No chance we are arguing over the same thing. What I've been arguing is that what he was repeatedly saying, as said, was dumb and wrong, and if he really meant what he was saying exactly as he said it then it was a case of complete idiocy of belief, and if he actually meant something else other than what he was saying and just never realized it or couldn't or wouldn't communicate it even after all the prodding, then it was complete idiocy of comprehension and communication. Yes, as I've also intimated all along we don't have total certainly yet on which of the two was the case (which is a problem he caused and isn't smart enough to realize and clear up so either way his comprehension and communication has been a huge issue in any case which has been my point), but there is complete certainly that his absolute prolonged stupidity is the problem in either case.