In league last week I want to hit a straight in shot where the cue ball and object ball were an inch or probably closer to an inch and half apart. My team was telling me it was too close and it'd be a double hit. At what distance would you say it wouldn't be a double hit? I figured it was far enough.
How far away does the cue and OB have to be away from each other for it not to be a double hit?
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It really depends on the skill level of the player and if that player is elevating the cue to avoid the the double hit.
It should be no problem to hit that shot without a foul for a decent player.
Dr. Dave has videos on this.
If the balls are a quarter-inch apart, a player who has practiced the shot can draw the cue ball straight back some with a level stroke shooting straight at the ball. There are multiple techniques to avoid the double hit.
If the balls are an inch apart, it's not hard to draw the cue ball back two or three diamonds -- if you have practiced the shot.
Distance is not as important as the action of the cue ball after the hit. Even if the balls are closer together, you can still shoot the shot and not foul the cue ball. If you are able to stop the cue ball or draw it by using an elevated butt then the shot isn’t a Push or a bad hit. The only time these shots become a foul is when, the cue ball follows the object ball forward.
with a t.d then he can decide. if its between two players an argument is imminent.
the old school pool room method was elevate at east 45 degrees and whatever happens its good. then no arguments.
that works both ways for each player and is fair.
or as craig said if the cueball goes forward with the object ball you can use that as the determination.
up to the opponent to point it out before the shot and not call it after and expect to win the argument.
the old school pool room method was elevate at east 45 degrees and whatever happens its good. then no arguments.
that works both ways for each player and is fair.
or as craig said if the cueball goes forward with the object ball you can use that as the determination.
up to the opponent to point it out before the shot and not call it after and expect to win the argument.
What type of league are you playing? Every league is governed by a set of rules - learn then and play by them.
If you are playing the shot head on according to your description, upon contact of the object ball the cue ball must break back towards you. Any forward movement of the cue ball past the plane of where the object ball was sitting would be considered a foul.
As mentioned it is not about the distance, it's truly about the knowledge and ability of the player taking on the shot.
that works as well but it can be close, and a fight over who is right never works. make a system that works for both and then its fair.
ive seen where if the ball is closer than a chalk width you couldn't shoot it except thin cuts. wrong deal but fair for both sides.
ive seen where if the ball is closer than a chalk width you couldn't shoot it except thin cuts. wrong deal but fair for both sides.
I've seen the opposite extreme as well... beginning players double hit when the 2 balls are 6 or 7 inches apart.
this is in the official onepocket.org rules
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6.8 Close proximity shots — foul criteria: Close proximity shots often come up in One Pocket with no referee available. When stroking towards a ball in close proximity to the cue ball, a double hit foul is indicated when the cue ball is driven immediately forward through the contact point, or immediately forward through the carom tangent line, without first exhibiting the pause and accelerate action of legal follow or draw. This foul criteria applies whether stroking with an elevated cue or not. With advanced skill, it is possible to play close proximity shots without committing these common double hit fouls. Alternatively, players may agree that shooting away at a sufficiently thin angle reasonably avoids a
double hit. A ball declared frozen to the cue ball may be legally stroked through.
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6.8 Close proximity shots — foul criteria: Close proximity shots often come up in One Pocket with no referee available. When stroking towards a ball in close proximity to the cue ball, a double hit foul is indicated when the cue ball is driven immediately forward through the contact point, or immediately forward through the carom tangent line, without first exhibiting the pause and accelerate action of legal follow or draw. This foul criteria applies whether stroking with an elevated cue or not. With advanced skill, it is possible to play close proximity shots without committing these common double hit fouls. Alternatively, players may agree that shooting away at a sufficiently thin angle reasonably avoids a
double hit. A ball declared frozen to the cue ball may be legally stroked through.
If the balls are frozen you can do anything you want as long as it is a continuous stroke. No need to kick at the ball to make a good hit.
problem is you cant have your opponent decide if the cue ball went forward and stopped or not before going forward. what do you think he is going to say.
the only way is to decide what can be done before the shot is made. that is what works be dammed the rules of which cant be determined to both players agreement.
maybe best to agree not to call double hits unless its a push through. if you don't set the parameters earlier on.
the only way is to decide what can be done before the shot is made. that is what works be dammed the rules of which cant be determined to both players agreement.
maybe best to agree not to call double hits unless its a push through. if you don't set the parameters earlier on.
Welcome to pool.
A beginners question, but a good one.
Not applicable in many bars situations due to its just a game/not a sport.
Looking forward to your replies.
Might be a few that aren't real helpful.
good luck
A beginners question, but a good one.
Not applicable in many bars situations due to its just a game/not a sport.
Looking forward to your replies.
Might be a few that aren't real helpful.
good luck
If it’s a tournament/competitive situation, everyone in my area just records it in slow motion and it’s easy to call good or bad.
I came to say this, but my opponent was a 560 Fargo.