How Much To Recover GCIV With Simonis 860?

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DrCue'sProtege

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Ok, i am about ready to have my Gold Crown IV recovered. The cloth is 2.5 years old, starting to get worn and would be nice to have new Simonis 860 on the table as we approach the holidays and i have alot of time off.

Anyway, can someone tell me what i can expect as far as the price for this? assume the mechanics would have about a two hour drive to my place - four hours round trip.

DCP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Anyway, can someone tell me what i can expect as far as the price for this? assume the mechanics would have about a two hour drive to my place - four hours round trip.

DCP
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Call Jack Zimmerman 812-756-2899 and get a firm quote from a guy that knows what he's doing.
 
Jack is up in Indianapolis, if he'll make the drive...he gets my full blessings as a table technician....because I know what kind of work he does;):grin:

Glen
 
Steve Durrell from the Indy area is the guy that normally does it. he came highly recommended by Orner Billiards and by our very own Williebetmore.

never heard of Jack Zimmerman. can anybody give me some background on him?

also, anybody give me a ballpark price?

Mike
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Steve Durrell from the Indy area is the guy that normally does it. he came highly recommended by Orner Billiards and by our very own Williebetmore.

never heard of Jack Zimmerman. can anybody give me some background on him?

also, anybody give me a ballpark price?

Mike
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He's one of my personally trained table mechanics...that should say enough;) for prices...you'd have to call him for that answer.

Glen
 
I had mine done 2 years ago and it was $450.....I also had shims put in and I know the mechanic personally. We actually based the job on that number, and we traded his work for plumbing work from my biz.

I would think with travel and cloth included.....$450 to $650, depending on if your table needs any additional work.

nothing like a newly clothed table.....mmmmmm!
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Steve Durrell from the Indy area is the guy that normally does it. he came highly recommended by Orner Billiards and by our very own Williebetmore.

never heard of Jack Zimmerman. can anybody give me some background on him?

also, anybody give me a ballpark price?

Mike
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Jack is highly recommended by our very own RealKingCobra which should be enough said.
I worked with Jack at the RKC seminar and he struck me as a methodical perfectionist.
He has also taken the time to post pictures of his work so many of us can attest that he knows what he's doing.

FWIW there is a section of this forum called Talk to a Mechanic where you will find some of the top table guys
in the country and the recommended place to post table work questions. Someone interested in doing your job
will generally contact you to discuss and provide a firm quote. FTR there's more to a quality recovering job then just
slapping on new cloth (which is what a hack does on the cheap). I think the adage you get what you pay for applies here.

On a side note, if Steve Durrell is the guy "that normally does it" then you already have a price reference so I'm a
bit curious as to the purpose of this thread.
 
Gerry said:
I had mine done 2 years ago and it was $450.....I also had shims put in and I know the mechanic personally. We actually based the job on that number, and we traded his work for plumbing work from my biz.

I would think with travel and cloth included.....$450 to $650, depending on if your table needs any additional work.

nothing like a newly clothed table.....mmmmmm!
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Shims or subrail extensions?

I will never deal with a mechanic again that does "shims" for the pockets....Subrail extensions are the only way to go if you want the table to play correct...

There is also a bit more than just putting on rubber....the subrails should really be (at minimum) checked to make sure all of the proper demensions are consistent....The right way to go is to make sure that all the subrail demensions are "correct"

There are very few mechanics that actually no what those demensions are and how to make them right (if they are wrong)

I am 100% positive that the guy RKC is recommending knows all of this stuff above and knows how to "make it right":wink:

That is the guy I would go with If I was in your area....even if he was a little more expensive...In the long run it is worth it.
 
Donkey Puncher said:
Someone give this guy a BALLPARK damn. It's not like it would vary $200 or more
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Well...lets see here...first of all, I start at $300 labor + materials, but then if I run into things like cross threaded rail bolts, seams not flat, unlevel slates...or what ever...the labor goes up. Then if more work is requested like tighting the pockets...the price goes up...because I don't have a "what the public thinks" price listing;)...so as I already sugested...call the horses mouth if direct pricing is wanted...Call Jack directly...that's all the OP has to do;)

Glen
 
Whatever will you do when you recover a table and someone comes in and says you did it all wrong and fixes your mistakes? Surely you don't believe you are infallible?

NVMD I know you think that you don't make mistakes, you just correct others mistakes.




realkingcobra said:
Well...lets see here...first of all, I start at $300 labor + materials, but then if I run into things like cross threaded rail bolts, seams not flat, unlevel slates...or what ever...the labor goes up. Then if more work is requested like tighting the pockets...the price goes up...because I don't have a "what the public thinks" price listing;)...so as I already sugested...call the horses mouth if direct pricing is wanted...Call Jack directly...that's all the OP has to do;)

Glen
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my pricing is in line with Glens. $300 labor. plus travel. The pictures I've seen of Jack's work is impressive. Jack also uses the glue method which gets great action.
 
u12armresl said:
Whatever will you do when you recover a table and someone comes in and says you did it all wrong and fixes your mistakes? Surely you don't believe you are infallible?

NVMD I know you think that you don't make mistakes, you just correct others mistakes.
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hmmmm...here all along I thought I was a professional at what I do...but here's a thought...why don't YOU find that someone that has come behind me and fixed MY mistakes....for me...how's that? I don't do professional work some of the time...or even most of the time...I do it ALL the time! And whom ever I teach...knows that, and knows I expect the same of them...so, got a problem....call someone who cares!;)

Glen
 
u12armresl said:
Whatever will you do when you recover a table and someone comes in and says you did it all wrong and fixes your mistakes? Surely you don't believe you are infallible?

NVMD I know you think that you don't make mistakes, you just correct others mistakes.
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Aaaaah, yes he kind of does.

IMO, Ernesto and Oscar tables play the best.
 
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