How much chalk

[JazzyJeff87]

Yep. I told the manager of place i go that they could save money each month by putting up a couple posters showing how to chalk. 80% of the people in there use the drill-method.

It’s the damn design lol. A cube with an indent right in the center when they’re brand new. People see it and think “place tip here” then start drilling.

I prefer master chalk to predator but I love the way the predator 1080 is shaped. It lends itself to “brushing” chalk on right from the get, whereas with the master chalk you have to Train the cube by first wearing lines down each corner, then chalking with the little humps in between your lines. This takes a week or so until you finally have a slight bowl shape.

I guess you could just sand it flat or rub it on the asphalt when you first get it but I’m a cheap ass with some things.

When I played league I left a piece of 1080. Came back a week or two later and people had already drilled a giant hole in the center lol...so o guess the design itself isn’t the total problem.

 

[Bob Jewett]

... , whereas with the master chalk you have to Train the cube by first wearing lines down each corner, then chalking with the little humps in between your lines. ...

Well, no. You steal an old piece of chalk from the pool hall that the Borer Tribe has been abusing. It will have a nice edge ready for immediate use.:thumbup:

 

[MattPoland]

I like my chalk to be a shallow pyramid with groves at the corners. I wish they came that way from the start.

I saw a video where someone shows off boring the cube by rolling the cue with their foot as a way to impress others with your prowess. Then less than a week later I see someone do it at the bar. I was impressed all right.


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[KRJ]

I was just thinking of betting with Dr Dave

if he says there is no difference i am willing to bet with him

i suspect he has a way of testing clinically and the rest of us are kinda going from perceived results

I have only tried predator chalk a few times when some was left on the table

and i tend to hit several shots before chalking, I have never be fastideous about chalking

but I almost always chalk if i plan to hit draw

No worries Deano, you'd win that bet. He did test the chalks and one came out best. If one chalk sticks to the tip better, holds on longer, and can shoot dozens of shots without a miscue after one chalking, it proves one is the best. What chalk do you want to use, one that after you chalk there is no evidence you even chalked yet Here is the point, where is all that chalk going if it falls off the tip so fast? Yes, you're hands, the table, the cue ball, etc.

For the question, I only chalk before each game starts. That's it. No chalking during the game. Just go from shot to shot without distraction. Look at the shot, step into the shot, a few good practice strokes and shoot. For me, keeps it easy and clean

But, use whatever you like. But the loudest guy in this thread is the one who keeps saying there is no difference at all but is the guy who uses a premium chalk, which I find funny as heck.

Maybe its' time for another FREE chalk give away

 

[SonSpark]

Chalk talk

Ya, I use Kamuii at home but when I play out I use predator. Most pool halls don't like the mess of Kamuii, so Predator is my second favorite. Bars, not many even notice but if you put it down for even a minute, someone thinks it's bar chalk and maybe you never see it again. I have many cubes of different brands at home and these I offer to visiting players. They are also free to use my one piece of predator that I will leave out. It is drilled. Very few of them know how to properly apply chalk and around Christmas I had to tell someone to take it light on the chalk because it was all over my table.
As for the Kamuii, I clean my balls about once a week but it's worth it to me.

 

[Maniac]

I'm using Predator right now because someone gave me a sleeve of it. When it's gone, I will be going back to Master's blue.

I've seen SVB countless times using Master's chalk, and that's all I need to know.

Maniac

 

[Bavafongoul]

What I find humorous is all I did was speak the truth. Sorry if it hurts your feelings.
Was anything I posted re: Dr. Dave Alciatore’s evaluation of chalk inaccurate?
Did Dr. Dave disagree or even clarify anything in my post about his observations?

If you chalk you cue properly after every shot, there is no difference nor advantage.
I have several boxes of your Putin chalk and Blue Diamond performs just as good.
But neither chalk performs any different than any other brand chalk as per Dr. Dave.

Apply the chalk correctly after every shot, which again is a great habit or pre-shot routine.
When you do, neither the brand, nor origin, of the chalk seems to matter, as per Dr. Dave.
I bought a carton of BD 5 yrs ago for $75 on eBay. I still have more than 1/2 carton (14 boxes).

That $75 purchase will likely leave me with chalk for life, especially since I also have multiple boxes of
the Soviet chalk as well. If I ever run out, I might use any brand cuz chalk is chalk, except 4 cleanliness.
I guess I’m an old school pool player. I don’t play with LD shafts (orig maple only) & chalk after every shot.

Thanks to Dr. Dave for his impartial and scientifically objective approach which is a real blessing nowadays.

 

[dr_dave]

If you chalk you cue properly after every shot, there is no difference nor advantage. I have several boxes of your Putin chalk and Blue Diamond performs just as good. But neither chalk performs any different than any other brand chalk as per Dr. Dave.

... but if somebody forgets to chalk, or doesn't like to chalk before every shot, or doesn't chalk well at times, some of the chalks are better than others (because they stay effective on the tip longer). And some stick to the CB too much (which can cause more frequent and worse cling/skid/kick). And some make more mess than others. Other than that, the performance and miscue limit on a single shot with a well-chalked tip is indistinguishable among the chalks tested. Again, for those who want the whole story, all of the videos, articles, and info can be found here:

chalk comparison resource page

Regards,
Dave

 

[jrctherake]

... but if somebody forgets to chalk, or doesn't like to chalk before every shot, or doesn't chalk well at times, some of the chalks are better than others (because they stay effective on the tip longer). And some stick to the CB too much (which can cause more frequent and worse cling/skid/kick). And some make more mess than others. Other than that, the performance and miscue limit on a single shot with a well-chalked tip is indistinguishable among the chalks tested. Again, for those who want the whole story, all of the videos, articles, and info can be found here:

chalk comparison resource page

Regards,
Dave

Dr. Dave, if you could run 100+ balls in 14.1 and was not allowed to clean the cb or ob's after the opening break.....which chalk would you prefer to help keep skids etc...etc from happening?

I know which one I prefer and it's a different brand than I use for 9 ball and games like it where I can clean the cb between racks and even clean the ob's if necessary.

Jeff

 

[couldnthinkof01]

Jrc, if one brand works better to keep
the equipment clean why wouldn't you use
it for all games?
Just wondering.

 

[dr_dave]

Dr. Dave, if you could run 100+ balls in 14.1 and was not allowed to clean the cb or ob's after the opening break.....which chalk would you prefer to help keep skids etc...etc from happening?

i would use anything other then the “cosmetic grade chalks” that stick to the CB too much. I would probably just use Master, which is what I’ve always used.

Regards,
Dave

 

[mcjack]

I use NIR brand chalk. it’s wonderful! Costs about $12 for 3 cubes but I only have to chalk up about every 5th to 7th shot. And much less chalk dust spreading around.

 

[jrctherake]

Jrc, if one brand works better to keep
the equipment clean why wouldn't you use
it for all games?
Just wondering.

In my case, I've always used the cleanest chalk I could find for 14.1.

Using extremely clean chalk helps prevent some of the chances for errors that are made worse by dirty balls and felt. But, the trade off is I'm forced to chalk every shot.

BTW, chalking is not part of my PSR.....

Dirty balls (chalk dust) can and WILL lead to kicks (skids) on various shots that are brutal in 14.1. The chalk will transfer to the ob's as well and then to make matters worse, ....racks don't spread as well as they should and that can make runs that are deep VERY brutal.

Remember, most of ^^^^^^^^^ is more out to happen deep into runs where multiple racks have been run and the cb nor the ob's are not touched except when racking for long periodsof time. The longer the run, the more likely it is for chalk on the balls to be a problem....

Only people that have been there can really, really understand the need or should I say the FEAR of such occurrences.

Again, it's brutal.

For 9 ball and similar games, I don't worry about which brand chalk. I'm able to clean the cb at the beginning of every rack or every foul. So, I use chalks like masters if I don't mind chalking every shot or magic chalk if a had rather not chalk as often.

YMMV

Jeff

 

[jrctherake]

i would use anything other then the “cosmetic grade chalks” that stick to the CB too much. I would probably just use Master, which is what I’ve always used.

Regards,
Dave

Same here. I hate any chalk that sticks to everything.

I use masters chalk at times but, I don't like it for 14.1. To me, even masters chalk is to dirty for 14.1 when playing the 14.1 ghost.

If in a match, masters IMO is more than fine since the cb is usually picked up due to someone committing a foul at some point (chance to clean the cb)....not to mention, most matches only go to ~125...

You have to remember, lol.......I rarely run numbers big enough to matter so, when I am able to pull one off...I damn sure don't want a chalk smudge etc...etc to be the reason it ends.

Jeff

 

[Flintlock]

I use Kamuii. Definitely don't chalk on every shot. Just take a quick look at your tip and you'll know if you need it. Same with anything else.

 

[Muddog]

After trying several yesterday blue diamond or lava were fairly clean and I didn’t get cue marks so would be my choice in that kind of situation

Normal play I’m switching to silver cup National tournament chalk as it wasn’t much more than masters and less messy. Played with regular silver cup in the past never had an issue but a buck or two extra per dozen for less mess worth it for me. Can’t justify any more than that

 

[KRJ]

What I find humorous is all I did was speak the truth. Sorry if it hurts your feelings.
Was anything I posted re: Dr. Dave Alciatore’s evaluation of chalk inaccurate?
Did Dr. Dave disagree or even clarify anything in my post about his observations?

If you chalk you cue properly after every shot, there is no difference nor advantage.
I have several boxes of your Putin chalk and Blue Diamond performs just as good.
But neither chalk performs any different than any other brand chalk as per Dr. Dave.

.

Weird why you think I was talking about you? but BAM. I rest my case. LOL
Number one rated chalk in the world. And you'll put up your BD against MC? It performs just as good?

Yeah, you talk a good game.. probably just like your pool game, got the prettiest cues in town but can't run 3 balls lol


... but if somebody forgets to chalk, or doesn't like to chalk before every shot, or doesn't chalk well at times, some of the chalks are better than others (because they stay effective on the tip longer). And some stick to the CB too much (which can cause more frequent and worse cling/skid/kick). And some make more mess than others. Other than that, the performance and miscue limit on a single shot with a well-chalked tip is indistinguishable among the chalks tested. Again, for those who want the whole story, all of the videos, articles, and info can be found here:

chalk comparison resource page

Regards,
Dave

 

[garczar]

I have BD and Magic in my case. Like them both and in general use cannot tell any difference. I've never tried to shoot 15+ shots without chalking. What idiot would do that while actually playing? Both,to me anyway, are like Master blue just a lot less dusty/dirty. My take, nothin' else.

 

[KRJ]

I have BD and Magic in my case. Like them both and in general use cannot tell any difference. I've never tried to shoot 15+ shots without chalking. What idiot would do that while actually playing? Both,to me anyway, are like Master blue just a lot less dusty/dirty. My take, nothin' else.

I do it all the time. Chalk before the game and never chalk again. I've actually shot an entire league night with chalking once before the games began.

That's 6 games of 8 ball. Granted, I was a little nervous at the end of the last game, but it was league, so I fired away No problem.

It's pretty simple really, if chalk will stay on the tip for 50 shots, how good will it stay on if you chalk after each shot

Some folks chalk up every few shots, or only when they use draw. Those folks do care as well. But, like you said, the premium chalks are less messy too. And I do think BD chalk is a good chalk but I just like to give Beveargoul a little crap

Is it as good as MC. Of course not. If MC did not exist, I would probably use BD over the other brands out there. Trust me, I have every brand on the market in my basement for testing purposes as we speak, except Kamui. I don't want to bother with the mess even if it performs well, which I've heard it does.

 

[Maniac]

Some folks chalk up every few shots, or only when they use draw.

IMO, those same folks SHOULD be chalking up for high, left and right English shots also.

Off center is off center no matter how you cut and dice it.

Maniac