How to get out from here II.

I belive you can draw out to the center of the table from there ,not an easy shot on the 2 most likely but you will certainly have an angle to get on the 3,thats if you have to shoot,if not then im locking the guy up on the 4 ball. :)
 
Bob Jewett said:
Not mentioned yet, I think, is the plain follow shot. You have to play it with enough follow to keep following after it hits the 8 and/or 4. Straight pool players know this stroke for break shots. A little hop will probably help.

Bob's idea was my first thought on this shot. 1 ball corner pocket with power follow.
 
Neil said:
Let's see...hmmm....where could this type of shot be used??? Gee, Russ. Didn't you use the same shot in post 9 of "The best shot you ever made"? Playing 8-ball for $60 a rack?? :rolleyes:

Yes, I did....

A. Shooting against a weaker opponent

B. Who was already down $120

C. And there was little realistic chance of him getting out even if I missed.

In this thread, I was mainly commenting that nowhere outside of a ring game or prop bet would I shoot this shot, risking jawing it with a wide open table.

Now, if there was a tough cluster somewhere on the table? Yes.. I would possibly shoot it, and it is not an automatic loss if I miss. :D

These sorts of things are just like poker.. HIGHLY dependent on the situation...

Russ
 
Me:
No offense to Neil, I would have enjoyed seeing that shot. It's just not one I'd consider useful enough to learn.

BRKNRUN:
I find it kind of "shockingly" strange that you would take that stance...I know you have some knowledge of this game under your belt...That is why I find it strange that you would quickly dismiss this shot as little more than a gaff shot of sorts.

What about the jump shot, or the rail assisted jump shot?

If you're asking whether these are useful enough to spend time learning: Jump shot yes. Rail assisted jump shot no.

... they are nice to know when they are needed.

I've never needed to know a rail assisted jump shot.

Perhaps not this specific rack, but there are other examples of a ball assisted jump shot where it would be the proper play.

Show me one.

Sure the thread said How would you get out here...but I think if you read between the lines...(I can tell from your other posts you are smart enought to do this) I think you would see the intent of the origonal post...

If the intent was to show an entertaining shot, it worked - I was entertained. In fact, I've posted similar shots for that pupose.

If it was to show a shot that I might want to use some time in a real game that I wanted to win, it didn't work for me. If it does for you I'm glad.

By the way, here's the reason I don't see the utility of the shot: it's too chancy even with practice. How much do you think your percentage goes down for a given shot when you have to jump the CB into the OB at an angle (you know the aim changes depending on how high the CB is when it hits the OB, right)? What do you suppose the odds are of making the 1 and hitting the 2 in the first example (you know the carom angle changes with the height of the CB, right)? I don't mean after trying it several times - I mean cold out of the gate in a game situation.

I'm glad you like it; so do I. But I've got more productive things to practice.

pj
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I agree with Patrick on the idea of not practicing these one off shots. It's just not worth the time, for the most part.

The ball assisted jump shot I made in the money game was never practiced. For me, the IDEA of the shot was enough. You pick opportunities where you stand little chance to LOSE, and every chance to win...Or simply where you are forced to shoot some wacky shot, as in a ring game, etc..

Russ
 
It's hard to tell if the cueball can get inbetween the 8 and 4 but if I had to get on the 2 no matter what I would use a force follow stroke, and atleast try to use the right side of the 8 as a rail and just get the cueball down into that area, maybe even get it inbetween the 9 and 6 ball.

If the cueball can get inbetween the 8 and 4 I would use a tip above centre and use a stun follow and make suring to hit the side rail with inside english, but that might not even be required.

If cueball can't go inbetween them, and you have a good stroke just try to draw it with maybe alittle right hand english (might not even be required hard to tell).
 
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I have to be honest here, if you shot this shot against me I would immediately think....I have found a sucker and I would ask you to raise the bet.

Southpaw
 
Southpaw said:
I have to be honest here, if you shot this shot against me I would immediately think....I have found a sucker and I would ask you to raise the bet.

Southpaw

And if you had played a safe on me while playing ring-game I would take the cue and knock it in your head :eek: :cool:
 
Roy Steffensen said:
And if you had played a safe on me while playing ring-game I would take the cue and knock it in your head :eek: :cool:

Ring game???? Who said anything about a ring game???? I guess you're just trying to justify shooting a stupid shot.

Southpaw
 
Southpaw said:
Ring game???? Who said anything about a ring game???? I guess you're just trying to justify shooting a stupid shot.

Southpaw

The thread clearly says: "How to get out from here"

It doesn't ask for how to best win the rack. It ask for creative shots.

I would also play a safety in a match, but when asked hot to get out from that position, I would try to contribute by giving a route for exactly that... If you can't do that, well, then find another thread to post in...

(I said I would normally play a safety in a match, but on second thoughts, maybe I would do a "sucker-shot" when playing you, so you wanted to raise the bet) :D
 
Roy Steffensen said:
The thread clearly says: "How to get out from here"

It doesn't ask for how to best win the rack. It ask for creative shots.

I would also play a safety in a match, but when asked hot to get out from that position, I would try to contribute by giving a route for exactly that... If you can't do that, well, then find another thread to post in...

(I said I would normally play a safety in a match, but on second thoughts, maybe I would do a "sucker-shot" when playing you, so you wanted to raise the bet) :D

Godspeed fly-guy.

Southpaw
 
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