How Times have Changed!

MrLucky

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Being that I am a bit older than the average poster here, I thought I might post on the way it was back in the day when I first started playing and how the game and the places it is played has changed.

Back in the '60s when I was first able to go to the Pool Room (in this case a little small wood dwelling in a place where i grew up in Amityville Long Island named "Brucie's" after the 70 year old owner Mr. Brewster! there were 3 ancient even for then tables! all 3 were Brunswicks and they were leather pocket with carved wood legs and sides kept immaculate by Brucie ! He racked each game for at the time 10 cent each rack and brushed the tables regularly the number 1 table (which was prohibited to us kids until we reached "Player" status) was brushed after each and every game !

On the 1st table there was the regulars! Guys named Jimmy the painter ! (he actually was a painter and always came in with his paint spattered white clothes) My uncle Cisero when he was in town! Big Preston, Lou also known as pretty boy Lou ! (at least until he was shot sneaking out of a married woman window!) :eek: etcetera!

I thanks to my uncles tutelage (and probably our relationship) was allowed on table 2 ! this table was for the regular players and was always clean and level but never had the cache of table 1 ! To play on table 1 was everyones incentive to get better but until Brucie decide it was to be you were on table 2 or god forbid table 3 (the rag was never as clean or as new as the others I now realize there was a reason for this!) this table was for the kids and bangers! On slow days or early in the day like when we got out of school if the place was slow Brucie would offer advice to us at least the ones he thought deserved it and would help us with stroke and english issues ! it was like class after school Brucies was always hot in the summer but in the winter it was kept toasty warm and comfortable since I suppose this was prime time on cold long island for Brucie's since it always was busy in the winter, so much so that at times usually Friday late afternoons and evenings it was almost impossible to get on a table since even table 3 was in demand !
:cool:

And Now.....

I play out of Mr. Cues here in Atlanta which has about 40+ tables and a bar and a good assortment of food....

(not like the ice cooler at Brucie's ! a little steel cased box that had an assortment of yoohoo sodas and nehi orange drinks etcetera! with a few bags of peanuts also available!

Mr. Cues now due to the Dekalb smoking ban "loopholes" no longer allows anyone under 18 to enter much less play so that smoking under Dekalb County laws still can be allowed!, a sad turn of events since now the kids have no organized place to play! Nor does it have the ever friendly and and instructive Mr. Brucie! What it does have is Air conditioning and heat in the winter that isn't dependent on the availability of cut wood for the heater with no thermostat other than Brucie piling on a fresh log when he decided it was needed ! Mr. Cues also has as house Pro Johnny Archer! as good and nice as Johnny is he will never be the same as Brucie!

We also have the APA which is great and does allow some of the comraderie ! but again it just isn't the same since the players are not from the same locales and only see each other on League night!

I love Mr Cues ! but I have to admit I really miss the close camaraderie, jokes and daily stories of the regulars of Brucies and the stern ever watchful eye and advice of Mr Brewster! Yes things have changed since then some for the better and some things not so better but any way this is my story of then and now!


Peace Phil AKA Mr Lucky

and may Mr Brewster always be remembered!:)
 
Nice story Phil. I lived on the Copiaque/Amityville border from 1969-1980. Where was this Brewters at? I played in Basil's (the barber shop on Main St) a few times but can't place where Brewter's was.

I mostly played in rooms in Massapequa, Freeport, and Valley Stream. In the mid to late seventies I had my own room in East Islip and played in Bayshore on my days off. Johnnyt
 
Hey Basil's was also my Uncles favorite spot ;-)

Johnnyt said:
Nice story Phil. I lived on the Copiaque/Amityville border from 1969-1980. Where was this Brewters at? I played in Basil's (the barber shop on Main St) a few times but can't place where Brewter's was.

I mostly played in rooms in Massapequa, Freeport, and Valley Stream. In the mid to late seventies I had my own room in East Islip and played in Bayshore on my days off. Johnnyt

Brucies was on Albany Ave across from Andersons bar ! near Curt's Barbershop if any of those spots are familiar ! I also went to Copaigue high for 2 years then we moved to Harrison Ave I ran track at Copaigue and Amityville high schools ! :)
 
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Johnnyt said:
Nice story Phil. I lived on the Copiaque/Amityville border from 1969-1980. Where was this Brewters at? I played in Basil's (the barber shop on Main St) a few times but can't place where Brewter's was.

I mostly played in rooms in Massapequa, Freeport, and Valley Stream. In the mid to late seventies I had my own room in East Islip and played in Bayshore on my days off. Johnnyt

:D I have to say I spent many a late night out with my uncle at Basils watching them play Straight Pool for huge amounts of money for those days ! in fact I got a lot of free haircuts from basil after Cis' would beat him! :p
 
MrLucky said:
Brucies was on Albany Ave across from Andersons bar ! near Curt's Barbershop if any of those spots are familiar ! I also went to Copaigue high for 2 years then we moved to Harrison Ave I ran track at Copaigue and Amityville high schools ! :)

The poolroom must have been gone by 1970 when I moved there. I'm sure I've been in Andersen's bar. I believe I hit all the bars on Long Island at least once:D . Thanks for the memories. Johnnyt
 
good story

MrLucky said:
Being that I am a bit older than the average poster here, I thought I might post on the way it was back in the day when I first started playing and how the game and the places it is played has changed.


I have found a few pretty decent places to play now but the places where I started play will always be missed. Just heard a rumor that one of my favorite old pool room owners is still alive and hanging out in a pool room sixty miles up the road. I'm going to go up there just for grins. It may seem funny but we won't play pool. We never have. He never hustled the kids or bangers that came in his place and by the time I possibly could have made a game interesting for him, we were friends. Much of what I had learned was from him anyway, given out a bit at a time over years. He hated lessons and wouldn't give them even had I wanted any, he felt people were trying to buy cheap what he had spent thousands of dollars and years learning.

There is a gorgeous place to play pool up the road in the same town my old friend is in. I went in and looked around once. The place was empty during the day and was clean, neat, bright, and new. I planned to go back and shoot but somehow I never have. Real pool halls were always old and somehow the place just didn't feel right.

Hu
 
Naw it was still there at least till around '72 or 73 !

Johnnyt said:
The poolroom must have been gone by 1970 when I moved there. I'm sure I've been in Andersen's bar. I believe I hit all the bars on Long Island at least once:D . Thanks for the memories. Johnnyt

I am not sure when Brucies Closed up but I graduated from Stony brook in '72 and he was there then it was in a one room building on the hill across from Anderson's just south of Sunrise highway :) actuall the last time i was in Amityville someone had cleaned up the building at least the outside I was inquiring about the tables I would love to buy one of them :p
 
MrLucky said:
I am not sure when Brucies Closed up but I graduated from Stony brook in '72 and he was there then it was in a one room building on the hill across from Anderson's just south of Sunrise highway :) actuall the last time i was in Amityville someone had cleaned up the building at least the outside I was inquiring about the tables I would love to buy one of them :p
Oh I remember now. I've played in there. Your uncle must have played a good game. Basil was a good 14.1 player. Although he was getting old around that time. I beat Basil for the money in 9-ball but he almost always won at 14.1
Do you remember if Basil had a daugther that played pool very well?
 
ShootingArts said:
There is a gorgeous place to play pool up the road in the same town my old friend is in. I went in and looked around once. The place was empty during the day and was clean, neat, bright, and new. I planned to go back and shoot but somehow I never have. Real pool halls were always old and somehow the place just didn't feel right.

Hu
Hu, are you talking about Baton Rouge? I'm wondering if Bayou Billiards has reopened yet after their remodel?

Yeah, the old rooms are hard to find anymore. They were the best-- all pool, no distractions. Hell, I never even saw a woman in a poolroom until 1967!

Doc
 
The room I had on Long Island was shaped like the inside of a box car. It had 8 tables, 7 9' for pool and 1 10' for billiards. No games or booze, just pool. A few women started coming in just before I sold it. Hell there were even brass spit-toons by each table when we bought it. The big game was Money Ball and 14.1. Johnnyt
 
Never brought a girl to my poolroom

gulfportdoc said:
Hu, are you talking about Baton Rouge? I'm wondering if Bayou Billiards has reopened yet after their remodel?

Yeah, the old rooms are hard to find anymore. They were the best-- all pool, no distractions. Hell, I never even saw a woman in a poolroom until 1967!

Doc

I don't know about Bayou. That is where I heard Jessie is spending some time and I will slide in through there soon to see if it has reopened. The new place is I think called Ricochet's, it is on Sherwood Forest. I say "new" too, relatively speaking. It seems new to me. It may be a great place or terrible, I haven't really given it a chance.

Real poolrooms always have a "feel". You walk into a church, you walked into an old movie theater, you walk into an old pool room, they all have a different but special atmosphere. I think I could recognize those places blindfolded even had I not been in that particular one before. When I traveled working I could step into a pool hall almost anywhere and I was home. I knew it and the funny thing was that everyone else there knew it too. I was never a stranger in an old pool hall.

I played out of Shoppers Pool Hall for about ten years, never considered bringing a girl in there. Greenway was different back then, it was the place with a lot of bangers as well as the hardcore players. It was fairly new and seemed more like a bowling alley than a pool hall. I did bring a few girls in there in the evenings since that was common. I also brought friends that were bangers into Greenway and banged with the best of them.

Years later someone from Greenway started steering road players and such to a bar over my way where I hung out early and late. I never did figure out if they were trying to do me a favor or take me down. Didn't matter, I played a lot of snooker back then and I was tough to beat on my "home" eight foot bar tables with bucket pockets and a few quirks. I got a lot of lucky rolls.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
Years later someone from Greenway started steering road players and such to a bar over my way where I hung out early and late.
Hu

Lambert dunit.
 
Great story, evolution is an interesting thing, I've only been around since 85 and alot has changed, I remember the old time clocks in a couple rooms, a few tables with leather pockets and wooden ball returns, inlays on the legs. more action. thanks for the story
 
I enjoyed your trip down memory lane. :)

I started playing at Teasdale's Billiard Academy in Dover, NJ when I was 12. The place was commonly known as Tizzy's or Teasdale's. I would be there waiting for him to arrive every day at 6:30 PM. I'd help him fold the covers (he brushed and covered all the 10 or 12 tables each night before he left) and for that he would give me a free half hour of table time every day.

One day, about 3 years into the arrangement, someone wanted to play so I stopped my free practice after 15 minutes. To make up for it, next day, I figured I'd add an extra fifteen minutes onto my half hour. When I brought the balls up to Tizzie, he snarled "Don't think I wasn't f'in' watchin' the time you miserable ___sucker!" It blew my mind. I told him to f himself, walked out and didn't return for more than a year. Of course, when I did go back I couldn't shoot a lick.

I think the saying that sums up the whole deal has something to do with cutting off your nose to spite your face. :o
 
Thanks Ace...

acedotcom said:
I enjoyed your trip down memory lane. :)

I started playing at Teasdale's Billiard Academy in Dover, NJ when I was 12. The place was commonly known as Tizzy's or Teasdale's. I would be there waiting for him to arrive every day at 6:30 PM. I'd help him fold the covers (he brushed and covered all the 10 or 12 tables each night before he left) and for that he would give me a free half hour of table time every day.

One day, about 3 years into the arrangement, someone wanted to play so I stopped my free practice after 15 minutes. To make up for it, next day, I figured I'd add an extra fifteen minutes onto my half hour. When I brought the balls up to Tizzie, he snarled "Don't think I wasn't f'in' watchin' the time you miserable ___sucker!" It blew my mind. I told him to f himself, walked out and didn't return for more than a year. Of course, when I did go back I couldn't shoot a lick.

I think the saying that sums up the whole deal has something to do with cutting off your nose to spite your face. :o

For some reason I woke up this morning thinking about Brucies and all the folks I remembered from there! :)
 
Where was it?

Johnnyt said:
The room I had on Long Island was shaped like the inside of a box car. It had 8 tables, 7 9' for pool and 1 10' for billiards. No games or booze, just pool. A few women started coming in just before I sold it. Hell there were even brass spit-toons by each table when we bought it. The big game was Money Ball and 14.1. Johnnyt

My Uncle was Cisero Murphy He pretty much owned Basil but they were like two old bulls when they met neither one would give an inch! LOL! I had met through him and basil all sorts of old legends but I was 9 - 10 years old when he used to take me there I did not realize how fortunate I was to have been in the presence of such great players and truly Great Men. :(
 
MrLucky said:
My Uncle was Cisero Murphy He pretty much owned Basil but they were like two old bulls when they met neither one would give an inch! LOL! I had met through him and basil all sorts of old legends but I was 9 - 10 years old when he used to take me there I did not realize how fortunate I was to have been in the presence of such great players and truly Great Men. :(

Wow Cisero Murphy was your uncle. That explains him beating Basil. I never realized Cisero came from our area. Johnnyt
 
Mr. Lucky, thank you for such a wonderful post. I love reading stuff like that. Pool in the USA may be new to me but the history of it fascinates me.

As for your age, I hit the big 40 last year & now I refuse to look at people as "older." Wiser, without a doubt but never old.

All the very best to you, sir.
 
He lived in brooklyn...

Johnnyt said:
Wow Cisero Murphy was your uncle. That explains him beating Basil. I never realized Cisero came from our area. Johnnyt

came to Amityville to see me and get his game on at either Brucies or Basils! I don't know if you knew this but Basil was much more than a Barber that had a pool room he was a European Straight and Billiards Champion prior to emigrating to the U.s in the '40s We were lucky in Amityville to have him settle there! :)
 
Thanks ;-)

chilli66 said:
Mr. Lucky, thank you for such a wonderful post. I love reading stuff like that. Pool in the USA may be new to me but the history of it fascinates me.

As for your age, I hit the big 40 last year & now I refuse to look at people as "older." Wiser, without a doubt but never old.

All the very best to you, sir.
:) I know this is not the normal AZ Post but people have always told me I should write about and share my experiences, now that I am semi- retired I have been, when inspired putting some of these things down on paper. Growing up during the time I did brings so many rich thoughts and fond memories of how people and things were back then that at times now when I read the papers and travel around I really wish I was back then :( So anyuway I'm glad you enjoyed it Peace Phil / MrLucky
 
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