How has has Pool change since you first started playing it?

What seems to have changed the most for me (been playing since the late 60's) and has caused me a lot of aggravation is that poolroom etiquette has fallen off the cliff. I mostly see this in leagues, not so much in tournaments or action. You get a player winning their match nowadays and they (and a lot of the time their teammates) whoop and holler and carry on like they just hit the lottery or something. It's getting to be like a football or baseball game with people carrying-on the way they do. Back in the day, a casual observer would have had a tough time figuring out who won a set if they were just watching from the other side of the room. A simple handshake and/or a nod usually sufficed after a match. Sometimes you might get a "nice game" comment form your opponent, but whatever was said or done after a set was almost always done with respect and grace. Not anymore......and I DISLIKE it very much!!!

Maniac
 
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During my tenure I hae also seen many changes and changes are inevitable. I am not so sure many have been for the better, but they work for the majority equally. one shot, red circle's,jump cues,break cues,The new cloths or coverings, leauges? Are these things improvements? I remain unconvinced! But my biggest gripe is how it all affected the action. The tournaments, let's face it, are boring as hel and to expensive to trave now, to see most or participate.

Nowit is cheap sets and sets only unless it's 1 pocket but still very cheap. races to 7 leave barely enough to pay the time. $20 1 pocket, same thing.

one thing that has changed is you don't hear nearly as many asking, " what did you put on that ball" as in years ago,,thank god!!

Few ppol rooms today have cans of Dr Pepper anymore, and if elected King, I will change that!
 
Well without reading any other post cuz it is about my bedtime,(got to get up at 6 am)
1. Bridges have gotten longer
2.People use more extreme english
3.jump cues are now common
4.There are more good players
5.price of pool use to b 10 cent for 9b
6.Billiard room used to have some one rack your balls unless u paid hourly
7 more playing on 7ft tables
8.layered tips
9.pool gadgets
10.Pool on stream THANK GOD
 
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Was talking to a guy over the weekend who has been playing since the early 60's and we were talking how has Pool, Pool Rooms, Pool Equipment HAS CHANGE since we started playing the game.

My first exposure to Pool was at the Boys Club of America in Miami Florida, about 1954. The Pool tables we like the worst there could be by today stands, the Legs were like Loose Sawhorses, I think they folded under the Table for Storage, there was No Slate, the Tables Bed was CHIP Board, and the Felt was just that Felt. Every-time you pocketed a Ball it sounded like there was a Earth Quake in the room with the sound of Rattling Dishes, or Nick Nacks, as the Ball fell and went down the return.

We had only House Cue, there were warped, and most did have tips,and the tables must have been Bar Box Sized if memory is correct. Kids stood on line to play, and as long as you kept winning the only game we knew, 8 Ball you stay on the table all day, for the next challenger to try and take it away from you. Pool tables always had line of kids waiting to play. Pool was in vogue!

Fast forward to the 60's as a teenager I play at the YMCA in California, and there were real Pool Tables by Brunswick, and the games were much more fun on good equipment with decent house cues! That "Y" was in upscale Glendale, CA!

Fast forward again to the 1970's and it was Bakers in Burbank, and North Hollywood Billiard in North Hollywood, both places just west of LA. This was my first exposure to a REAL POOL ROOM, with nothing but POOL like the guy say in the the Hustler, "Just Pool this is Ames" .

This was the first time I saw big money matches, where guy were winning and loosing a month pay in a night of gambling. The hustlers, and road players came when the Ponies were running at Santa Anita, or Hollywood Park, taking money from the unsuspecting guys who thought they were great, or at the very least better than these strangers. Armadas of Rail Birds sat quietly watching the battle for the GREEN than many night went into the we hours of the morning.

Back then there were no instructional book, VHS's, DVD's, or anything, and most of the better Players would SHARE NOTHING they knew about play Pool better. Most people still were playing with house cue, and if you own your own Cue it was a very big deal.

I never saw a Bar box back than, the tables were all 4.5" x 9.0, or 5' x 10', or 6' x 12'ers. Never heard of a pool league. These places did not serve alcohol, or much food with the exception of maybe a Hot Dog that could be heat up in a Shine Oven with a Hot Light. Pool table time, soft drinks, and snakes time paid the bills.

The 80's came and went and I went in to a work my butt off mode hoping to retire early. Than came the 90's and I played Pool again a couple of time a month, but it was on 4.5" x 9.0' Tables, and there were still a lot of REAL POOL Rooms, but many had started going under, and most Pool was being played in Bars on small tables.

Like I said Pool has change a lot in the years I have playing the game. I hope it survive another 50 years, but it seem to be going out of vogue. People seem to want this fast now, no challenge, and video games, computers, the internet is in vogue.










Back then there were no instructional book, VHS's, DVD's, or anything, and most of the better Players would SHARE NOTHING they knew about play Pool better. Most people still were playing with house cue, and if you own your own Cue it was a very big deal.






I use to watch people play one pocket but nobody played for fun . I believe thats one reason it is not as popular as other games.

In the late 60's where i lived and where i started playing the pool roome had 8 ft. Brunswick's , and one room had a 5 x 10 snooker . 8 ball , occasionally 9 ball . Opponent scratched you shot from kitchen .

Only thing cue ball related i learned was draw because it was fun to watch it back up and look cool in front of your buddies . I've never paid mutch attention to change and didn't learn much about the game till my early 30's.

It was a social game to me and a reason to have a few beers . They had juke boxes in the 2 rooms i played in as a young teen but most times they were quiet .I got 2 dollars a week allowance back then , if i didn't play Friday night , i'd have it spent pretty quick Saturday afternoon . Penny a minute each player .

I watched Color of Money and the Vinnie character would have lasted 5 minutes in the rooms i played in , not to mention the hell he would have caught for having his name on his shirt .


Speaking of Vinnie brings a couple of incidents to mind , the old guy who ran the pool room from late afternoon to closing would be drunk by about 8 p.m. , and his wife was the ticket lady at the theater .


One night a kid who was one of those kids who matured physically earlier than just about everybody and was pretty rough got in to it with the old guy over how much time was owed and wouldn't pay it and the old guy ran him out .



There was plate glass in the front near the counter and the kid was standing outside pecking on the glass , and when the old man would turn around he would shoot him the finger.


This went on for about 10 minutes and finally the old man had had enough . There was about 4 pinball machines opposite the counter and myself and about 5 others , all with a year or two in age of the kid watching.

The old man turned to us a said that he would give anybody 10 dollars to go outside and kick his ass but nobody took him up on it :D . I found myself wondering if i might not have played at a much higher level had someone taught me how to use english and other aspects of the game earlier .

I can tell you that at 12/13 yrs. old i wasn't that observant watching others play . Maybe it was because serious pool players then didn't want kids around .


Like someone else mentioned the number of players playing at a higher level has increased since 40/50 years ago , nearly everyone i saw played 8 ball , a more forgiving game if you get out of line early .


In the past you could get sideways fast with some in a bar over rules because the were different at every bar. Someone recently posted a small tournament announcement and stated it was bar rules .

I wanted to ask what that was but i wasn't going .
 
I think the gear has changed the most. Tons of different types of tips, laminated everything, and so many cue builders now. I also agree that playing on 7ft is becoming more popular and there's more players who shoot at a higher level; A / AA / Pro.
Mark
 
As many have said, the biggest difference is knowledge of the game, the rules, and what is actually involved in being a good player. I had been playing a lot in bars for a couple years when a guy in Newburgh, NY first told me about the concept of "throw". I thought he was the wisest man I'd ever met.
 
Please excuse the following if it seems a little harsh. Every time I think back on what a grand old game pool used to be and what it's become now, well I get a little edgy. I either have to vent or cry and everyone knows that grown men do not cry. So here it goes:

Courtesy seems to be gone these days. Back then even the assho&# hustlers (most were assho&#@ - kinda a prerequisite) were courteous to some degree.

The dominance of 9-Ball. Nobody plays REAL pool any more.

Pool halls used to look like pool halls. Now they have so many extra's that's it's hard to tell whether it was originally a pool hall or they moved them in as an afterthought.

Bar boxes and leagues. Can't stand either. OK, leagues aren't that bad as long as the beer is cold.

Used to be the only way to get better was to play someone that was better than you. The only way to get real good was to play the best around, and this could get expensive. Now you can get [almost] anything you need to improve on ebay or amazon.

Jump cues - What The....- Get out of line. No problem. Just pull out this stupid stick the size of a donkey's dick and walla!

And now the TV balls - OK who was the genius that decided the new colors were going to be PINK and the color of a turd!

Oh yeah, what Jim said, the cloth was GREEN!

OK, I feel better now..... but I still feel like I wanna cry.

Cheers,
RG
 
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Pool has changed a lot since I started banging balls around. The equipment is just awesome compared to the firewood I started playing with (I had no clue what a Szamboti or a Balabuska was back then or I sure would have bought a couple of them).

1. Super nice cues that can be built to suit you individually.
2. Low deflection shafts for the players who don't like allowing for deflection.
3. Fast napless cloth.
4. Super nice rails.
5. The best tables ever to play on.
6. Many choices for cue balls and ball sets to play with.
7. Special break and jump cues.
8. Texas Express rules to play by.

Just a few things that popped in my mind......

James
 
And now the TV balls - OK who was the genius that decided the new colors were going to be PINK and the color of a turd!

This sounds like it came straight out of Larry the Cable Guy's mouth.

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there. Yesiree!

"Git-R-Done"

Maniac
 
My buddy John who is mids 70's talkes bout the good old days in Pool were you pid by the rack, so rotation was the game. The table were brush all the time, the balls were alway clean, and the houseman would keep the house cues clean, and shiney with polished. Day long ago, never will be the say per John.
 
The game just isn't as fun as it used to be. When I started out we had fun playing pool. Now, it's become so serious all the time that the fun has been takin out of it. Personally, I need to get back to that.
 
The edges of the balls aren't as clear as they used to be 45 years ago. They are kind of fuzzy. That's the biggest change I see, the new balls.
 
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