How do you win from here?

It's off the short rail a bit, I'd take a swing at a little one pocket shot and shoot for two rails medium soft into the corner. If you hit it anywhere near good being off the rail like that it will go, if you hit it bad, chances are you leave the 10 on the long rail and the CB on the bottom rail safe.
 
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exoldschoolpro said:
Thin the 10 on the right side with right and go 4 raills back to the end rail.
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I like this safety.
I have a little trick to help me make these decisions.
If I went for the shot...would I raise the price....hell no
If I bank the 10 up table ..would I raise the price...no
If I thin it on the right and spin 4 rails...would I raise the price....YES...
If a player can be favorite from this position....I WANNA pay double
 
cleary said:
..I elected to play this safe. I thought for sure it was going to end bad, but I felt it was the best option for my ability.

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It actually ended very well for me. ...
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I don't feel the shot you shot is possible on a real table...either you get a double kiss, or cb travels farther and 10b doesn't get a diamond away from the side rail. But you were there and I was not!

YOu are correct. YOu need to be able to come with the thin hit and cb to far far away. It is base level.

I strive to leave it like this (but I do miss the ob completely ~15% of the time!:o):

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Neil said:
...One possible safety would be to slow roll up onto the ten, having the ten hit the rail, come off the rail, and freeze to the cb. If you can get them to freeze, it limits his options on what he can do...
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This punt shot is not to be dismissed either, due to the ease of its execution.
 
Black-Balled said:
I strive to leave it like this (but I do miss the ob completely ~15% of the time!:o)
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I do miss the object ball about 15% of the time as well!, and 60% of the time, I hit it too thick out of fear and sell out. The other 25%, I get a perfect hit and end up scratching! LOL I gotta work on this.

I'm 100000% lucky I got the object to freeze on the bottom rail and there was no double kiss. Possibly I remember it slightly different than I diagramed it.

After I shot this and ended up winning the set, people told me I should have thinned it as well, I wanted to see what everyone else thought.
 
I like the thin hit safe best. Antoehr option that I don't think was mentioned was the double kiss (hit the OB full, dbl kiss the CB back down table). I learned that one from Pat Fleming. You might have been a lil too far from the OB to pull that one off effectively, tho.

Nice shooting, Cleary. Looks like you might be kissing your D+ rating goodbye, soon. :thumbup:


Eric
 
I'm still upset that I did not win that predator quiet roller 2 raffle cleary :embarrassed2: I had my toes and fingers crossed

Oh and the shot. Since I would probably hit the ball too thick (Like I always do) I would have not went for the thin on the right shot. I too would have stuck the cue ball to the rail (the best that I could have) and sent the 10 ball up table.
 
For me the one and only is the safety-thin cut on the right side of the ten and let the cueball roll short-rail/long-rail/long-rail to the short rail in the kitchen.
 
Practice thinning balls WILL payoff. Especially for one pocket, but it comes up in rotation games a lot too.

Ray
 
Neil said:
This is where it pays to know your opponent. If you know he is a very good banker, then you know you probably aren't going to get a worthwhile safe and you have to go for the shot. No matter what the odds. Better to go down swinging.

However, if you don't know how well he banks, or know that he doesn't bank so well, then you have to way the odds of you making the 10 vs. him banking it in from wherever you leave him.

One possible safety would be to slow roll up onto the ten, having the ten hit the rail, come off the rail, and freeze to the cb. If you can get them to freeze, it limits his options on what he can do.

In any case, it sucks to be in your position right here!
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Think I would go with Neil on this one slow rolling on the ten..
 
Just like others... thinning the right side of the 10B and bringing the CB to the opposite end would be my choice.
 
cleary said:
My first thought was to thin it, like most have said. I struggle thinning balls and even worse with the bridge.

I elected to play this safe. I thought for sure it was going to end bad, but I felt it was the best option for my ability.

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It actually ended very well for me. The 10ball was nearly frozen and the cueball was close to the rail. They tried to bank it and ended up leaving me a 3' straight in shot.

I lucked out but I really wanted to get the opinion of everyone else. I think most are right, thinning the ball is the right shot provided the cueball ends up in a good spot. I don't feel confident enough in it. Its something I should work on.
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I am not a world beater and I agree with the shot you took. It is the easiest shot to execute consistently and it works out just as well as the thin hit many are suggesting, if both are hit correctly. Not sure "most" suggested the thin hit though because many of us have recommended exactly what you did.

I can understand what one person was saying though that from the diagram it looks as though you may either get a double hit of the cue ball or have to hit it hard enough that the cue will drift further to the left. It's very hard to make the diagram show the exact positions of the real shot and in cases like this an eighth of an inch one way or another will completely change your options.
 
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