How beneficial is an aiming system?

This reminds me of when there were tests done by Platinum Billiards and others who built the robot arm to shoot a shot consistently the same way, in order to test cue ball deflection (squirt) and measure it objectively.

Perhaps we need to build a "CTE Robot" that can only pivot L-R or R-L, always the same amount, and see if that CTE Robot shooting without any adjustments or variables can make shots identically to humans, heh.
 
This reminds me of when there were tests done by Platinum Billiards and others who built the robot arm to shoot a shot consistently the same way, in order to test cue ball deflection (squirt) and measure it objectively.

Perhaps we need to build a "CTE Robot" that can only pivot L-R or R-L, always the same amount, and see if that CTE Robot shooting without any adjustments or variables can make shots identically to humans, heh.

And how do you propose to get the robot to see the visuals for initial alignment?
 
This reminds me of when there were tests done by Platinum Billiards and others who built the robot arm to shoot a shot consistently the same way, in order to test cue ball deflection (squirt) and measure it objectively.

Perhaps we need to build a "CTE Robot" that can only pivot L-R or R-L, always the same amount, and see if that CTE Robot shooting without any adjustments or variables can make shots identically to humans, heh.

I think that's a great idea. Let me know when you complete the project, I'll look forward to viewing the video. I think a $75K multi axis robot combined with about $50K worth of machine vision and probably $30K plus worth of Engineering Support to write the program should do it.

Of course, you could take the time you're wasting here making those kind of silly posts working on learning CTE/Pro One, then you wouldn't need the robot to convince you.

I'm wondering though, what kind of aiming system do you use now? Did you choose it because of a robot hitting shots using it or was it that a Professor of Mathematics at MIT provided you with the mathematical proofs? And the last time you went to Mortons for dinner, did you require that you be allowed to jam your arm up the cow's butt before you ordered your steak?
 
A robot will come with the same shot line everytime .
The truth will be known,an end to a endless argument.
 
Aiming systems are probably more benifical to better players.

That being said some aiming systems require to much to figure out in a process that should only take a few seconds once learned. Feedback from your routine is Essential ,you need to know why your missing.

If a persons routine puts them in a position where they can't tell if they're undercutting ,on the mark or over cutting the ball from the get go ,they'll have trouble getting better at pocketing balls.

I use CTE on pretty much every shot, and I can tell you that while the system took me a little while to become proficient at it, I can perform it in a manner where you would never even know I was doing it from time or form. Also, it does not in any way inhibit your ability to tell why you missed a ball. It simply lines you up correctly, then you shoot.
 
An Easier Way is the real argument

I think that's a great idea. Let me know when you complete the project, I'll look forward to viewing the video. I think a $75K multi axis robot combined with about $50K worth of machine vision and probably $30K plus worth of Engineering Support to write the program should do it.

Of course, you could take the time you're wasting here making those kind of silly posts working on learning CTE/Pro One, then you wouldn't need the robot to convince you.

I'm wondering though, what kind of aiming system do you use now? Did you choose it because of a robot hitting shots using it or was it that a Professor of Mathematics at MIT provided you with the mathematical proofs? And the last time you went to Mortons for dinner, did you require that you be allowed to jam your arm up the cow's butt before you ordered your steak?

I think that feel players have a tendency to find all the things that you do in cte , real cte etc just a bit more than they are willing to do just to play pool and thats where I think a lot of argument comes from.

To me thats what divides the camps and then all the arguments of working vs not come in. CTE has its own audience, market and people who believe they arent getting any better until they use it.

If you know how you do what you do and you have something that you go by even if its the reflection of the lights on the ball I think its a help but the test is how you operate under pressure, under shot situations involving spin and who has the ultimate knowledge and prowess to win..between two players.

I think it works, thats proven there are too many people that use and argue about it to say its doesnt but that product isnt for everyone and its evident here, you cant make everyone happy, its a fact of life. People have a right to believe what they want.
 
Oh, now I understand, you can adjust, whether it be subconsciously or consciously. The reality is you have no idea, nor do I or anybody else, what kind of subconscious adjustments your mind is making. Fact. You might think you are using something while you are not.

You subconscious, from all the shots you have ever taken, is constantly learning and calculating outcomes. Why did you miss once your subconscious knows the shot? Simple, your conscious mind is thinking one thing, and fighting that of the subconscious. You are trying to consciously shoot the shot and your subconscious tries to make a correction and you steer the shot.

When people believe somebody is an authority information bypasses the critical faculty of the mind like a hot knife through butter, hypnosis. Once that idea is planted in the mind, then it is reinforced, the power of compounding takes affect and each time the idea gets stronger and stronger. You believe no matter what proof is put in front of you as the critical faculty just kicks the idea to the curb because it doesn't fit your belief system.

Religion and doctors are great examples of this. There have been documented cases of people going to the doctor, told they have a few months to live, and in a few months they die. After the autopsy they have been found not to have the disease they were told they had. The mind believed it, coming from an authority and it happened.

You believed Hal Houle, or Stan are authorities. You went to one of them and made a shot, a simple cut in the corner. You have made this same shot hundreds of times, and your mind knows how it is done. You have a new idea in your head your subconscious is willing to accept because it came from an authority in your mind. Another simple shot is made, Bam, you increased the power of that original suggestion. You do it again and again with simple shots set up to make you succeed. Each time it strengthens every previous suggestion. The keep getting stronger and stronger, you now have a new belief, even though you are actually shooting shots with your subconscious that you have shot many times before. Now your conscious mind thinks it is something else.

Don't believe me? Sit with a hypnotist who is changing the belief system of a smoker. The smoker will give you a reason why they smoke. Their conscious decision why they smoke. Under hypnosis you will find their conscious decision is incorrect. The subconscious will probably say when I was in 8th grade I wanted to be in this crowd, they didn't accept me. I started smoking with them, and them became accepted. It made me feel good. All along they have been trying to quit because they think it is because they lost weight when they smoked or some other idiotic idea.

Do you really want to learn something, buy Hypnotherapy by Dave Elman. Find out the power of the mind, find out how come Mayo Clinic became so successful, it wasn't because of doctors.

Wow.

So when I set up a very difficult shot that I have never made before and make it using just CTE as prescribed then it just my subconscious doing the work?

Also you completely missed what I said about adjusting. I said I can line up with CTE and then adjust CONSCIOUSLY to what I need to cheat the pocket.

There should be a test for who can participate in these conversations. I am beginning to have a much better understanding of why some folks cannot get off the carousel.

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From what I can gather you've spent a small fortune on fishing, yet you're still rubbish at it. How does that analogy work then? :confused:

Not at all. I have spent very little learning to fish. So I know enough about fishing to not starve and not enough to build a fleet.

You don't know how to fish at all. But what you do know how to do is stand by the water beating it with a stick to insure no one else can catch any fish. You run around disrupting the fishing lessons and make a nuisance of yourself.



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I think that feel players have a tendency to find all the things that you do in cte , real cte etc just a bit more than they are willing to do just to play pool and thats where I think a lot of argument comes from.

To me thats what divides the camps and then all the arguments of working vs not come in. CTE has its own audience, market and people who believe they arent getting any better until they use it.

If you know how you do what you do and you have something that you go by even if its the reflection of the lights on the ball I think its a help but the test is how you operate under pressure, under shot situations involving spin and who has the ultimate knowledge and prowess to win..between two players.

I think it works, thats proven there are too many people that use and argue about it to say its doesnt but that product isnt for everyone and its evident here, you cant make everyone happy, its a fact of life. People have a right to believe what they want.


I agree. You won't find any of the CTE Users saying it is for everyone. I don't necessarily see it being a fit for the really casual player. They probably don't have a straight stroke and they aren't likely to put any effort into learning it. And that's okay, at least IMHO. There's a lot more golfers that spend thousands on new drivers and irons than those who invest that money into lessons and time on the practice range. And that's okay as well. If people are enjoying themselves, that's what it is all about.
 
Watch out 8, that means he'll never shut up about you. He only ignores those he likes. :love:

I'm special ...funny thing about this guy he's an expert with pro1 ,but I bet he can't run a rack of nine ball.
 
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I'm special ...funny thing about this guy he's an expert with pro1 ,but I bet he can't run a rack of nine ball.

I have $1,000 that says you're all mouth with nothing to back it up with. Is that enough for you or would you like to up that wager? Or would you prefer to just eat your words because you don't have the wherewithal to cash that check your mouth just wrote?
 
I use CTE on pretty much every shot, and I can tell you that while the system took me a little while to become proficient at it, I can perform it in a manner where you would never even know I was doing it from time or form. Also, it does not in any way inhibit your ability to tell why you missed a ball. It simply lines you up correctly, then you shoot.

Curious ,you have any videos of you playing?
 
I'm going to temporarily remove you from my ignore list. I'll do it on a 9' Diamond, I'll video tape the run and post it on YouTube. We'll both post the wager with an neutral 3rd party.

So are you just flappin your yap as usual or you going to stand behind your words like a real man?
 
I have $1,000 that says you're all mouth with nothing to back it up with. Is that enough for you or would you like to up that wager? Or would you prefer to just eat your words because you don't have the wherewithal to cash that check your mouth just wrote?

Lol...just come an play me. This aiming stuff really gets you worked up.


Thought you had me on ignore.
 
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Lol...just come an play me. This aiming stuff really gets you work up .

Just what I thought. Nothing but mouth. You want mathematical proof about CTE/Pro One? Well we now have written proof you're nothing dude. Thanks for making a complete fool of yourself for everyone to see and show you have no backbone whatsoever. Just all mouth.

Back on ignore where you deserve to be. Let me know if you grow a set dude.
 
Nobcity knows CTE Anthony.

What is the real issue here? I am trying to understand why it always ends up in a war.

Do people think CTE isn't real?
Does it offend folks that other's have had success with it?
Do people not like to see other's get ahead?

I really am at a loss for why people who have no interest in CTE continue to chime in on the topic.

I don't use TOI and know very little about it. I am not over there on a daily basis trashing CJ and his students.

Does anyone know the root of the problem?

I'm special ...funny thing about this guy he's an expert with pro1 ,but I bet he can't run a rack of nine ball.
 
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