How many sets do you play if you are in a bad game, before you ask for an adjustment

Good post.

metmot said:
If I'm in over my head and it's cheap then BFD. I'll play until half my days wages are gone. As long as the other guy didn't make more than me today I'm fine. I'll do better than him economically tomorrow. There's always something to be learned playing better players. Lesser players, not so much. So if you want to improve it's gonna cost at times. I'm not saying be a chump but don't be afraid of some recreation. It kills me how people will sit and feed lottery machines with zero chance of winning yet won't play a set for $25 for fear of losing their manhood.

JC
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There are a lot of great answers being left in my thread. I like that very much. You are correct about the money they lose on the Poker machine and won't play a set for $25.00. Thanks a lot for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
So many good post. I thank ou.

Snapshot9 said:
and old school was you don't ask for a spot unless you have lost 3 sets or $500, whichever comes first. BUT, if I got beat bad for 2 sets, I would probably just quit, and consider myself lucky.

Although, it is the hustler's code to just beat them by enough to keep them playing, like 7-5 or 7-6. That way, they really can not ask for a spot, and they will keep playing. Another hustler's trick is to let them win the first set, and then turn it on. That way, they always think they can beat you because they did it once.
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Good idea on what to do.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
macguy said:
1. is relevant in that he is asking for a spot he does not need and if you just call it quits that is his problem. That was the point, you are not quitting winner or being a nit by no wanting to give up a spot, he doesn't need. The chances are if he has any game in him at all he will play, or he won't. Either way, who cares if he wants to leave his money on the table and not try to win it back or bust you for that matter, that is his problem.
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Now you are running with assumptions re: how good everybody plays.It doesn't really matter how good anyone plays when $ is the goal.

All we know is I am 2 sets winner and you;) want to adjust at this point.

If I choose to adjust, after you;) win those 2 sets back, you;) are gonna have to some re-adjusting...because the adjustment point you;) determined is 2 sets. And we hit it again.
 
Black-Balled said:
Now you are running with assumptions re: how good everybody plays.It doesn't really matter how good anyone plays when $ is the goal.

All we know is I am 2 sets winner and you;) want to adjust at this point.

If I choose to adjust, after you;) win those 2 sets back, you;) are gonna have to some re-adjusting...because the adjustment point you;) determined is 2 sets. And we hit it again.
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Your not following the thread. I said hypothetically after 2 hill hill sets there is no need for someone to be asking for a spot. In fact you may even be the underdog even though you are up 2 sets, who knows. If you say no to the spot it would not be unreasonable. Also, after two close sets, even though he took a shot at getting the spot he will still probably continue to play. If he does actually quit after losing two hill hill sets then so what, he either has no more money or no heart. Either way, you are done playing him at least for now.
 
Adjustment?

Lock N Load said:
Or quit? You are in a match where you are losing bad, and you need to adjust the game with weight for you or you quit. How long do you play before you ask for an adjustment?
Regards,
Lock N Load.
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I was always told that if you fall behind 3 sets, you usually have made a bad game. Time to quit or make an adjustment at that point.
 
cheeseroller said:
I was always told that if you fall behind 3 sets, you usually have made a bad game. Time to quit or make an adjustment at that point.
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I think there is no finite answer. Three sets is not a lot considering how fast sets go.. Also, are these long sets, for how much money, with whom, etc...?

All these things factor in.. The biggest thing is play when you feel comfortable and quit if you don't. That's all...

I have played all night sometimes, even on the losing end because I was having a good time and I was waiting for a momentum shift that wasn't coming quick enough.

If you can't afford to lose a lot, don't bet a lot... If you don't want to get stuck in games you don't know the line, don't play strangers.. Its not that hard.
 
Good input, Cheeseroller!

cheeseroller said:
I was always told that if you fall behind 3 sets, you usually have made a bad game. Time to quit or make an adjustment at that point.
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Sounds good to me. If you have lost 3 sets something needs to be done. Unless you are out of stroke or not getting any good shots.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
I usually make a game, then try to adjust again before we start.

If my opponent doesn't agree to adjust, I quit, call them a nit and run out the door shouting expletives.
 
ShootingArts said:
Sets? Whadda you mean sets? I start whining halfway through the first game I'm losing. Move into sniveling by the second game. By the third game I'm into full blown sharking, cursing, and kicking the table when I miss a shot. If somebody still wants to keep playing me after all of that I ask for the moon and two stars to play another set!
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Hey, I've played you before! ;)

The rest of that post was great advice.
 
think we all have

FreeShot said:
Hey, I've played you before! ;)

The rest of that post was great advice.
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Yeah, I think we have all played that guy or the guy from the "Walt Frazier" school of match making in J Learned Hand's post. ;)

Hu
 
cheeseroller said:
I was always told that if you fall behind 3 sets, you usually have made a bad game. Time to quit or make an adjustment at that point.
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Or you are throwing out some seed to up the bet later on. Or possibly setting up a bigger game with a different guy. :cool:

Or you are playing outside your comfort zone and fold like a cheap lawn chair. :thumbup:

Or you are just playing for fun because you have more important things to worry about. :rolleyes:
 
If a guy is up three games and started missing shots he is expected to make and leaving you hard shots, or shooting more banks, and your fourth game you got so close to beating him, it is a sign to lick you wounds and quit.
 
Good input, Naji.

naji said:
If a guy is up three games and started missing shots he is expected to make and leaving you hard shots, or shooting more banks, and your fourth game you got so close to beating him, it is a sign to lick you wounds and quit.
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Thank you.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Lock N Load said:
Or quit? You are in a match where you are losing bad, and you need to adjust the game with weight for you or you quit. How long do you play before you ask for an adjustment?
Regards,
Lock N Load.
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Life never has simple answers, the motivation from both parties is a concern in this incident:

It's almost like saying, when do you ask your boss for a raise. Remember, matching up is BUSINESS, if its something else, well then your most likely being taken advantage of. If your in business with a fair person and you can play again and again, the details can and should be worked out, if not, then you've got Bad Action, time to move on, unless you enjoy giving the farmer more of your milk, but your thread makes me think NOT.
 
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Not sure if this was posted, it all depends on what your playing for though, if its cheap like 10-20 a set or something and your within a ball of one another keep at it. If your playing for 50 on up then the game needs to be fair, then again its all relative to how much money you have in general, one guys cheap is not always the same as another guys cheap.

I played last night with a guy, he walked over to me and asked to play. I know I am a ball or so better, he was okay with playing even 9 ball for $10 a set racing to 6.... for the first set, then he asked for a spot in the 2nd. I won the set but giving a spot for $10 a set just is kind of crazy IMO but there was not much else going on and it was something to do.

I think next time I will give him a small spot and tell him win or lose that is how we play for the night and bump the bet a little bit, I know its tough times but cmon man! :p
 
Hello Island, what is wrong with my thread?

Island Drive said:
Life never has simple answers, the motivation from both parties is a concern in this incident:

It's almost like saying, when do you ask your boss for a raise. Remember, matching up is BUSINESS, if its something else, well then your most likely being taken advantage of. If your in business with a fair person and you can play again and again, the details can and should be worked out, if not, then you've got Bad Action, time to move on, unless you enjoy giving the farmer more of your milk, but your thread makes me think NOT.
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I think it is something to think about. Let me know? Thanks.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
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