How would you play this?
- Thread starter Neil
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i'd shoot the 2 and try to draw the CB to try to break up the 1-10
generally I am not trying to get out from there on a diamond, I would likely do this and hope my opponent tries to go offense.
I would play the 2 ball with low right for CB position on the long rail by the 2nd diamond since the 1 ball passes in the opposite corner. I wouldn't try and break up the 1/10 cluster. This way I can play for the 3 in the side to try and clear the 8 ball out of the way for the 5 ball. It would be an easy run-out from there and if I don't make shape for the 1 ball, then the 8 ball stays in the track with 5 ball as a blocker for the incoming player. That's the way I would try to play it.
Make his 10-ball and roll the cue ball forward to the foot rail.
On your next turn, you may be able to try a runout, but it's too early now. I will use the 3 to break out the 8-ball later. I can get on the 3-ball using the 2 or the 4, but it's too early for that now. You must deal with the 10-ball first.
On your next turn, you may be able to try a runout, but it's too early now. I will use the 3 to break out the 8-ball later. I can get on the 3-ball using the 2 or the 4, but it's too early for that now. You must deal with the 10-ball first.
2 to the 1 ball lower left corner if I get there or break the cluster fine if I don't play safe next shot
I must be nuts, because i would hit the 5 such that I leave the cue on the rail near the 8 and get the 5 just clear of the 8. I say this because, technically it is the only ball tied up.
To me, the table is possible to run out, but not probable. In an aggressive mode I shoot the 2 and play to put the cue on the rail for the 1 ball opposite corner. Then you are in a position to play 3 in the side, if it goes, or 4 and get position for 3 in the corner. Failing to get position on the 1, you can play the cue into the 5 aand have a decent safe opportunity on the next shot.
To me, the table is possible to run out, but not probable. In an aggressive mode I shoot the 2 and play to put the cue on the rail for the 1 ball opposite corner. Then you are in a position to play 3 in the side, if it goes, or 4 and get position for 3 in the corner. Failing to get position on the 1, you can play the cue into the 5 aand have a decent safe opportunity on the next shot.
If I am playing good and feeling aggressive, I would play the 2 in the corner and come back down for the 1 in the opposite corner. After that, the 5 goes in the side. 4 in the corner, 3, 8.
Otherwise..........
I like this shot. Shoot the 1 into the 10 ball. You have a slight angle on the combo so you can bring the CB over to approx the middle diamond on the short rail. You want to get your opponent to try to shoot at the 15 ball in order to clear it out of this section so you do not have a interference ball on your solids (5, 3) when you make the 1.
Shooting the 2 up to the 11 only gives you another problem ball to contend with.
The 5 does not have to be broke out. It goes in the side and also acts as a blocker for the 8. The 3 is in a good position to block the 8 bank cross side.
This is a wait game. You have the advantage. Take it slow.
Otherwise..........
I like this shot. Shoot the 1 into the 10 ball. You have a slight angle on the combo so you can bring the CB over to approx the middle diamond on the short rail. You want to get your opponent to try to shoot at the 15 ball in order to clear it out of this section so you do not have a interference ball on your solids (5, 3) when you make the 1.
Shooting the 2 up to the 11 only gives you another problem ball to contend with.
The 5 does not have to be broke out. It goes in the side and also acts as a blocker for the 8. The 3 is in a good position to block the 8 bank cross side.
This is a wait game. You have the advantage. Take it slow.
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I agree with TX Poolnut
Plan
I hate to disagree guys, but there is too much angle on the 4 to be able to hold the cue ball for the 1. Even if you did it would be high on the 1, which is not a good angle for the rest of the runout.
I would shoot the 2, come across to get shape on the 1 in the lower left corner, go forward with the cue to get on the 5 in the side. Go above the 3 to shoot the 3 in the lower left hand corner. Then shoot the 4, and get shape for the 8 in the lower left corner.
I hate to disagree guys, but there is too much angle on the 4 to be able to hold the cue ball for the 1. Even if you did it would be high on the 1, which is not a good angle for the rest of the runout.
I would shoot the 2, come across to get shape on the 1 in the lower left corner, go forward with the cue to get on the 5 in the side. Go above the 3 to shoot the 3 in the lower left hand corner. Then shoot the 4, and get shape for the 8 in the lower left corner.
Tap, Tap, Tap. I think Neil also realized the angle on the 4. That is why he shot the 2 first.
It is too sharp to get to the proper angle necessary to arrive at the 1 for a good shot.
I'd play the 2 and try to get shape on the 1 not break it up.
Playing the combo to drop the 10 isn't bad but the way I see it, it's not a sure loss if I try to get inside shape on the 1 and fail (the 3 and 5 tie up the 8 reasonably well). So playing for the out has more upside than downside. In fact, if you're playing someone good enough that you basically assume they'd get out with an open shot then the pocket-the-10 safety probably isn't going to help you anyway so you may as well play for the run out.
Also, the shape zone for the 1 (when you shoot the 2) is larger than it looks since you have shape coming into the rail and out. And you could get a lucky breakout if you go either a little wide or too hard when trying to get inside shape on the 1.
Cory
Also, the shape zone for the 1 (when you shoot the 2) is larger than it looks since you have shape coming into the rail and out. And you could get a lucky breakout if you go either a little wide or too hard when trying to get inside shape on the 1.
Cory
I think I'd try to hit the 1 from the 4 if the angle is right. Hitting the 1 will probably leave you shape on it and if not the 2 is there and the 8 is sorta tied up. The only really bad thing that can happen is going off the 10 and scratching. Because of that, I'd play to hit it the cluster on the high side and if I happen to miss it, just play a safe.
1. cut the 4ball with draw to bring the CB between the 1ball and the top rail.
2. Shoot the 1ball in the lower-left corner. Use either follow or draw with some spin, dependes on the position for the one in order to get around the top of the triangle drawn on the table.
3. Shoot the 3ball in the bottom-side pocket. depending on your angle on it either position to bank the the 5ball or follow to get the 5ball to a better position.
4. if you bank the 5ball then shoot the 2ball in the bottom-right corner and the 8ball in the bottom-left corner.
5. if you follow on the 3ball then it depends on the position of the CB and the 5ball if you're going to shoot the 5ball first (and where) or shoot the 2ball first and then the 5ball and 8ball.
I'm not thrilled about trying to draw off of the 2 or 4 to get shape on the 1, so think I would approach this one a bit differently.
Aaron
Aaron