How bad do you want it? I just told you now you tell me.
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Well Josh the best way that I found to get the bugs out of your game and clean it up take some lessons from some pros... If you game is as good as you say when your on track then you will be able to find out what turns on the zone switch and keep you there... Hope to hear of you in 3 years I am shooting for 2008 I play about 8 hours per day drills and tornaments and just playing other people Good luck and merry christmas
 
Harvywallbanger said:
I go back and forth. I have been playing my whole life. I have never passed 'A' speed but came close a few times. I can honestly say I love this game but during my life I have been side tracked more than once. I honestly believe that if I gave everything I had I could become the best player in the world. My game is very strange. My average game is in the middle of a tornado. If its bad, its real bad. If its good, its real good. If I'm on I can see things that I believe people can't see. I don't know what it is but I have surely F*#kED up what could have been. I just turned 30 and I have a bad taste in my mouth. When I was 12 I was on the road to be a pro and pissed it all away for drugs and stupid sh*t. It's true I am drunk now but damn it I am pissed. To answer the question of the thread........you have no idea! I'm going back in time and coming back with everything I have. My name is Josh Eisert and you WILL here of me within 3 years! Take care. How bad do you want it? I just told you now you tell me.
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Good luck to you, Josh!

Jim
 
suggestion....

Get off the booze
Go back to school
There is no money in pool

If you like playing, then play. In all honesty you sound more like a 15 year old with all the talk about "being the best player in the world". You're 30 years old...best take a good look at your life and reorganize you're priorities.

Sorry if that sounds harsh.
 
Harvywallbanger said:
I go back and forth. I have been playing my whole life. I have never passed 'A' speed but came close a few times. I can honestly say I love this game but during my life I have been side tracked more than once. I honestly believe that if I gave everything I had I could become the best player in the world. My game is very strange. My average game is in the middle of a tornado. If its bad, its real bad. If its good, its real good. If I'm on I can see things that I believe people can't see. I don't know what it is but I have surely F*#kED up what could have been. I just turned 30 and I have a bad taste in my mouth. When I was 12 I was on the road to be a pro and pissed it all away for drugs and stupid sh*t. It's true I am drunk now but damn it I am pissed. To answer the question of the thread........you have no idea! I'm going back in time and coming back with everything I have. My name is Josh Eisert and you WILL here of me within 3 years! Take care. How bad do you want it? I just told you now you tell me.
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Enjoy your hangover.
 
Salamander said:
suggestion....

Get off the booze
Go back to school
There is no money in pool

If you like playing, then play. In all honesty you sound more like a 15 year old with all the talk about "being the best player in the world". You're 30 years old...best take a good look at your life and reorganize you're priorities.

Sorry if that sounds harsh.
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TAP TAP!!!
 
the only way to not get ridiculed for posting stuff about how good you....were, are, or could have been, is to show it. Put up some videos like people have done on this forum, or do something in a tourament and put a link up that proves it, other than that its like a fat girl coloring over the 1 in her size 14 jeans so she feels thin.
 
Lighten up on Josh. He just barred his soul to the entire board and there's no point cutting it into ribbons.

He'll have to deal with it all in the morning.

Jim
 
Harvywallbanger said:
I go back and forth. I have been playing my whole life. I have never passed 'A' speed but came close a few times. I can honestly say I love this game but during my life I have been side tracked more than once. I honestly believe that if I gave everything I had I could become the best player in the world. My game is very strange. My average game is in the middle of a tornado. If its bad, its real bad. If its good, its real good. If I'm on I can see things that I believe people can't see. I don't know what it is but I have surely F*#kED up what could have been. I just turned 30 and I have a bad taste in my mouth. When I was 12 I was on the road to be a pro and pissed it all away for drugs and stupid sh*t. It's true I am drunk now but damn it I am pissed. To answer the question of the thread........you have no idea! I'm going back in time and coming back with everything I have. My name is Josh Eisert and you WILL here of me within 3 years! Take care. How bad do you want it? I just told you now you tell me.
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Quit feeling so sorry for yourself. You want to be a good player and show the world how great you are? Then get off your ass and go to work, and quit your complaining. Read the second post right below yours, 9Ball in MN. That's how you become a top player, you work your ass off. It ain't gonna be easy, a lot of long days and nights hitting balls.

But you know that already. That's what you're really afraid of, all the hard work required to really be a top player. And that's why three years from now, no one will still know who you are. So Josh, quit bullshi--ing yourself and all of us. We're not a bunch of dummies on here.

You're a lot more fortunate than you realize. You're relatively young with most of your life ahead of you. You can do anything you set your mind to, if you quit dreaming and start working toward a goal. But sitting around feeling sorry for yourself isn't very productive. If you want sympathy, go to an AA meeting. It's probably not a bad idea anyway. Someone there may tell you the same thing as me.

Let me say one last thing. EVERY top player out there, every one, has had to overcome obstacles to make it. Many a lot worse then yours. Read this months issue of Billiard Digest. There is an article about Dennis Orcollo from the Philipines. What this guy went thru to make it to the top. And I've never heard him complain about how tough his life was. Efren the same, and Ronnie Alcano the 2006 World Champion. I guarantee you they all had it a lot rougher than you.

You can't go back Josh, but you can go forward. Get out of your head and get on a table and just hit balls for a week or two. You might actually start to feel a little better about yourself. You say you're a pool player, than be one!
 
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jay helfert said:
Quit feeling so sorry for yourself. You want to be a good player and show the world how great you are? Then get off your ass and go to work, and quit your complaining. Read the second post right below yours, 9Ball in MN. That's how you become a top player, you work your ass off. It ain't gonna be easy, a lot of long days and nights hitting balls.

But you know that already. That's what you're really afraid of, all the hard work required to really be a top player. And that's why three years from now, no one will still know who you are. So Josh, quit bullshi--ing yourself and all of us. We're not a bunch of dummies on here.

You're a lot more fortunate than you realize. You're relatively young with most of your life ahead of you. You can do anything you set your mind to, if you quit dreaming and start working toward a goal. But sitting around feeling sorry for yourself isn't very productive. If you want sympathy, go to an AA meeting. It's probably not a bad idea anyway. Someone there may tell you the same thing as me.

Let me say one last thing. EVERY top player out there, every one, has had to overcome obstacles to make it. Many a lot worse then yours. Read this months issue of Billiard Digest. There is an article about Dennis Orcollo from the Philipines. What this guy went thru to make it to the top. And I've never heard him complain about how tough his life was. Efren the same, and Ronnie Alcano the 2006 World Champion. I guarantee you they all had it a lot rougher than you.

You can't go back Josh, but you can go forward. Get out of your head and get on a table and just hit balls for a week or two. You might actually start to feel a little better about yourself. You say you're a pool player, than be one!
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Tough love, Jay. Sometimes it works.

Jim
 
Well Josh, the good thing about this sport is that, unkike alot of other sports, you are NOT washed up at 30 years old. Get sober and clean and play in as many tournies as you can. The road life is a tough life. but you can play and enjoy the game through tournies and still makes some $$$. Good luck with your quest to be the best. As for me, I love the game and wish I had started at an earlier age. I came to realize long ago that I am as good as I will ever get, but that hasnt killed my desire to play and compete. I just match up alot better instead :D

Southpaw
 
Ditto what everyone else said.

Getting that out of the way.. I'll answer your question.

I want it bad enough to work in Iraq for 1 1/2 to 2 years, to get enough money to redo my garage, get a pool table, and take off work for a year, not to become a pro per se, but just to become as good as I can within a year, and then go back to working to support my family. "As good as I can be" might be pro level, might not be.

Is that wanting it bad enough??

Russ
 
To ALL the posters that replied. Whats all this "as good as you say you are crap?" anyway? I have NEVER been in the league of a great pool player and I never suggested otherwise. I SAID, "I have came close to 'A' speed! That is a far cry of saying I am the greatest player in the world. I SAID " I think I can be the greatest player in the world." And I do. Thats what the thread is about. How bad do you WANT it. Not how bad do you have it! Anyways without getting into detail Jay hit the nail on the head. I do feel sorry for myself alot. I love the person that I am and I get pissed when things don't go my way. Instead of working for my goals I make excuses and try to make everything better by talking about it. In fact I have been a quiter my whole life but thats not really what I wanted this thread to be about. I want to hear about guys and gals that have desire. More desire than one can imagine. We're all on here because we obviously have an obsession with pool. Lets here about how bad you want it. How bad do you want to become the best player in the world? I told you but got slammed with people saying "if your that good" ................I NEVER SAID I WAS THAT GOOD! I SAID, " I am going to be that good." If I dont think I can become that good I'll just quit and play video games. I can become that good. PERIOD! And I will. Now it seems I talked myself into a corner thanks to you kind folks but I'm up for it. 3 years is what I said. I wrote it, it shall be done. SAVE THIS MOTHER %&^$(* thread because I am going to prove Jay wrong. Jay I like ya but you have now officially declared war. I love reading your stories and one day I will be in them.


DISCLAIMER: I still never said I am that good so don't start your dumb shit people. I am telling you I have the heart and will show it. Jay you are wrong about me and I will prove it. I will even match up with you at the derby to prove it. Something cheap and for fun. If I catch a gear I can win. Then afterwards maybe we'll play heads up hold'em:p
 
Harvywallbanger said:
To ALL the posters that replied. Whats all this "as good as you say you are crap?" anyway? I have NEVER been in the league of a great pool player and I never suggested otherwise. I SAID, "I have came close to 'A' speed! That is a far cry of saying I am the greatest player in the world. I SAID " I think I can be the greatest player in the world." And I do. Thats what the thread is about. How bad do you WANT it. Not how bad do you have it! Anyways without getting into detail Jay hit the nail on the head. I do feel sorry for myself alot. I love the person that I am and I get pissed when things don't go my way. Instead of working for my goals I make excuses and try to make everything better by talking about it. In fact I have been a quiter my whole life but thats not really what I wanted this thread to be about. I want to hear about guys and gals that have desire. More desire than one can imagine. We're all on here because we obviously have an obsession with pool. Lets here about how bad you want it. How bad do you want to become the best player in the world? I told you but got slammed with people saying "if your that good" ................I NEVER SAID I WAS THAT GOOD! I SAID, " I am going to be that good." If I dont think I can become that good I'll just quit and play video games. I can become that good. PERIOD! And I will. Now it seems I talked myself into a corner thanks to you kind folks but I'm up for it. 3 years is what I said. I wrote it, it shall be done. SAVE THIS MOTHER %&^$(* thread because I am going to prove Jay wrong. Jay I like ya but you have now officially declared war. I love reading your stories and one day I will be in them.


DISCLAIMER: I still never said I am that good so don't start your dumb shit people. I am telling you I have the heart and will show it. Jay you are wrong about me and I will prove it. I will even match up with you at the derby to prove it. Something cheap and for fun. If I catch a gear I can win. Then afterwards maybe we'll play heads up hold'em:p
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GOOD! Works for me.

This is a start Josh, owning up to who you are.
My letter to you should have been a PM, but I wouldn't have changed a word. That is why I am answering you publicly as well.
 
Harvywallbanger said:
I'm up for it. 3 years is what I said. I wrote it, it shall be done.
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Harv',
Why 3 years??? Just quit the booze, move to St. Louis, hang out at the Billiard Bullpen every day and you should be able to do it in 2 years. JMO.

Good luck and hope to see you at DCC.
 
Harvywallbanger said:
I go back and forth. I have been playing my whole life. I have never passed 'A' speed but came close a few times. I can honestly say I love this game but during my life I have been side tracked more than once. I honestly believe that if I gave everything I had I could become the best player in the world. My game is very strange. My average game is in the middle of a tornado. If its bad, its real bad. If its good, its real good. If I'm on I can see things that I believe people can't see. I don't know what it is but I have surely F*#kED up what could have been. I just turned 30 and I have a bad taste in my mouth. When I was 12 I was on the road to be a pro and pissed it all away for drugs and stupid sh*t. It's true I am drunk now but damn it I am pissed. To answer the question of the thread........you have no idea! I'm going back in time and coming back with everything I have. My name is Josh Eisert and you WILL here of me within 3 years! Take care. How bad do you want it? I just told you now you tell me.
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First, I wish you the best of luck and much success in your future endeavor and hope to see you on tour. I won't have as much luck, as i want to fine tune my skillz and wait till 2010 to see what happens.

And I do want it bad, but i need to ensure I have a clear head before making any kind of important decisions. I've planned on going on tour at least in 2010, and in the mean time gain experience by getting in amateur events locally. If i feel confident enuff, i will try the florida tour 2008/2009. I can't say I would make it, but i've been known to be meet all deadlines right-on-the-dot. I have played with some pros... just for laughs, and most of them had told me the same thing: "I have potential, but don't quit your day job just yet." And that's what I plan to do. If the cards lay right, I will do as said above, if not, i already have other plans in place, either being a league operator and share my love for pool, or remain the IT biz and find other ways to enjoy pool; like being a cue maker (which I think I would be a good candidate). I, like others have some fascination of pool. being the best in the world is not my priority. :)
 
I really don't understand the intent of this thread.

If you can't find other people to believe in you, then you are going to have to believe in yourself.

And typing into a thinking box with screen attached does little to demonstrate how much heart, work, and dedication you have.

BTW...most 30 year olds are looking at settling down, buying a house, getting married, and some are thinking about having children.

Pool is just a fun parlor game, and should be viewed as such.

If you think you can survive and make a living off of pool, maybe so, but the odds are stacked against you and everyone else.
 
Who cares what other people think, why ask? Do what makes you happy, nothing else really matters.

Die with your party pants on!!!!! <----- not meant as a licence to drink your face off
 
Gregg said:
I really don't understand the intent of this thread.

If you can't find other people to believe in you, then you are going to have to believe in yourself.

And typing into a thinking box with screen attached does little to demonstrate how much heart, work, and dedication you have.

BTW...most 30 year olds are looking at settling down, buying a house, getting married, and some are thinking about having children.

Pool is just a fun parlor game, and should be viewed as such.

If you think you can survive and make a living off of pool, maybe so, but the odds are stacked against you and everyone else.
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I think that pretty much sums it all up. Fact is, you're going to need that day-job if you're going to want to pay the bills on the first of the month. Poolplayers that think there are companies chomping at the bit, waiting to sponsor you are in for a rude awakening and consistently winning professional tournaments is only accomplished by a small portion of the entire world and usually for small durations.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I think that pretty much sums it all up. Fact is, you're going to need that day-job if you're going to want to pay the bills on the first of the month. Poolplayers that think there are companies chomping at the bit, waiting to sponsor you are in for a rude awakening and consistently winning professional tournaments is only accomplished by a small portion of the entire world and usually for small durations.
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Unfortunate, but true! One question for the thread--what percentage of professional caliber players do you think make a living without having some other source of income?
 
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