How many A players in your area?

Tom In Cincy

Tom In Cincy

AKA SactownTom
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When we have big weekend tournaments, we see more players from further away than in our usual weekend events.

We got to talking about how many A players showed up at these events that were locals as opposed to the 'out of towners'

We counted about 30 A players in our area (50 mile radius). That would increase to about 50 if we extended the radius to 150 miles.

I think that is low for Northern California. But, I admit, I haven't seen all the A players and there is a huge difference between the top A players and the bottom A players.

When I lived in Cincinnati, I would venture a guess that there were many more A players in a 150 mile radius (maybe 100+), that includes, Dayton, Columbus, Indianapolis, Louisville and Lexington.

What are your guesses for the number of A players?
 
Chicago is too big to guess and I've been out of the loop for a while. But, I would guess that within the city and burbs that there are maybe 50 true A players if we're talking just 9 or 8 ball. Maybe less. I can't speak to 1 hole and bank players. In my direct area, there are 2. IMO
 
Tom In Cincy said:
When we have big weekend tournaments, we see more players from further away than in our usual weekend events.

We got to talking about how many A players showed up at these events that were locals as opposed to the 'out of towners'

We counted about 30 A players in our area (50 mile radius). That would increase to about 50 if we extended the radius to 150 miles.

I think that is low for Northern California. But, I admit, I haven't seen all the A players and there is a huge difference between the top A players and the bottom A players.

When I lived in Cincinnati, I would venture a guess that there were many more A players in a 150 mile radius (maybe 100+), that includes, Dayton, Columbus, Indianapolis, Louisville and Lexington.

What are your guesses for the number of A players?
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Depends on the definition of "area", Tom.

I think a 150 mile radius is too big. If I took, for example, Phila, PA as the center and drew a 150 mile radius, which would cover just about the entire state of NJ, NYC, Baltimore, most of MD, and D.C., as well as a good portion on PA and DE...I would put this "team" up against any other 150 mile radius in the country :grin:


Eric
 
That about covers it Eric.

Pure concentration populations, figures... maybe 300-500 "A" players in the 150mile area of NYNY, PHilPA, NJ, Mass, CT and RI. Balt?

Are there really that many players that can make a living playing in turnaments and matching up?

Now there are probably 4000+ B+ players? who's main job is supporting the "A" players in tournaments and matching up?


Eric. said:
Depends on the definition of "area", Tom.

I think a 150 mile radius is too big. If I took, for example, Phila, PA as the center and drew a 150 mile radius, which would cover just about the entire state of NJ, NYC, Baltimore, most of MD, and D.C., as well as a good portion on PA and DE...I would put this "team" up against any other 150 mile radius in the country :grin:


Eric
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just me





at least thats what my mom tells me :)



seriously though, depends on what you consider A and what you consider area, 150 is pretty big.
 
Perhaps we should define what an A player is for the purpose of this thread.

I'm not sure about my area, not many though. Definitely not in 100's.
 
Tom In Cincy said:
That about covers it Eric.

Pure concentration populations, figures... maybe 300-500 "A" players in the 150mile area of NYNY, PHilPA, NJ, Mass, CT and RI. Balt?

Are there really that many players that can make a living playing in turnaments and matching up?

Now there are probably 4000+ B+ players? who's main job is supporting the "A" players in tournaments and matching up?
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Tom,

You would certainly have to agree with Eric, based soley on population density. He would certainly have more "A" players then you could scrape up in the Bay Area. However when we look at the "A +" players, things may look better for the West coast. It would be a real battle if you took the best "A+" players vs. the East coast "A+" players. Don't forget Eric, the state of California is now the most populous state in the country. A good portion of your guy's have migrated to CA.(and who could blame them ?)

Dick
 
We did define what we thought were "A" players.

Mostly at the low end ShortStops, in the middle SemiPros and on the high end Pros. Mostly the short stops and SemiPros are the A players I am referring to.

Players that will travel more than 100 miles for a $500 added event that they expect to either win or cash HIGH.

Cameron Smith said:
Perhaps we should define what an A player is for the purpose of this thread.

I'm not sure about my area, not many though. Definitely not in 100's.
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Depends on your definition of "A". My definition of an "A" player is a guy who is capable of running any rack, in any game, and has above 10% runout, meaning he runs more than one game per/ten. In that definition, my area of 50 miles has roughly 5. 150 miles has 20 or so.
 
Depends On Are Size......

In My "small" Area, 30-40 Mile Radius, I'd Say There Are 7 Or 8. But I'm In A Rural Area. If We Go To 50-100 Miles, Than My Are Would Be Part Of The "philly" Area. With Alot More "a" Players.
 
SJDinPHX said:
Tom,

You would certainly have to agree with Eric, based soley on population density. He would certainly have more "A" players then you could scrape up in the Bay Area. However when we look at the "A +" players, things may look better for the West coast. It would be a real battle if you took the best "A+" players vs. the East coast "A+" players. Don't forget Eric, the state of California is now the most populous state in the country. A good portion of your guy's have migrated to CA.(and who could blame them ?)

Dick
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If it went by "state", then I would have to say you're right, Dick. California covers a lot of ground.

The thing with the 150 mile radius thing is that my 150 mile radius covers 25% of the entire country's population :wink:


Eric
 
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Right now in my little 7,000 person town we don't have any A players. I am hoping to get my game back and be the only one. My buddy over in another small mountain town is in the same position.

It's hard to elevate your game when nobody plays well.
 
Kind of like Eric noted, it varies. For Alaska (going with who is considered an A player) I would say 10-15. But out of those maybe only 3-4 would be considered to be an A player in say NYC.
Chuck
 
Houston is great for pool

CrownCityCorey said:
About 50-100. But they never do anything! :grin-square:
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What happened to L.A.? It used to be awesome for action 20 years ago. Nor Cal is the exact same way. I just moved back to Ca from the Houston area over the summer, I spent about 13 months in the Houston area. I went to the pool hall once in Houston and the place was incredible. The room was open 24/7 with great equipment and all I heard about was that there was nothing but action in that place. The day I went there I walked in with my cue and didn't even have both feet in the door and people were asking me if I wanted to play some. It reminded me of Hard Times back in the day. The only problem was that room was on the other side of the city that I lived on, so that room was about 55 miles from my house. It's hard enough being married with kids to get to the pool room these days, but 100 mile round trip made it impossible for me. I really wish that I lived closer to that room, it was a good one.
 
thebigdog said:
What happened to L.A.? It used to be awesome for action 20 years ago. Nor Cal is the exact same way. I just moved back to Ca from the Houston area over the summer, I spent about 13 months in the Houston area. I went to the pool hall once in Houston and the place was incredible. The room was open 24/7 with great equipment and all I heard about was that there was nothing but action in that place. The day I went there I walked in with my cue and didn't even have both feet in the door and people were asking me if I wanted to play some. It reminded me of Hard Times back in the day. The only problem was that room was on the other side of the city that I lived on, so that room was about 55 miles from my house. It's hard enough being married with kids to get to the pool room these days, but 100 mile round trip made it impossible for me. I really wish that I lived closer to that room, it was a good one.
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U talkin about bogeys?

and yeah houstons a good city for pool, Jeremy jones and charlie bryant are both there i heard rodney morris is livin there too but i dont know if its true. lots of action
 
Eric. said:
Depends on the definition of "area", Tom.

I think a 150 mile radius is too big. If I took, for example, Phila, PA as the center and drew a 150 mile radius, which would cover just about the entire state of NJ, NYC, Baltimore, most of MD, and D.C., as well as a good portion on PA and DE...I would put this "team" up against any other 150 mile radius in the country :grin:


Eric
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I'll put my area in there, I live dead in the center of FL(right in the middle of Tampa and Orlando), and 150 mile radius would cover alot of players!


Jeremy
 
TXsouthpaw said:
U talkin about bogeys?

and yeah houstons a good city for pool, Jeremy jones and charlie bryant are both there i heard rodney morris is livin there too but i dont know if its true. lots of action
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Yeah Bogeys, that's the place. I wished I lived closer to it when I was out there. I lived east of Houston in Mont Belvieu and there was nothing out there as far as pool rooms go. I heard Legends was a good room as well.
 
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