How to get out from here II.
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It's a jump shot Neil.Pocket the 1 in the lower right corner using an elevated stroke.The cueball jumps between and over the 4 and 8 proceeding down table.
I would try something like this...Neil said:O.K. The last diagram didn't convey what I was trying to convey well enough. So, how do you get on the 2 from here? Southpaw, patrick, any ideas??
Neil said:The question was 'How do you get on the 2 from here?" Safety won't get you there. If you play safe, you can't get on it 'from here'.
Sorry, I guess I just look at the best way to win the game. Taking low percentage flyers just isnt my style..... Guess thats why I am just a D+ player.
Southpaw
you get out from there after you play safe and take ball in hand.
RunoutalloverU said:
I am going to help Neil out here...since you guys are beating him up a bit.
Say you playing the ghost (no BIH) race to 10 for $500.... Yes...you are that good to be playing the ghost race to 10 for $500 with NO BIH after the break...
OR... For those that are not quite that good...(nobody on this forum of course)....What would you do in a ring game?
How would you attempt the out?...You may need to get creative...
If Neil can't even think up an imaginary situation where shooting-while-jumping is better than playing a simple safety, what's the point of the shot?
pj
chgo
Neil said:O.K. The last diagram didn't convey what I was trying to convey well enough. So, how do you get on the 2 from here? Southpaw, patrick, any ideas??
You don't.
You play safe, leave him an impossible kick, as he will be frozen to the side of the 4. Any shot that gets you to the two holds the possibility of jawing, and you have to hit with quite a bit of force.
Edited: Okay, in the case of a ring game, I would shoot the jump shot, and hope I was shooting on a bar table with buckets for pockets..
Russ
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Russ Chewning said:You don't.
You play safe, leave him an impossible kick, as he will be frozen to the side of the 4. Any shot that gets you to the two holds the possibility of jawing, and you have to hit with quite a bit of force.
If any of you wish to take a stab at at a little wager.. You get 10 times to try to run out from here, and I get 10 tries to win the game after a safe.
Any takers?
Russ
Hmmm....Have to run out vs. have to win....Hmmm...Why not have to win vs. have to win?
Not mentioned yet, I think, is the plain follow shot. You have to play it with enough follow to keep following after it hits the 8 and/or 4. Straight pool players know this stroke for break shots. A little hop will probably help.Neil said:O.K. The last diagram didn't convey what I was trying to convey well enough. So, how do you get on the 2 from here? Southpaw, patrick, any ideas??
For those of you who suggest safety, don't you understand that this could be the situation that you will might be in in a ring-game, where safeties aren't allowed? 
OK, OK... So how much time do you intend to devote to practicing this shot so you'll be ready when those real-life situations pop up?
No offense to Neil, I would have enjoyed seeing that shot. It's just not one I'd consider useful enough to learn.
pj
chgo
Patrick Johnson said:
I find it kind of "shockingly" strange that you would take that stance...I know you have some knowledge of this game under your belt...That is why I find it strange that you would quickly dismiss this shot as little more than a gaff shot of sorts.
What about the jump shot, or the rail assisted jump shot?
They may not come up a high percentage of time (if even at all) during a stretch of games...but they are nice to know when they are needed.
Perhaps not this specific rack, but there are other examples of a ball assisted jump shot where it would be the proper play. I only listed those two examples for this particular thread becuase people were nit picking the fact that normally the safe is the correct shot...which it is and Neil even knows that...The whole "intent" of the thread was to identify the particular shot...not necessarily what is the "best" shot at that particular moment....Sure the thread said How would you get out here...but I think if you read between the lines...(I can tell from your other posts you are smart enought to do this) I think you would see the intent of the origonal post...
As far as the specific shot is converned and the value to devote a few minutes to learn....(for a lifetime of use)...If it is valuable enough for Kim Davenport to devote time to teach the shot via video....I think its a valuable enough shot to spend a few minutes to learn and store away in a shot arsenal...
Pace out