Just wondering? I have people ask me what my tips sound like and I really don't ever had a good answer for them because I don't notice but an aware some player do associate the sound with the feel and hit....
How important is the sound a tip makes to you?
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Pretty important to me, but I think I just get used to a new sound over time.
More than the actual sound of the tip, it's the initial shock of trying a new tip and having it sound different from what I expect that bothers me the most.
(Some tips sound terrible, though, and make me feel like I'm on the verge of a miscue)
More than the actual sound of the tip, it's the initial shock of trying a new tip and having it sound different from what I expect that bothers me the most.
(Some tips sound terrible, though, and make me feel like I'm on the verge of a miscue)
I have always associated think with hardness. The harder the tip the harder the tink. That being said, there are other sounds like a Ping and have more to do with ferrule plus tip plus maybe bumper (says some people). I like ping more than tink. My current tip has a strange sound that is neither a tink nor a Ping and I don't like it. The sound and the tip, so.....
I play a dawgdud/milkdud. It's pretty quiet, especially on center ball moderate speed shots. A bit louder on extreme english/high or low shots.
Still not a 'high pitch ping' like a hard tip...more of a louder quiet thud.
I used to play a pressed triangle that had a high pitched ping. Same with a Kamui medium brown when it got harder. Both required considerable roughing up to get glaze off..more glazy was more ping. Sometimes would sound downright phenolic.
Fewer miscues with the dud and thud.
Still not a 'high pitch ping' like a hard tip...more of a louder quiet thud.
I used to play a pressed triangle that had a high pitched ping. Same with a Kamui medium brown when it got harder. Both required considerable roughing up to get glaze off..more glazy was more ping. Sometimes would sound downright phenolic.
Fewer miscues with the dud and thud.
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Yup I would say pretty important at least to me. I used to always play with really soft tips and they never felt quite right. Using a kamui black med and it still doesn't feel right but its manageable. Those superpro tips sound and feel good to me….Im guessing thats the tink your talking about.
I think because I grew up in a game room with the loudest Jukebox in the history of trying to play pool that I likely couldn't notice the sound of the tip... You were lucky to hear the sound of the balls...
I had 3 tips on demo shafts last night that are all around 72 on the durometer but they feel completely different... The thing was I had several people talk about the sound differences as much as the feel differences.....
I hit all three and it was apparent if you were listening.....
Appreciate everyone who votes and chimes in on what they think......
I had 3 tips on demo shafts last night that are all around 72 on the durometer but they feel completely different... The thing was I had several people talk about the sound differences as much as the feel differences.....
I hit all three and it was apparent if you were listening.....
Appreciate everyone who votes and chimes in on what they think......
I like a loud ping of a hard tip on ivory ferrules.
I still consider a hard triangle on a backer on ivory the sweetest.
Ive tried duds, kamui, moori, pigs, etc, and just not as much feel. I like all the resonate feedback. You know when you hit it good or bad at contact. Just like a forged iron in golf.
How would you compare your tips to what Im looking for?
I still consider a hard triangle on a backer on ivory the sweetest.
Ive tried duds, kamui, moori, pigs, etc, and just not as much feel. I like all the resonate feedback. You know when you hit it good or bad at contact. Just like a forged iron in golf.
How would you compare your tips to what Im looking for?
I have a shaft with a old moori tip on it and it gave a sweet ping sound, not too loud, it feels about right.
I put another shaft with a triangle tip on the same butt gave a dull thud when hit and also felt quite dead.
But i think it's personal preference, sound or no sound, overall it should not affect the performance of the player.
I put another shaft with a triangle tip on the same butt gave a dull thud when hit and also felt quite dead.
But i think it's personal preference, sound or no sound, overall it should not affect the performance of the player.
The medium has a tink/ping... The hard is LOUD... and The Medium/Hard may be as loud as the hard which is why I pulled it while I am redoing the processing to keep from shrinking the fibers after treatment...
Short answer ummm LOL I wish I knew... That's what I am looking at now to see if it's something I can adjust..... I have had one JossWest with ivory ferrules and that was 1993 so I don't recall much more than kind of what it looked like.... Based on the thread so far I think maybe it would not be insane to record the soundwaves and put them up on the outsville site.... Don't think that one has been doen before LOL....
Chris
I change my tip just for kicks ya know trying new things. A while back I switched from a triangle to a ultraskin heavy hitter. When I went to play the first time with this tip I had earbuds in and loud music playing. I played great right off the bat it was great. Then I ate and when I got back to the table I had removed the headphones and turned off the music. I immediately began miss cueing about once every 6 shots or so. I rarely miss cue... Headphones back on play great so I had a little talk to myself took the headphones off and began deliberately concentrating on my pre shot routine. This obviously fixed my miss cueing. When I changed my tip again to a kamui clear black hard I did the same thing. First with headphones then with out then serious practice.
The funny part is by the time you hear the hit the ball is gone. I suspect though I am no expert that by the time my mind feels the hit through the stick the ball is either leaving or has left. Its a funny thing.
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The funny part is by the time you hear the hit the ball is gone. I suspect though I am no expert that by the time my mind feels the hit through the stick the ball is either leaving or has left. Its a funny thing.
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VERY important.
Sound of the cue / sound of the tip reassures me of consistency :thumbup:
Sound of the cue / sound of the tip reassures me of consistency :thumbup:
I like the instant feed back of a ping. If you pull the trigger to soon in your stroke you get a thud sound,
a good stroke a ping. If you're listening for a ping other noise distractions seem to diminish also.
The more feed back in all ways, the better. Tommy Halliday (doc, Staten Island Tommy) also used to say this
was valuable feed back, many years ago, back in Paramus, New Jersey. Richie Browns "Plaza Billiards".
That's one of the reasons I switched from the Predator Z2 I was using for about 5 or 6 years to the OB Pro.
I found the Z2 audio wise was dead, I also find the OB Pro's to play a little stiffer, which was the other reason.
a good stroke a ping. If you're listening for a ping other noise distractions seem to diminish also.
The more feed back in all ways, the better. Tommy Halliday (doc, Staten Island Tommy) also used to say this
was valuable feed back, many years ago, back in Paramus, New Jersey. Richie Browns "Plaza Billiards".
That's one of the reasons I switched from the Predator Z2 I was using for about 5 or 6 years to the OB Pro.
I found the Z2 audio wise was dead, I also find the OB Pro's to play a little stiffer, which was the other reason.
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I agree with this. And to add, the same tip and cue (and both using open bridge) will sound a little different from one player to the next. Mostly due to grip and grip pressure (IMO).
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There are two related sounds that are important to me: the first is the sound the tip makes when striking the CB and the second is the sound the tip makes when I'm chalking it.
After so many years of playing pool, somehow those two sounds let me know how much spin I'm going to get on the ball. Part of that I suppose is the texture of the tip.
It's kind of a confidence thing. If the tip is making a real hard sound and/or there's not much texture and it's making that kind of sound, I'm going to be feeling that some of the slow spin shots I like to play could be risky and inviting a miscue.
Nowadays there is also the issue of potential delamination when using a layered tip, which the sound of the tip will give away. If the tip has a real solid almost wood-like sound to it when I chalk it, I know it's good, as opposed to a more paper-like sound, which tells me I've got a bad layer somewhere.
All else aside I prefer more of a thunk to a tink.
Lou Figueroa
I've always played with tips that were mediums that were a little on the harder side. If there is a sound associated with that then that is what I prefer because I'm used to it. The bottom line is I really never paid that much attention. If the tip feels like a marshmallow then I probably won't like the sound, but that's really secondary to the feel. As long as it doesn't click like phenolic I'm good.